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    I'm just glad he's not named Jim.

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    Or you play Freeney/Mathis as LBs....
    Ya I suppose that sorta thing has been done a lot recently... not sure how they would do.. I think Mathis would be the better LB but he's the unsigned one.

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    It worked in Houston. Not saying that it'd work here, but they're pretty athletic.
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    This team will look Totally different in two years. I think FO is wanting to get younger and more talented on both sides of the ball.

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    Gonna be interesting to see what he does with our 4-3 defense. Sure the D's not all that good and it's easy to say scrap the system, but you've gotta actually get new players to do it. We try to go to some sort of 3-4 hybrid (like everyone else in the league lately it seems) basically the entire front 7 needs replaced. Nevis and Anderson could potentially be solid 3-4 ends maybe, but there's obviously no one on the roster even close to being a nose tackle in that scheme and that's the most important part. Not a coincidence the Ravens D became elite again after they drafted Ngata. I could potentially see Mathis as a standup rush end DeMarcus Ware style, wouldn't be ideal but it could maybe work, but I can't see Freeney doing it really. Of course...there's a prototype 3-4 rush linebacker already on the roster we drafted a few years ago...

    Regardless, it's an encouraging hire. He's gotten rave reviews from basically every single player I've seen asked about it, and the Ravens fanbase is pissed about losing him. The absolute best part is that his history is as a defensive secondary coach, and ours is just absolutely dreadful.
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    Finally. What should have been done during the Manning Era: Let the superstar QB polish some turds on offense while you focus your staff and treasure on defense. At least I hope that's what this is signaling.

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    Finally. What should have been done during the Manning Era: Let the superstar QB polish some turds on offense while you focus your staff and treasure on defense. At least I hope that's what this is signaling.
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    Gonna be interesting to see what he does with our 4-3 defense. Sure the D's not all that good and it's easy to say scrap the system, but you've gotta actually get new players to do it. We try to go to some sort of 3-4 hybrid (like everyone else in the league lately it seems) basically the entire front 7 needs replaced. Nevis and Anderson could potentially be solid 3-4 ends maybe, but there's obviously no one on the roster even close to being a nose tackle in that scheme and that's the most important part. Not a coincidence the Ravens D became elite again after they drafted Ngata. I could potentially see Mathis as a standup rush end DeMarcus Ware style, wouldn't be ideal but it could maybe work, but I can't see Freeney doing it really. Of course...there's a prototype 3-4 rush linebacker already on the roster we drafted a few years ago...

    Regardless, it's an encouraging hire. He's gotten rave reviews from basically every single player I've seen asked about it, and the Ravens fanbase is pissed about losing him. The absolute best part is that his history is as a defensive secondary coach, and ours is just absolutely dreadful.
    Mathis replied on twitter that he could play linebacker if he had to. LOL

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    Im very interested to see his presser tomorrow
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    Mathis replied on twitter that he could play linebacker if he had to. LOL
    Not surprising. Mathis has talked about how he'd love in a Ravens hybrid type D. Course, who wouldn't? I hope we can keep him and get creative with Mathis, that dude is incredibly underrated.

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    Mathis would be a good hybrid.. Freeney is the one im worried about.. He's the better DE, but not in a 3-4 system and i just cant see him working out as a very good LB either. He may be the odd man out if we switch.

    Maybe the second pick in the draft can be used on a big DT to clog up those spaces, or as i mentioned earlier we can trade Freeney if we switch.

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    Or you play Freeney/Mathis as LBs....
    I think Hughes would benefit too.
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    Honestly now is a PERFECT time to employ 3-4 defense... Mathis is a FA... we could trade Freeney for a big DT or other skilled player.. Angerer, Brackett, Wheeler, Sims, Connor all good choices to choose from at LB.

    I honestly think Brackett and Sims wouldn't be a good fit. Sims was a nickel LB for us this year, and Brackett is more of a coverage guy also. Im not saying in a 3-4 the LBs don't need to cover, but we need bigger inside LBs that will be able to shed blocks by huge guards and centers. Coverage is more for the secondary, which thankfully is Pagano's specialty. I do think Angerer, Wheeler, and Connor would be a decent rotation inside with Mathis and Hughes outside.

    Honestly I don't know if Freeney can transition to this system after having his hand in the ground for so long, and he's too small for a 3-4 end. There are different ways to run a 3-4 and possibly Freeney could stay at end if we run a 1-gap Wade Phillips style 3-4. We would just have to put a FAT @SS nose tackle next to him for it to work, and the other end would have to be big too. If we did that then we would have more of a hybrid look. The 5 guys on the line of scrimmage would be Hughes, Freeney, fat NT, fat DE, Mathis. That's a pretty good looking front i think depending on the D-line acquisitions, cuz some of our lineman wouldn't be a good fit.
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    The hardest thing about going to a 3-4 is going to be finding that NT that commands double teams and can anchor the line. Not an easy find, and we certainly don't have one on the team now.

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    The hardest thing about going to a 3-4 is going to be finding that NT that commands double teams and can anchor the line. Not an easy find, and we certainly don't have one on the team now.
    Ya definitely.. Ngata, Wilfork come to mind as the beasts you need. You can function without it for a short while though if you eventually find one.

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    Finally. What should have been done during the Manning Era: Let the superstar QB polish some turds on offense while you focus your staff and treasure on defense. At least I hope that's what this is signaling.
    I totally agree, Hicks. Now, in no way is Luck like Manning, but there is the potential there that he could be similar. That being said, how many franchises get the chance to mess up team-building with an all time great quarterback and then get the chance to potentially turn around and learn from those mistakes with a similar situation for the next decade? If Luck is half of what he is supposed to be, and he doesn't get around 2 rings, consider the organization to just not be talented in the scouting area any longer.

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    Colts.com video of Pagano arriving and a brief interview:

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    Anyone have any updates about the press conference? Can't watch it while at work..

    I'm sure ill get Twitter updates soon from the media guys but if anyone is watching it, that would be faster.

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    I'm liking the new guy, he sounds a bit like you know who but it looks like he actually has a personality unlike Jim C.
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    Does anyone think that Nevis could be the guy at DT in the 3-4?

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    Does anyone think that Nevis could be the guy at DT in the 3-4?
    not a chance IMO he is to small IMO you would have to draft someone and they normally go in the 1st or 2nd rd. But hey maybe Jerry Hughes would play that is the perfect system for him.

    It should be interesting to see what they do in terms of personal they need a lot of changes to play a good 3-4.


    I think the Colts will play multiple defenses not just 3-4/

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    I think the Colts will play multiple defenses not just 3-4/
    I agree with this. They definitely won't be able to switch to full time 3-4 overnight anyway. That's a transformation that might take two full drafts to make happen. In the meantime, they are going to have to be flexible and be able to play mutliple formations and have athletes that can switch back and forth seamlessly.

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