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    Default What kind of deal are we looking for by the trade deadline?

    Do you think that we are going to try to acquire more picks, a backup center, a scorer, a guy like Kaman or Camby, or who?

    Most importantly, are there any potential 'fleecing' deals where we could take advantage of a situation to get assets?

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    Although we are doing great at present, we still probably need someone who can get his own shot, and probably another back up big.

    If our salary cap would help other teams make a trade, I would be interested in facilatating it if we could pick up either of the above players, picks, or a young player with potential.

    The thing is, with the way the team is playing now, I wouldn't trade anyone unless it was a no brainer. Certainly not one of our starters.

    I think the front office will look at everything, and what they do will depend on what is out there.

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    Yeah, I guess we'd be looking for trades where we give up cap space and at most future picks. I don't think we'll give up a rotation player at this point.

    The Kaman trade could be a nice opportunity. NOH doesn't want salary back, so we can act as the third team here, picking up an asset or 2 in the process.

    Always worth looking at the luxury tax players, since one of them may want to shed a player to save $$$. I'm looking at Boston specially - their record is not great, so their owner may be inclined to save on some luxury tax. Spurs also a possibility, as they've been known to make luxury tax trades even when winning. They didn't pick up the 3rd year option of young swingman James Anderson, so they may be preparing to trade him. Portland could be interesting because of the Pritchard connection; some of his last picks there (Babbitt, Johnson) aren't getting much playing time.

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    They didn't pick up the 3rd year option of young swingman James Anderson,
    That's interesting. I looked at Hoops for info on rookie contract players who weren't given extensions but couldn't find a list. Other than Thabeet, T'Will, and Flynn, I wonder who else wasn't?

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    Yeah, I guess we'd be looking for trades where we give up cap space and at most future picks. I don't think we'll give up a rotation player at this point.

    The Kaman trade could be a nice opportunity. NOH doesn't want salary back, so we can act as the third team here, picking up an asset or 2 in the process.

    Always worth looking at the luxury tax players, since one of them may want to shed a player to save $$$. I'm looking at Boston specially - their record is not great, so their owner may be inclined to save on some luxury tax. Spurs also a possibility, as they've been known to make luxury tax trades even when winning. They didn't pick up the 3rd year option of young swingman James Anderson, so they may be preparing to trade him. Portland could be interesting because of the Pritchard connection; some of his last picks there (Babbitt, Johnson) aren't getting much playing time.
    Maybe Hinrich from the Hawks? ( $8.1mil as a 2011-2012 Expiring? ) or maybe Brandon Bass ( $4.25 mil in 2011-2012 / $4.25 mil Team Option in 2012-2013 ) with the Celtics? Maybe make a run at JuJuan Johnson along with JONeal? Neither of these Players would adversely affect the 2012-2013 salarycap....and could be short term impact Players. I know that many have their hopes on JONeal....but the guy is as healthy as Foster is....which is to say that he isn't healthy at all.

    As for Babbitt and Armon Johnson with the Blazers.....according to Hoopsworld....the Blazers SalaryCap is at $65 mil. I don't mind building assets....but we only have 2 spots left...I wouldn't mind taking them on as an asset...but they would be the "if all else fails" options.

    I posted this before. Below are the Teams that are over the LT ( tx to xbulletproof for pointing out that the LT is roughly $70 mil ) that have 2011-2012 Salary that are over $70 mil.

    These Teams may be interested in shedding salary.

    Lakers - $88 mil
    Celtics - $77 mil
    Miami - $76 mil
    Spurs - $74 mil
    Mavs - $74 mil
    Hawks - $72 mil
    Grizzlies - $71 mil

    Any other Team not included in the above lists have roughly $57 to $69 mil in Salary for the 2011-2012 season.

    The Pacers have a $43 mil Salary Cap in 2011 and $36 mil in 2012. The following Teams are the only Teams that have any Capspace in 2011 to make absorb a contract without sending anything back ( basically the only Teams that we will be competing against to receive assets back without sending something back ):

