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    With 5.4 seconds remaining in the Indiana-Golden State game on Jan. 20, Pacers guard George Hill intentionally kicked the ball away from Warriors guard Monta Ellis during his cross over dribble. According to rule no. 10, Section IV.b, kicking the ball or striking it with any part of the leg is a violation when it is an intentional act. The officials missed the kicked ball violation which should have resulted in a deadball situation and Golden State inbounding the ball on the sideline nearest the spot of the violation.
    The best view on this video is at :39.



    He definitely kicked the ball. I'm just surprised the NBA hasn't tried to revoke our win for it yet.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda!

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Then they should release a statement about the other ****ing calls they missed.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    "admits?" Do they need to admit something that was in plain sight?

    It was a blown no-call. It happens, and life goes on. The Pacers have been on the good end of it this season as often as they've been on the bad. People just tend to only notice the calls that go against them and ignore the favorable ones. It generally evens out for everyone.
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    anyone with eyes can see thats a kicked ball

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    To their credit, I thought the GSW announcers handled it very professionally. They cut the refs a little slack and maintained that bad breaks are part of the game.

    I was impressed they both saw the kicked ball in real time, without the benefit of replay.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    I guess I'm not sure why a press release is necessary. There are missed calls all the time, many of them in the closing seconds.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Did the NBA ever admit that the ref screwed up the LJ 4 point play foul?

    To be honest, that looks like a weak intentional kick, since Monta bounced it off George's foot to begin with.
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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    bet we get the shaft now for a good chunk of the upcoming games. no ref will want to be called out by the league on close calls so we're bound to get screwed somehow for this.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Not every foul was called last night. Calls are missed, oh well. We came out on the right side of this one.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    basket interference

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    To their credit, I thought the GSW announcers handled it very professionally. They cut the refs a little slack and maintained that bad breaks are part of the game.

    I was impressed they both saw the kicked ball in real time, without the benefit of replay.
    I think Jax screaming from the bench helped them reach the conclusion as well.

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    "admits?" Do they need to admit something that was in plain sight?

    It was a blown no-call. It happens, and life goes on. The Pacers have been on the good end of it this season as often as they've been on the bad. People just tend to only notice the calls that go against them and ignore the favorable ones. It generally evens out for everyone.
    This. Plus as others have mentioned there was the basket interference no-call that resulted in 2 Warriors points a few minutes earlier. There actually were quite a few no-calls in this game on both sides. The reffing was consistent on both ends throughout the game, which is about the most you can hope for.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Where was the press release after the Deng travel on Christmas Day at LA? It led to the Rose game winner. Blown calls are just an element to the game.

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    bet we get the shaft now for a good chunk of the upcoming games. no ref will want to be called out by the league on close calls so we're bound to get screwed somehow for this.
    Why are people so quick to make these ridiculous assumptions? I didn't see the Pacers get shafted after Dunleavy's (basket interference) game-winning tip last season.

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    Man seems like we spit against the wind all the time damn get a win and now it's a blown call whatever put a star in g3's position nothing said u can take that to the bank

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    Did the NBA ever admit that the ref screwed up the LJ 4 point play foul?

    To be honest, that looks like a weak intentional kick, since Monta bounced it off George's foot to begin with.
    The NBA admitted the LJ 4 point play was the wrong call later that summer. after the playoffs were over. Cost us a probable trip to the finals, it was a little more important than a game in the first 1/4 of a regular season. That will sting forever.



    If Hill did it intentionally he was sure sneaky good about it. In fast motion it's near impossible to tell IMO.
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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    I can't believe they made a official release on their lame referee non-call.

    Personally, I think it was a heck of a play and he dribbled it onto his foot to begin with, just Hill's response was incredible to pick his foot up as the ball hit it, which made it appear he kicked it. So after replay, the NBA still got it wrong!
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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    I guess what hurts the most about this is that they choose this instance , which happens to be the Pacers. There are many blown calls especially in the closing seconds, but the NBA didn't release a statement about them.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Why didn't they also admit Lee's basketball interference?

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    ...actually, the NBA releases statements about a lot of critical bad calls. It's just that nobody here notices.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    If George had nailed his feet to the floor there and they hadn't moved at all, that ball still would have hit his feet.

    Saying it's a "soccer play" is something of an overstatement, I think. It was a bad dribble by Monta.
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    ...actually, the NBA releases statements about a lot of critical bad calls. It's just that nobody here notices.
    I have never seen this kind of release on the neutral basketball forums I hang out. Then again I didn't see this release on that forum either so it probably could be something that never went past fan-specific forums.

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    Default Re: NBA "admits" that George Hill steal was kickball

    Here are two examples from last season's playoffs:

    Call against Rose in favor of the Hawks

    Call against Denver on Perkins' (OKC) goaltend

    **** happens. The refs missed one last night, and we benefited. Let's not play the victim here.

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    If George had nailed his feet to the floor there and they hadn't moved at all, that ball still would have hit his feet.

    Saying it's a "soccer play" is something of an overstatement, I think. It was a bad dribble by Monta.
    It was absolutely good tight defense by george, and shoddy ballhnadling by Ellis. One guy set himself up to be lucky, and the other guy set himself up to get screwed.

    That said, it was absolutely a violation, and if George's foot hadn't been kicking upward (intentional or not, who knows), that ball most likely rolls right off his foot and out of bounds about 15 feet backcourt.

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