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    Yes Pacers are interested

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    As NBA/Hornets survey trade market for Chris Kaman, Rockets, Pacers, Jazz, Spurs are a few teams with interest, sources tell Y!


    Chris Mannix @ChrisMannixSI
    Hearing HOU is interested in Chris Kaman. Not surprised. Don't think there is a legit center in the league the Rockets aren't interested in

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    Boston would love to get Kaman but the Celtics don't have the assets.
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    Default Re: Should we rent Chris Kaman?

    And also I would love for then to sign him just in case because we don't know if Hibbert is coming back.







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    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
    Details To be clear, Jazz checked on Kaman some time ago but doesn't make sense now. Detroit likes him, needs center. Most teams have found (cont.)


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    Details Golden State could use Chris Kaman - who has officially been put on trading block by New Orleans - but source says they haven't called yet.



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    Details (Cont.) Hornets asking price for Kaman too high. "They were asking for draft picks, cap space and a young player," one executive says

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    Default Re: Should we rent Chris Kaman?

    We could've gotten two-years of the superior Sam Dalembert (signed with Houston for 2/$14M) for the same price some of you are wanting to pay for one-year of Chris Kaman.

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    Default Re: Should we rent Chris Kaman?

    1st rounder and aj price get it done larry

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    Details (Cont.) Hornets asking price for Kaman too high. "They were asking for draft picks, cap space and a young player," one executive says
    Good luck with that.

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    And also I would love for then to sign him just in case because we don't know if Hibbert is coming back.







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    We absolutely do this if we have an opportunity.

    I think that the NBA/Hornets would think long and hard about an offer of a pick (hopefully 2nd, but perhaps a 1st) and Stanko for Kaman.

    They get a young prospect that could be brought over, they dump the salary and get a pick while taking NO salary back.

    That's the best they are gonna get.
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    1st rounder and aj price get it done larry
    They could actually use Price lol he would play over Squeaky

    I wouldnt offer any more than Price and a 2nd rder or 2 they want to trade him I would only bite if the price is right. Remember we have cap room that is an asset in itself. Most other teams have to send 14m back to the Hornets which is hard to do without sending a bad deal back which the Hornets dont want.
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    Kaman would be a huge help for this team.

    I would still like to aim higher, but can't wait forever and it's only for the rest of the year. A guy of his caliber would be huge in the playoffs in case Roy is in foul trouble.

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    Kaman would be a huge help for this team.

    I would still like to aim higher, but can't wait forever and it's only for the rest of the year. A guy of his caliber would be huge in the playoffs in case Roy is in foul trouble.
    So now you are buying what I've been trying to sell all this time?

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    We could've gotten two-years of the superior Sam Dalembert (signed with Houston for 2/$14M) for the same price some of you are wanting to pay for one-year of Chris Kaman.

    True, but he's a starter in Houston, so why come here for b/u minutes?

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    So now you are buying what I've been trying to sell all this time?
    No you've been screaming for any old stiff that's 7 foot tall. 99% of whom aren't very good at basketball, and that wouldn't change anything. Kaman however is actually a good basketball player. If I recall correctly he's been close to 20-10 before for a year or two.

    Much different than just wanting 'another 7 footer'.

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    Kaman would be a huge help for this team.

    I would still like to aim higher, but can't wait forever and it's only for the rest of the year. A guy of his caliber would be huge in the playoffs in case Roy is in foul trouble or ( heaven forbid ) gets injured for long periods of time and we are forced to see some combination of Amundson/West/Hansbrough pretend to be a Backup Center.
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    I've been wanting the Pacers to go after Kaman for the past 2 years. I think I've started 2 threads on the subject and brought up the idea in several threads. Amazingly everytime I've suggested it, 9 out of 10 people have disagreed with me, now that he's being pushed out of N.O. everyone wants him. I'm glad to see opinion turning on him, now I just hope the Pacers brass see things the same way. I've watched N.O. play a few times this year and Kaman still looks the same, just a little less motivated when he's out there. I don't think he's lost that much but his time in N.O. may have done us a favor in lowering his market value. If we manage a reasonable trade for Kaman I hope it's not just as a rental. He's too good to just be Roy's backup long term though. In order to keep Kaman he'd want and deserve more minutes then that, he won't want to be here to play 15-20 minutes per game. Kaman could play alongside Roy in limited minutes as well as back him up to give him his 30 minutes. There would be nothing wrong with making Tyler or West expendable this summer. A package around one of these 2 and DC might net us the pg that would take us to the next level.

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    A first round pick for a rental? some of you people have lost your minds.

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    updated article.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/75...-c-chris-kaman



    The New Orleans Hornets are actively trying to trade center Chris Kaman, who was not with the team for its home game Friday night against Orlando as the league-owned Hornets field trade calls for him.