    Cavs $51 mil
    Kings $50 mil
    Raptors $53 mil

    Of the Teams that are above the Luxury Tax......what realistic options could we get at the cost of a 2nd round pick in the year 3000 and a TPE that would help us get to that next level?
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    I dunno about Bass. More like a PF then a C or CF which is where we seem to need more help. OTOH I'm intrigued to see what Pendergraph can bring aswell. I think Wintermute's suggestion of Luke Babbitt. I wonder what's happenned to him in Portland? Are they this deep or is he indeed as bad or does he need a chance to prove what he can do?
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    I'm guessing that if Bird can't find some kind of homerun deal (DWill, EJ, etc), we'll just stick with what we've got and look to add via free agency in the off-season. This team is performing quite well and has a chance to beat anyone on any given night. So, if there is no trade available that would be an obvious no-brainer, I doubt we do anything.
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    I dunno about Bass. More like a PF then a C or CF which is where we seem to need more help. OTOH I'm intrigued to see what Pendergraph can bring aswell. I think Wintermute's suggestion of Luke Babbitt. I wonder what's happenned to him in Portland? Are they this deep or is he indeed as bad or does he need a chance to prove what he can do?
    Bass is a much better Backup Center option than West is and certain is a far better option on the offensive end than both Foster and Amundson is. Keep in mind, we are talking of a Frontcourt Player that can hold down the Backup Center spot for 15 mpg. I'd rather have him over JONeal simply because he's more healthy. As mentioned, the only way that I'd take on JONeal is if the Celtics attach JuJuan Johnson to the deal.
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    Can Stanko come over before the playoffs start? When does his Euro season end? I think his skills make him an ideal backup to Roy.

    I'd look at the China free agents instead of trading for a wing. See if we could pick up someone just to finish out the season.

    And as far as salary dumps are concerned, I might consider taking a contract in exchange for flipping first round picks. See if we could potentially move up 10 spots or so. That might be easier than getting someone to give up a #1 outright in such a deep draft.

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    If we land Wilson Chandler we could do some serious damage..


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    Bass is a much better Backup Center option than West is and certain is a far better option on the offensive end than both Foster and Amundson is. Keep in mind, we are talking of a Frontcourt Player that can hold down the Backup Center spot for 15 mpg.
    Sure Bass is a better backup center then West, but it's still not his natural position. I want a backup who actually has the Center spot as his first spot and possibly PF second.
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    This trade deadline is the last chance the Pacers have to make a deal happen if they are looking to hit a homerun, I could be wrong but I don't think they would have cap space in few years after re-signing Roy and the other guys?

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    I think that's correct, vnzla.
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    I'm guessing that if Bird can't find some kind of homerun deal (DWill, EJ, etc), we'll just stick with what we've got and look to add via free agency in the off-season. This team is performing quite well and has a chance to beat anyone on any given night. So, if there is no trade available that would be an obvious no-brainer, I doubt we do anything.
    Keep in mind, there's a difference between "fixing what isn't broken" and "improving and building upon an existing foundation that is already strong".

    I would love to hit a homerun ( which IMHO would be getting an impact Player to help fill out the Wing and Frontcourt rotation without giving up any part of the "Starting 7" that does not adversely affect the Salary Cap beyond the 2012-2013 season ) but would settle for a "single or double" if it did not cost any of the "Starting 7" that would not affect the 2012-2013 SalaryCap and could help us make a deeper run into the Playoffs....IF no opportunities present themselves.

    For example, if the Pacers could get a Player like Mayo ( as a rental and possible "addition" to the future core ) or Hinrich ( an expiring Contract that would help solidfy the Wing rotation without impacting the 2012-2013 season ), I would consider that to be a "single or a double" that could help us this season.

    The roster as it stands now is solid....and IMHO would get us to the 1st round....the question as to how far we get is dependant on whether the roster is improved.
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    Sure Bass is a better backup center then West, but it's still not his natural position. I want a backup who actually has the Center spot as his first spot and possibly PF second.
    The problem is that there isn't a Center that is available that I think could be had. I'd rather have Bass as an option to fill out the frontcourt rather than live with Amundson/Foster/Pendegraph for the rest of this season.

    The only option that I would have considered is ZaZa...whose doing a very good job of filling in for Horford now that he's out...but he's not an option.
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    If we land Wilson Chandler we could do some serious damage..
    Sure he would be....but he's a RFA...the Simon's won't touch another RFA out of respect to the other Team Owners.
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    Keep in mind, there's a difference between "fixing what isn't broken" and "improving and building upon an existing foundation that is already strong".

    I would love to hit a homerun ( which IMHO would be getting an impact Player to help fill out the Wing and Frontcourt rotation without giving up any part of the "Starting 7" that does not adversely affect the Salary Cap beyond the 2012-2013 season ) but would settle for a "single or double" if it did not cost any of the "Starting 7" that would not affect the 2012-2013 SalaryCap and could help us make a deeper run into the Playoffs....IF no opportunities present themselves.

