Also, I posted that as I was still listening; wow to the George Hill part. At least a little bit. Hill wanted 7.5m a year, Pacers wanted him at 6m, so they'll wait until summer to figure that out.
Damn, no home-town discount eh? MLE type money is more than fair IMO.
I like Hill, but for that kind of money, I'd rather just put it toward an offer for EJ instead.
Sounds like Hill will be a one year rental.
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Roy and Falk are being smart. Roy's value has increased already this year. If he stays consistent and plays well in the postseason, his contract will be huge. Not Kevin Love level, but closer than I would have thought possible 2 months ago
With Hill, I don't know.
I'm purely speculating here, but at this point I don't think the market nets him 7.5/yr next summer. If it does, then somebody is foolishly overpaying him.
Cool, I think we'll get Hill for less than 6 million this summer, so I'm good with that.
IMO, Hill's salary will depend fully on how he plays in the playoffs.
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If someone will give Hill a deal around 8.4, asking 7.5 isn't way too much. Lol
Hill is going to have to play much better this year to get 8+. And I don't care if he turns out to be a rental. Cap space is a reward in itself. I suspect we'll get a deal done, though.
Under that approach Hill should just ask for $14M/year and expect to end up at $10M/year. You don't just split the difference if you feel the other party is being unreasonable. You pay what the market dictates.
Hill at $7.5M is unreasonable. He should be paid what guys like Lowry, Dudley, Lou Williams, Korver, and Reddick got, which is between $5M-$6M.
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No one is going to pay George that much. He is a good scorer, but he is undersized and he can't really play point as a starting point guard. So either he comes off the bench or he starts at shooting guard and is a liability on defense because of his size. Not that he is a bad defender, he is actually quite good, but he would get abused by tall guards like Paul George for instance.
I think 5MPY is the most he will get.
Guys, you can't really fault his agent for asking. There isn't a rush to get this done. It will play itself out, and I doubt he will get exactly what he is asking for.
As for Hill's play so far - He has done pretty well when you consider he is adjusting to a new team, coach and system. I look for him to keep getting better as the year goes along.
I want to keep Hill, but not at $7.5m per year.
LOL at Hill wanting $7.5M. I don't care what he says in the media, Hill would rather play elsewhere.
7.5mil? I love Hill that's way too much.
Dude wants 7.5 million extension after playing only 17 games with his new team. Either he is extremely confident, greedy, or hopes to play else where next year.
George, you are good player, but you have been a bench player your entire career for a reason... 6 Million is a great offer.
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Hahahaha $7.5 million!?!? Dream on, George.
I think $7.5 is too high for Hill, but don't you think he has to ask for it?? This is his job, and I know I want as much money out of my job as possible, so if I am approached for retention/extension, I am asking for the moon.
Hill knew he wasn't getting 7.5, and he now knows where the Pacers feel comfortable paying him. If he has a hell of a season, he could command 7.5 or higher in RFA, chances are he won't. As long as he stays healthy, and his game remains contant, he will test the free agency pool and see just how warm it is to him. My gut tells me he'll be back in a Pacers uni next year at the cost of $5.5 - 6.5. If some other team offers him, say, 8.5 at the end of the season, good for him....You get yours.....Just depends on what's important to the person, the money, the team, or the chance at a championship....