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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

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"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

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"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

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  • NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu...ern_nba_012312

    The New Orleans Hornets have made guard Eric Gordon a four-year contract extension after receiving authorization from the NBA, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    Gordon and the Hornets have until the end of Wednesday to reach a contract extension or he will become a restricted free agent at the end of the season.

    Gordon had told Yahoo! Sports on Monday that he was waiting to learn whether NBA commissioner David Stern would grant him a contract extension before the deadline. Gordon said he was informed by Hornets general manager Dell Demps that it was up to Stern to decide whether to extend an offer. The NBA owns the Hornets.

    “In terms of my contract extension, Dell Demps indicated that it’s out of his control and NBA commissioner David Stern has the last determination on the contract extension,” said Gordon, who will be a restricted free agent this summer if he doesn’t sign an extension.

    Gordon, center Chris Kaman, forward Al-Farouq Aminu and the Minnesota Timberwolves’ 2012 first-round pick were acquired by the Hornets in the trade that sent Chris Paul to the Los Angeles Clippers last month. The NBA gave approval to that trade after previously vetoing a deal that would have sent Paul to the Los Angeles Lakers. Stern has publicly expressed optimism that a Louisiana-based owner will buy the Hornets by midyear.

    Gordon has played in only two games for the Hornets because of a bruised right knee. He averaged 21 points in the two games. Gordon said he was evaluated by a team-appointed doctor in New York on Monday, and was told his right knee had no structural damage. The doctor, Gordon said, recommended he return to basketball activities in three weeks.

    “The doctor said my knee will be 100 percent sound with rest,” Gordon said.

    Gordon, 23, hasn’t been in New Orleans long, but is enthusiastic about the opportunity to play under Demps and coach Monty Williams.

    “I just hope a deal gets done before the deadline,” Gordon said.


    Dont sign it EG , come home like Kayne
    Sittin on top of the world!

  • #2
    Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

    Didn't Cain go home and kill Abel?
    "Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. … You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."

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    • #3
      Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

      I'm more excited by Eric Gordon, the defender, than I am by Eric Gordon, the scorer. This was, a year ago, a chillingly strong individual defensive player on the perimeter.

      Gordon's strongest aspect of isolation defense was his hands. Opponents turned the ball over to Gordon on almost 25% of the 97 instances that he was isolated defensively. Gordon's a gambler in this sense, but in a very different fashion than we've been accustomed to. Where Chris Paul gambled for steals at the expense of penetration, Eric Gordon very rarely swiped unless he was completely set in front of an offensive player and able to react laterally if he missed. His gambling came more in the form of personal fouls; while his overall foul count (2.3 pf/36 minutes) was tiny, the majority of his more egregious fouls came in this setting. Ultimately, Gordon's rate of a foul and a half per steal was a tradeoff worth making, even if it's worth keeping an eye on in late shot clock situations going forward.

      (this is why he played over people at the worlds and why he may get on the Olympic team)


      His strength as a scorer lay both in his efficiency and his versatility. The play he's arguably been most associated with since his arrival in New Orleans, the isolation, was only his third most utilized half-court possession type in 2011. Gordon was remarkably efficient at running the pick and roll; per Synergy Sports, Gordon scored 0.94 points per P&R possession, a shade lower than the 0.97 mark of the Hornets' Chris Paul.

      He scored efficiently off of cuts and screens and even showed a reasonable off-ball post game, pinning small defenders deep in the post before catching.

      Gordon's season was remarkable. Before 2010-2011, ten players in the modern era had posted seasons with usage rates over 25% and offensive efficiencies over 110 - Chris Paul, Amar'e Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Shaquille O'Neal, LeBron James, Terry Cummings, Derrick Rose, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Durant, and Michael Jordan.Every single one of those players was a multiple-time All-Star selection. Gordon proved that he could maintain high efficiency while shouldering heavy offensive responsibility, the best way to define, despite Carmelo Anthony's ostensible protests to the contrary, an offensive NBA star.



      Yep clearly Eric Gordon is a poor man's Marcus Thornton folks


      I swear I feel like this article reads my mind about how good EJ was last season very good read. Scary thing is EJ's defense is better than his offense.

      http://www.atthehive.com/2012/1/25/2...nets-extension


      If healthy there is no doubt Eric is a max level guy or near it. He will likely be getting a max offer and will take it. He may wait and get the 5th year though (I doubt it though he will take 4 if the money is right)

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      • #4
        Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

        So, we're back to waiting for EJ after the 2016 season?
        Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

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        • #5
          Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

          We don't know what kind of extension offer was approved. It could've been 4 years $16M. We'll know soon.

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          • #6
            Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

            Originally posted by CableKC View Post
            So, we're back to waiting for EJ after the 2016 season?
            It was always going to be a trade, if it did happen.
            Just because you're offended, doesn't mean you're right.” ― Ricky Gervais.

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            • #7
              Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

              So, There's still a chance!!
              Garbage players get 1st round picks, (WTF)! All of the NBA must hate the Pacers! LOL

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              • #8
                Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                Two things, I believe the extension will be at least 10 million a year, 2nd with regards to the stuff about how good Gordon is and "If he can stay healthy", that IF is a big one, this guy gets hurt way to often.
                Why so SERIOUS

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                • #9
                  Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                  my guess

                  is it will be 4yrs 45-55m

                  which is fair to the Hornets and the player option makes it fair for Eric.

                  with a player option on the 4th year(he would opt out if healthy because then he would be a 7yr vet and could get a bigger deal with the experience rule. This will be key IMO of getting the deal done

                  Kevin Love did the same thing with his deal I expect EJ to really go hard for the player option

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                  • #10
                    Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                    SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
                    Hornets didnt reach terms with guard Eric Gordon on a contract extension and he will be a restricted free agent this summer NBA sources say.
                    37 seconds ago

                    MikeWellsNBA Mike Wells
                    The Pacers don't usually go after restricted free agents, but you can expect them to pursue Gordon this summer.
                    33 seconds ago

                    GAH! IT WON'T DIE!
                    Last edited by Sandman21; 01-26-2012, 12:36 AM.
                    "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

                    "And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "

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                    • #11
                      Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                      Mike Wells @MikeWellsNBA Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
                      The Pacers don't usually go after restricted free agents, but you can expect them to pursue Gordon this summer.


                      Damn.

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                      • #12
                        Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                        Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
                        Hornets offered 4-year deal to Gordon after getting NBA clearance Tues. Expect Pacers to make run at the Indianapolis native in off-season.
                        @WhatTheFFacts: Studies show that sarcasm enhances the ability of the human mind to solve complex problems!

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                        • #13
                          Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                          Too much smoke for their to not be at least a small fire to the Eric Gordon to Pacers stuff.


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                          • #14
                            Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                            Originally posted by pacergod2 View Post
                            Didn't Cain go home and kill Abel?
                            No, he took him off to a field an then killed him, but what does that have to do with Gordon's extension?

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                              Re: NBA approves 4 year extension for Eric Gordon

                              Originally posted by Will Galen View Post
                              No, he took him off to a field an then killed him, but what does that have to do with Gordon's extension?
                              Eric Gordon is going to come home and kill Paul George with a rock in Lebanon?


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