    For example, if the Pacers could get a Player like Mayo ( as a rental and possible "addition" to the future core ) or Hinrich ( an expiring Contract that would help solidfy the Wing rotation without impacting the 2012-2013 season ), I would consider that to be a "single or a double" that could help us this season.

    The roster as it stands now is solid....and IMHO would get us to the 1st round....the question as to how far we get is dependant on whether the roster is improved.
    Not saying that I don't like Mayo or Hinrich but I just think we should try to aim higher, we have the cap space and pieces to make something happen, some teams that are not going to make the playoffs are going to start to trade their players pretty soon.

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    Here is an article from hoopsworld about who is going to be available at the trade dealine.

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    The Names To Know: The NBA trade deadline is roughly 45 days from today, meaning NBA teams still have a rather large window to make transactions and changes, however several teams have started dangling assets, and a list of available or in some cases unavailable guys is starting to take shape. Here are the situations to watch:

    Chris Kaman: The New Orleans Hornets has decided to move out with Chris Kaman and have agreed to let him stay away from the team until they can find a trade. A number of teams are hoping the Hornets will buyout Kaman so they can get him on the cheap, but Hornets sources say that’s just not going to happen.

    Word is a small handful of teams have called, and while the offers won’t reinvent the franchise there are a few teams willing to get close to the asking price on Kaman which is a first round draft pick, a young player still on a rookie deal and an ending contract to make it work under the cap.

    The Rockets and Spurs have expressed interest according to John Reid of The Times Picayune. League sources say the list for Kaman is much wider with the Celtics, Jazz and Grizzlies said to have interest.

    The Hornets say they will take as long as necessary to resolve this and Kaman has been allowed to stay home until a solution is found.

    The Rocket Parts: The Houston Rockets have been active, but word is their asking price on players is very, very high. As one executive classified it; “they are asking the moon for role players”, but it is clear that Courtney Lee, Jonny Flynn and Terrence Williams all could be had.

    League sources also say that Jordan Hill and Chase Budinger are also obtainable players, but what Houston is looking for from those guys is way too much.

    The Rockets would love to add a serious small forward to the mix and have labeled point guard Kyle Lowry and shooting guard Kevin Martin all but untouchable.

    League sources say the team would part with Luis Scola if it returned a serious upgrade at the four, but given how rocky the season has been for Scola, his value is low but his price tag is high.

    Houston seems to be banking on a team in panic-mode overpaying, so while there are Rockets that are available, a deal with Houston may take time, simply because the prices are too high.

    Anthony Morrow: The New Jersey Nets are going nowhere fast, and while there are still lots of games to be played there is a sense that New Jersey is ready to start planning for the offseason.

    The Nets have $34 million in salary commitments for next season which includes the final $4 million year on Anthony Morrow and the final $4.25 million Player Option owed to Jordan Farmar.

    Both players at one point have been offered to Memphis in exchange for OJ Mayo’s ending contract, and league sources say there is a desire on New Jersey’s part to cash those guys in for ending deals before the trade deadline.

    Of the two, Morrow has the most trade value because of his 41% three point percentage.

    It seems clear the Nets will try and clean up their roster before the trade deadline, meaning Morrow and Farmar should be on notice.

    Andre Iguodala/Elton Brand : You can take Iggy and Brand off your wish list. Sources close to the Sixers say unless a deal that upgrades the position surfaces, neither guy is on the block or being actively talked about in trade.

    The 76ers are 14-6 with a two game hold on the Atlantic Division, meaning if the Playoffs started today they are the fourth seed in the East and hosting playoff games.

    New ownership is far more concerned with getting into and competing in the playoffs, than they are in trimming costs, so the odds of a deal involving Iguodala or Brand seems extremely low.

    If the floor falls out from under Philly, things may change, but as things stand now 76ers president Rod Thorn is not engaging in trade talks involving his core players.

    Sources say Craig Brackins or even Andres Nocioni could be had, but that’s the extent of what Philly would part with.

    The Cavs: The Cleveland Cavaliers have a lot of attractive assets – Daniel Gibson, Anthony Parker, Anderson Varejao even Antawn Jamison is playing well for the Cavs.

    Cavs fans want draft picks, but Cavs management and coaches want to win.

    As one Cavs source explained, ownership wants to get back to the playoffs quickly and the idea of playing for a draft pick does not ring anyone’s bell in Cleveland.

