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  • Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

    http://www.indycornrows.com/2012/1/2...ontract-status

    This is from Tom Lewis / Indy Cornrows

    Whether you like it or not, it appears Roy Hibbert won't agree to a contract extension with the Indiana Pacers by Wednesday's deadline the 2008 draft pick to sign an extension before becoming a restricted free agent this summer.

    There is no harm in letting Hibbert become a restricted free agent since the Pacers can match any offer the market bears much like Denver did this past summer with Nene. But based on panicky emails I've received and comments on various threads over the past few weeks, fans are stressing Roy's contract more than Roy himself. As the big fella told Mike Wells last week, he's just letting the process play itself out.

    "My personal gut feeling is that we'll do something in the summer, because the max guys are the ones that get extensions right away," Hibbert said. "I'm just going to follow my agent's lead."

    Hibbert's agent David "The Bird of Prey" Falk, commented on Roy's contract status on Monday after Roy showed his value to the Pacers in their win over the Los Angeles Lakers.

    "There's no rush," Falk said. "I think it's unlikely that we'll come to agreement this week. It doesn't mean in any way that he's not happy in Indiana. ... We've had very friendly discussions, and both sides recognize that the discussion is probably premature."

    So while you shouldn't expect to hear about a contract extension by Wednesday, I would encourage those expecting the worst to consider Hibbert's situation with the Pacers both sides work toward an extension. Assuming Hibbert maintains the reliable role he's played thus far this season, making a hefty raise almost a given at this point, a deal will happen to keep Roy around.

    I honestly would've shuddered at the thought of offering Hibbert more than $10 mil/yr prior to the season, but now something in the $12-$13 mil/yr range seems plausible. Even Hibbert admits he's not a max deal guy, so please don't get carried away. But he has shown how valuable a big guy with a reliable jump hook can be in the league and will likely get what he deserves.

    Remember too, though that Hibbert also values what he has with the Pacers right now. Chasing the highest bidder doesn't make sense if the leadership situation is unknown. Hibbert knows this all too well after struggling physically and mentally to work under Jim O'Brien. So it appears that it is in the best interest of the Pacers and Hibbert to stick together as they both seem to have turned the corner to a more promising future.

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    Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

    I have to admit, I am torn when it comes to Roy's contract situation.

    He is playing so well that he if he keeps it up he is going to earn a darn near max deal, or in that range at least.

    It's an interesting situation. We want Roy to succeed, become an All-Star, win M.I.P. perhaps. At the same time, I hate to think of losing one or more of our young pieces because we can't afford to keep the team together.

    What do you guys think? Will Roy take a reasonable contract in an effort to leave us with room to resign our other guys? Will his contract force us to have to not resign someone else?

    I have no doubt Roy wants to remain a Pacer. But at what cost to the team? That's the real question here.

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      Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

      I dont mind dealing with this in the summer. It'll help us sign someone else
      "So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.


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        Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

        Originally posted by TMJ31 View Post
        I have to admit, I am torn when it comes to Roy's contract situation.

        He is playing so well that he if he keeps it up he is going to earn a darn near max deal, or in that range at least.

        It's an interesting situation. We want Roy to succeed, become an All-Star, win M.I.P. perhaps. At the same time, I hate to think of losing one or more of our young pieces because we can't afford to keep the team together.

        What do you guys think? Will Roy take a reasonable contract in an effort to leave us with room to resign our other guys? Will his contract force us to have to not resign someone else?

        I have no doubt Roy wants to remain a Pacer. But at what cost to the team? That's the real question here.
        I understand where you are, but I think his history makes this a case of it is more important to see him keep it up than to not pay him Max.

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          Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

          Whatever it takes.

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            Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

            I won't worry until ESPN starts pushing there agenda with Roy. And at the rate he's playing, this could start in a matter of weeks. I can just see Chris Brousards stupid face on tv, talking about how his " sources" are telling him that Roy Hibbert wants to play with Deron Williams, or Kobe Bryant. This is what ESPN does. They use there shows to push propaganda in order to manipulate stars to the big market teams. They started on Dwight Howard like three years ago. They worked on Lebron for the longest time.

            Start panicking if ESPN starts politicking.

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              Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

              We have enough money to keep all of our core...we just can't get anybody else.

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                Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                How anyone can think that 10 million would be to much, even when the season started is beyond me, sorry but can you point out how many 7.2 centers are running around in the NBA with his skillset?