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    The Hornets have decided to shelve Kaman until they can find a trade home for him after making the decision to give his minutes to young players. Kaman had been made inactive for Wednesday's loss at Oklahoma City even though he's not injured.
    "We've informed Chris that we are looking into possible trades and he was understanding about the situation," Hornets GM Dell Demps said. "We're working together on this.
    "Chris has been the ultimate professional since he joined us. In no way is this a disciplinary action. We had discussions about extending his current contract when he first came to the Hornets, but the organization decided to go in a different direction."

    The Hornets acquired Kaman in December as part of the blockbuster deal that sent face of the franchise Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers, but it was widely assumed around the league from the start that New Orleans would turn around and trade Kaman before the March 15 deadline, at least partly because he has an expiring contract.

    "It's just something (where) we want to play our young guys and we certainly don't want to disrespect Chris at all," Hornets coach Monty Williams told local reporters before Friday night's game against the Magic.

    "This is something we want to keep internally. It's certainly not disciplinary and he understands and I talked to him. We're going to play Jason Smith, Gustavo Ayon and Al-Farouq Aminu. It's just difficult to play that many bigs and I understand how difficult it is for (Kaman) to not get the minutes he wants."

    Kaman, who turns 30 in April, is making roughly $14 million this season. He became the oldest player on the Hornets' roster after being dealt with guard Eric Gordon, Aminu and Minnesota's unprotected 2012 first-round pick for Paul.

    Capitalizing on the minutes vacated by Kaman, Ayon scored 16 points in 17 minutes against the Thunder on 8-for-10 shooting.
    Once the Hornets made the decision to focus on the development of their young big men, sources close to the situation said, they approached Kaman and his representative, Rob Pelinka, about the 7-footer being deactivated until a trade can be consummated. The thinking is that it would be unwise to play Kaman even in spot minutes and risk exposing him to injury if it's clear that he will be dealt before the March 15 trading deadline.
    With the Hornets mired at 3-15 entering Friday's play, building for the future in the wake of Paul's departure has emerged as the organization's clear priority.

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    [QUOTE=GrangeRusHibbert;1359446]We could've gotten two-years of the superior Sam Dalembert (signed with Houston for 2/$14M) for the same price some of you are wanting to pay for one-year of Chris Kaman.[/QUOTE)
    Kamam won't cost 14 mil to keep around but he may cost a little more then the Dalembert.
    There is no reality where Dalembert is as good as Kaman.

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    There is no reality where Dalembert is as good as Kaman.
    I would take Dally over Kaman they are completely different styles one only plays defense(with a few decent post moves) and rebounds the other only plays offense(mostly 15-17ft jumpers and some post moves) and rebounds.
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    Yeah, they can have Amundson, Price, and a 2nd rounder. That's all for a rental.

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    Default Re: Should we rent Chris Kaman?

    If it's a salary dump, sure...why not? However, I'm not giving up a lot just so Kaman can be Hibbert's caddy. I'm sure towards the deadline, we could find a strictly salary dump backup center.

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    Ive seen MORE than enough of Lou, make the team better NOW Larry.

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    We could've gotten two-years of the superior Sam Dalembert (signed with Houston for 2/$14M) for the same price some of you are wanting to pay for one-year of Chris Kaman.
    You are taking facts and reaching an unwarranted assumption. Just because Sam signed with Houston for 2/$14m doesn't mean we could have gotten him for the same deal.

    For all we know the Pacers could have offered him a better deal, but Sam didn't want to back up Hibbert.

    As for Chris Kaman, I'm all for getting him if it doesn't disrupt our core. But we have to remember he's probably going to be a rental, so other than salary cap and maybe a couple 2ed round picks is all I would want to offer.

    Can you imagine going into the playoffs with a front line rotation of Hibbert, Kaman, West, Hans, and Foster.

    Actually, I would really like to get him as a member of our permanent core, but I don't know if he would want to back up Hibbert.

    However, looking at what the Pacers front office has already accomplished in building this team, whatever they give for him would be okay with me.

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    I really don't see how we could pull this off. We have two of the three items they want, cap space and draft picks. But they also want a young prospect back as well.

    Would A.J. be enough? Would Lance? No way in hades do I ever give up Paul, George or Tyler for him.

    Would you guys be willing to give up Lance to rent Kaman for the rest of the year if you could get him for Lance, a pick and taking on the salary?

    Hmmmm... now that I think about it I wonder if they would consider Stanko as a young prospect. Obviously we don't.


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    They may want it, but I doubt they get it. They'll probably have to settle for one or two out of the three they want. I'd offer them a couple of 2nd rounder and of course that would equal cap space as well, and if AJ is the difference between a yes or a no I consider it, but otherwise they can suck it. They don't have much leverage here. At least not to a team like us. Maybe there's a more urgent team out there?

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