    Losing a ton of games usually costs coaches and executives their jobs, so no one in a decision making capacity is ready to concede the season yet, and if the Playoffs started today the Cavs are the eighth seed and they view that as far more beneficial to their growth than tanking the season for a pick.

    So for now, the Cavs are sitting out the trade market for the most part, but that may change in 45 days.

    If the Cavs are still in the picture come March do not expect much by way of trade, mainly because the Cavs have only $32.5 million in commitments next year, and believe that a playoff team is more attractive to free agents than a lottery team.

    They also believe that giving young guys like Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson a taste of the post-season could mean more to their growth as players than tanking down the stretch.

    There is a real concern about acceptable losing, something head Byron Scott won’t tolerate.

    As the Cavs source said “you can always buy a draft pick” but shaking a losing culture is much harder to do.

    Stephen Jackson: The marriage between the Milwaukee Bucks and Stephen Jackson is getting bad. If you recall several weeks ago Jackson was suspended for a game for missing the team bus. Well the real story is not nearly as neat and clean. Apparently Jackson blew off shoot around because he wanted to sleep in.

    Jackson recently lost a game to a league suspension for verbal abuse of an official, and to say the Bucks are growing weary of Jackson’s act is an understatement.

    The Bucks’ players love Jackson, he is viewed a big brother to a number of them, but the Bucks are worried that Stephen’s off the court lifestyle is starting to rub off on Brandon Jennings and with his aging body and contract demands, that makes him problematic going forward.

    The Bucks are still sniffing at the playoff picture, but if that changes over the next month or Jackson becomes even more problematic than he’s been, expect the Bucks to try and liquidate him.

    From all accounts the asking price won’t be much because the league as a whole knows what’s going on with Jackson and when the Bucks pull the trigger it will be to get out of the Stephen Jackson business.

    D.J. Augustin: The Bobcats continue to say DJ Augustin is not going anywhere, but sources close to several teams say he is available.

    DJ is playing some solid basketball recently averaging close to 13 points and 6 assists per game. However it’s becoming clear that DJ could be sold off if it returns the right pieces in exchange.

    The Bobcats would like to collect a few more draft assets. It’s also likely that any deal involving DJ either includes Corey Maggette’s contract, which has one year and $10.92 million remaining, or the contract of Matt Carroll, which has one year $3.5 million remaining.

    The Bobcats are not shopping DJ, but sources say if they could use DJ to collect some draft picks and clean up the books it’s an option they would explore.

    Jameer Nelson: Jameer is currently suffering from concussion-type symptoms and will miss tonight’s game versus the 76ers and his status is listed as day to day.

    If you have been watching the Magic this season you’ve likely noticed that Jameer, who just three years ago was an All-Star, is now a shell of himself and getting beat out most nights by Chris Duhon for minutes.

    Magic fans would love to see a trade, but as league sources point out Jameer’s value is likely at an all-time low and now that you factor in a concussion, his trade value is in the crapper.

    The Magic have been sniffing around for trades, but the truth of it is with virtually no tradable assets outside of Ryan Anderson and JJ Redick, the Magic do not have much to work with.

    On March 1st Glen “Big Baby” Davis can be traded as can Jason Richardson, but given the massive contracts both received this summer, league sources label them as low interest players. They have not played especially well and are owed a ton.

    While the Magic may need to upgrade at a number of positions, they may not have the expendable chips to deal.

    Jameer Nelson holds almost no trade value given how poorly he’s played and the fact that he has $7.8 million on his deal this year and one more year at $7.8 million next year, that makes moving him or upgrading him almost impossible.

    Steve Nash: Do not hold your breath on Steve Nash being traded. Sources close to the process say that what’s been offered for Nash is laughable at best and that as long as Steve wants to be in Phoenix, he’ll be a Sun.

    Suns fans are worried that the team may lose a future hall of famer to free agency, but sources close to the situation say the Suns may be willing to do a new deal with Nash this summer in the $8 to $10 million range to insure Steve stays in Phoenix and that kind of money may be more than anyone else in free agency would or could pay for Nash.

    Nash recently told HOOPSWORLD’s Bill Ingram that he felt a sense of loyalty to the Suns, that may change when his contract ends.

    Phoenix’s stance on trading Nash may change too once the trade deadline gets closer.

    Suns’ source continue to say what they have and get from Nash, they could never replace in trade, and if Nash is open to staying in Phoenix beyond this year the Suns seem open to that.

    The Suns have $31.8 million in salary commitments next season, so without Nash’s $11.6 million deal on the books, they look to be sizable free agent players.