                Considering they clearly have not offered enough so far (the Pacers that is) I fear with great fear this could be Roy's last season for the Pacers.
                If he stays anywhere near his current output (and yes he can have some fallback and rise again) and someone forbid, he goes to the All-Star game, do you really think there wont be any teams out there throwing a max offer?

                Yes i know we can offer more, please don't use that argument, because we all know outside of the year the difference is at best the raises so on avergae over 4 years about 800k per season.
                We could have easily offered the 5th year now, paid a little below the max and have it wrapped up.
                Fact we haven't yet means that I am not so sure they are going to match what is on offer at the end of the season, or worse, that such an offer would be accepted.
                So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

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                Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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                  Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                  Roy Hibbert may not be quickly becoming a good center... But perhaps an every year All-Star.. I would say that he's having a better season than Al Horford had last year, and he's got sooo much time to get better.

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                    Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                    Not too worried, I still wished we would have signed him now and used this year's cap space to pay down on his contract. Could've easily saved 2-3 million a year for the next 4 years.
                    PG24: "Don't tell me the sky is the limit when there are footprints on the moon!"

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                      Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                      Originally posted by able View Post
                      Fact we haven't yet means that I am not so sure they are going to match what is on offer at the end of the season, or worse, that such an offer would be accepted.
                      We have a very astute front office. I believe the fact we haven't signed Roy to an extension is by design. If we sign Hilbert now, our cap space for next summer disappears all together, or there is very little left to sign a free agent next summer. However, if we sign a free agent first next summer, then we can still sign Hibbert and Hill to whatever next summer.

                      Without looking the figures up, say we are $13 million under the cap for next summer. Say Hibbert and Hill wind up costing us $15 million. If we sign them first, we are then $2m over the salary cap, and can't sign any big time free agents outright.

                      However, say next summer we first sign a free agent to all our salary cap of $13 million, since Hibbert and Hill are our players we can still sign them to the same $15 million they would get now.

                      By waiting we have money to sign free agents and keep our options open.

                      If it was some other player other than Hibbert, someone that wanted extended the second he could be extended or he would get really unhappy, then we could have a problem. As is I don't believe Hibbert is going anywhere.

                      Hibbert likes it here, and he can get paid the most money here, plus we are a young team on the rise with good chemistry. He also no doubt knows the Pacers take care of their players. Hibbert is a smart man, if the Pacers want him to wait, he will wait.

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                        Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                        I definitely love me some Roy but I would like to see him do what he's been doing a whole year before we start throwing the big bucks at him. Let's not forget he started out real strong last season. It was a little different because he seems more convincing this season and less soft, but here is a comparison between his first 15 games this season and his first 15 last season:

                        pergame...10-11...11-12
                        minutes....30:15---29:12
                        fg%.........48%-----54%
                        ft%..........79%-----62%
                        rebounds...9.6------9.9
                        asssists.....3--------2.1
                        blocks......2.1------1.5
                        points......16.1-----13.9

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                          Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                          Wil, surely you are not suggesting we are going to flirt with the LT are you?
                          And as I pointed out, it it just minimal outside the extra year (which we can offer now too) what we can offer more than others and ask yourself is it wise to take the 5th year to begin with ? A new contract on a 28 yr old 4 or 5 years more at the max, easy, a 29 yr old? psychological barrier there, he may be better off signing 4 yrs, hence sigining 5 now would be 4 in reality) would perhaps be more attractive.

                          To many factors, but the chances of him moving only increase, the don't get smaller, that is for sure.
                          So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

                          If you've done 6 impossible things today?
                          Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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                          • #14
                            I know we have more money to spend than we did the year we lost Brad Miller to the highest bidder, but letting Roy become a restricted free agent makes me a little nervous. The only reason an agent does not sign an extension is because he thinks his client can get big free agent money. Larry should be prepared to write that big check!

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                              Re: Falk says Roy, Pacers have "had very friendly discussions," but don't expect a deal until summer

                              Originally posted by TMJ31 View Post
                              What do you guys think? Will Roy take a reasonable contract in an effort to leave us with room to resign our other guys? Will his contract force us to have to not resign someone else?

                              I have no doubt Roy wants to remain a Pacer. But at what cost to the team? That's the real question here.
                              Roy will get every last dime that he can.

                              And it will be a lot of dimes.
                              "I had to take her down like Chris Brown."

                              -Lance Stephenson

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