    It’s not out of the questions that Nash is shopped and traded at the deadline, but what’s coming out of Phoenix is that they are not actively looking or entertaining anything with Nash and that keeping him beyond this season is the first option.

    If that falls through and its clear Nash is leaving, that’s when a trade will likely happen and the Suns are not there yet.

    Shawn Marion: The Dallas Mavericks have been winning games lately, including an overtime win against San Antonio last night.

    The Mavericks won’t be defending their NBA title this year, but as things stand they could be in the playoffs as they are currently the fourth seed in the West.

    The problem facing the Mavericks is they want to be free agent players this summer and have eyes for both New Jersey’s Deron Williams and Orlando’s Dwight Howard as free agents.

    The Mavs are viewed as long-shots to land either, and the best case scenario for Dallas is to get enough cap space to offer both players near-Max deals and be enough of a threat to force a sign and trade for one.

    The odds Dallas gets one, is directly tied to their ability to get the other.

    As things sit, the Mavericks have $54 million in salary commitments next season.

    That number includes the non-guaranteed year on Lamar Odom’s deal, so let’s knock that number off right out of the gate.

    Assuming the Maverick drop Odom and use their roster Amnesty on Brendan Haywood’s $8.3 million deal; that would drop the Mavs down to $37.77 million in commitments or roughly $20.2 million in cap space.

    Vince Carter has $2 million of his deal guaranteed, so you can add another million to the Dallas pie, bringing the commitments to $36.77 million and roughly $21 million in space.

    Enter Shawn Marion.

    If the Mavericks are genuinely going to be a player for both Deron Williams and Dwight Howard, they either need a sign and trade for one of them, or they have to move off as much of Shawn Marion’s contract as possible.

    That’s the dilemma the Mavericks find themselves.

    They are currently the fourth seed in the West, meaning home court in the first round. If they liquidate Marion, they likely throw away the playoffs in exchange for a dream of tomorrow.

    Even with Marion’s contract off the books the Mavericks would only have $29.6 million in space, meaning the most they could offer Williams and Howard is $14.8 million apiece, and that might not be enough without a sign and trade for one of them.

    So watch how the Mavericks play the Shawn Marion card, if he’s dealt or aggressively shopped that means Dallas as stronger than average indications they could get the free agents they covet.

    If Marion is on the roster after the trade deadline, there is almost no scenario in which Dallas gets Williams and Howard.

    Timberwolves: The Minnesota Timberwolves are a two guard away from being very good. They know it. The league knows it and Timberwolves’ fans have known it all season.

    The Wolves have a number of cashable parts. The problem is there does not seem to be a lot of interest in Wes Johnson, Wayne Ellington or Luke Ridnour – especially not for a starting caliber two guard.

    Sources close to the situation say there are few teams that would do a deal for rookie Derrick Williams but at this point the Wolves seem unwilling to move him or entertain talks involving him.

    The parts the Wolves would cash don’t seem to be drawing much, so while the Wolves understand they need to upgrade, they are not eager to make a bad deal, but expect them to be active in the march up to the deadline. If a starter at the two spot shakes loose, they seem eager and willing to pull the trigger.

    Keep an eye on Houston’s Courtney Lee… Wolves’ coach Rick Adelman knows him and it seems he is available from the Rockets. If the price comes down, don’t be surprised to see a deal.

    Courtney is no Kevin Martin, but at this point the Wolves are buyers in a sellers’ market place.

    Jose Calderon/Leandro Barbosa: The Raptors are shopping. They’d like to pick up another draft pick or two, but the real need is at Small Forward.

    Sources close to the process say the Raptors plan to make life hard on the Denver Nuggets with regards to restricted free agent Wilson Chandler. Wilson is waiting for his clearance from China after dominating in the CBA.

    Sources say that Jose Calderon and Leandro Barbosa could be moved to land a traded player exception or smaller assets to swap with Denver in a sign and trade.

    The Nuggets say they will re-sign Wilson, but with the dollars committed to Nene, Arron Afflalo and now Danilo Gallinari – Toronto may put a number on the table via a sign and trade offer that makes re-signing Chandler in Denver tough.

    Denver holds the power as Wilson is a restricted free agent, but Toronto has eyes for Wilson and seems willing to pony up the dollars. They’d still need a deal, but once one team puts a crazy number on the table that’s how prices get set.

    A starting small forward still sits at the top of the Raptor’s wish list, and it seems Calderon and LB are the chips they will cash to get one, so keep that in mind as other names start to shake loose.

    Devin Harris: The Utah Jazz have been winning games and if the playoffs started today they’d be the fifth seed in the West.

    Not bad for a team without a true star player.

    The Jazz have been shopping guard Devin Harris since last season when they acquired him as part of the Deron Williams deal. Harris is starting games, but he is not a huge factor for the Jazz.

    Harris is owed $9.2 million this year and $8.5 million next year, which is a ton of money for an average player in the new NBA economy.

    League sources say the only real way Utah is moving Devin Harris is if they take back an unfavorable contract or if they include one of their better players in the deal.

    Jazz sources say Paul Millsap is not available, and that outside of maybe rookie Alec Burks there is not much the Jazz would be willing to move to dump Harris.

    The Jazz have found a groove that works, so there is not a lot of urgency to deal, but at the deadline gets closer, look for Harris to be offered around a bit more as he’s the chip the Jazz would like to cash.

    The NBA trade market is a fluid place that’s ever changing, especially with more than a month to go before the March 15th deadline.

    As most executives have described it, this is more of a seller’s market, with teams looking to extract high value on the players they will part with. Eventually the market will come to the middle, that’s when deals will start to drop.

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    In my opinion we have no choice but to bring in another big body. I love Foster but we cannot go into the post season with Lou and Pando as our backup centers and expect to get past the 2nd round. DeAndre Jordan type player would be what I would look for. Young and improving.

    I would like also the Pacers to bring in a young pass first point guard (with a potential higher ceiling) to cultivate behind DC. Someone like a Mike Conley a few years ago. I think our team tries to over compensate with careless drives in the paint when DC has problems getting around his man. DC just can't drive through contact imo.
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    I think that Kaman winds up with the Pacers when it's all said and done. I don't think that Houston is going to be willing to part with the players that New Orleans is going to want in return and the Pacers ability to take on his salary without sending any back is going to be better than what other teams can offer.

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    Not saying that I don't like Mayo or Hinrich but I just think we should try to aim higher, we have the cap space and pieces to make something happen, some teams that are not going to make the playoffs are going to start to trade their players pretty soon.
    Keep in mind that I was suggesting Mayo or Hinrich were "last resort" options ( as in a "single or a double deal ) assuming that there are no better deals out there ( as in a "homerun" deal ) by the end of this trade deadline.

    Just looking at this particular season....both of us know that this lineup could be better....but I'd rather go for either ( if the cost wasn't significant ) if the option was available over doing nothing.
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    One of three things.

    1) trade for another shooter/scorer to come off the bench.
    2) a trade to get some size to backup Roy
    3) a more singificant trade to upgrade our starting point guard.

    In fact they are probably looking at all three

    let me just add that 1 and 2 can be done without trading one of our top 7 players. Number 3 would involve trading one of our top 7.
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    One of three things.

    1) trade for another shooter/scorer to come off the bench.
    2) a trade to get some size to backup Roy
    3) a more singificant trade to upgrade our starting point guard.

    In fact they are probably looking at all three
    Well, if anyone on the Pacers FO is reading PD....hopefully someone is looking into all 3 of these options
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    Upgrade at point guard and backup C are priorties. At some point, I feel we will need a good shooter at SF off the bench too.

    I'd love to look into a deal centered around Nash and Lopez (possibly include Dudley as the backup SF shooter). I would imagine the Suns would like Collison, draft picks, and instant cap savings, all of which we could offer. My understanding is that they like Amundson as well.

    Rondo is my ideal target, but I'm just not certain we can get that done without gutting our core.

    I wouldn't touch Hibbert, West, Hans, Granger, George, or Hill unless it's a clear star upgrade (undersized SG's need not apply).

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    One of three things.

    1) trade for another shooter/scorer to come off the bench.
    2) a trade to get some size to backup Roy
    3) a more singificant trade to upgrade our starting point guard.

    In fact they are probably looking at all three

    let me just add that 1 and 2 can be done without trading one of our top 7 players. Number 3 would involve trading one of our top 7.

    Toronto has 3 and 1 and are giving them away for cap space(Calderon,Barbosa) number two could be filled if they were willing to part with Ed Davis for us helping them to free up cap space and we don't trade anybody of importance(maybe Lou, AJ, Lance, etc)

    Starting unit: Calderon, PG, Danny, West, Roy

    Bench unit: DC, Hill, Barbosa, Tyler, Ed Davis.


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