I am really impressed with PG's three point shooting. It has to be over 50%. But what I really see potentially from Paul is his ability to shoot shots off the screen or pick as a jump shot. Anyone remember who made a career out of that. Coach Vogel needs to develope that as a offensive option. Danny cannot do that as he does not have the hops for that.
At the end of the day, we played like a team, and won as a team
Now I certainly wish a few things
- Roy would be a bit more aggressive. As Bill Walton would say "Throw it down by fella"
- Ray Allen can never be left wide open. Never. No excuses. NONE.
- Lastly, Danny seemed to want to make a play a few times and over dribbled instead of making a pass
- Which leads to part B. If he is in a slump, why keep running an iso for him. Why not a PNR where he can set a teammate up.
At the end of the day, they won.
Also, like Trade Joe said, I loved seeing Granger so into the game. From just reading this message board I would think he was done with NBA basketball. From my point of view he realizes he needs to snap out of this funk, and like Reggie used to do I hope he can shoot himself out of it sooner rather then later.
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I'll give Jeff the game ball... stats dont tell the story on how he effected the game last night.
Offensive rebounds, good defense, and most importantly IMHO good hard SMART fouls. Every time Boston looked to make a momentum turning play in Q3, Jeff was in the paint taking his man out of the play with a good hard SMART foul. I thought he really had one hell of a game.
Props to Danny too, although I've been b*tching about him a lot lately... he showed heart and emotion last night. I have a feeling his shot is going to start falling now... don't know why really, I just get a feeling that he's gonna have a big game tonight against the Bobcats.
Props to DC too.... best game I've seen him play in ... well, it might be the best complete game I've ever seen him play for us.
And... Paul George.... he's got some learnin to do still... but he's gonna be nearly unguardable if he keeps improving, he's shooting 3s like a Reggie Miller/Ray Allen love child. Every one he lets fly is freakin money.
After the disaster in Miami it's great to see the team bounce back with that performance.... welcome to the emotional roller coaster AKA Pacer Basketball.
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Everybody has to remember that Lance is a 21 year old 2nd year player. It isn't like he is a wasted talent on the end of the bench. I mean the guy will have plenty of time to develop and he's approaching almost half the minutes he got the entire season last year.
Next year Price will be let go and Lance can get a longer more structured training camp along with a good amount of preseason minutes. I am not too worried about Lance at this point.
THIS is why Tyler is my favorite Pacer. I'm willing to accept all of his shortcomings, because he adds a toughness/swagger to this team that we haven't had since Dale Davis. Vogel said it best...nobody wants to play Tyler.
I feel like our whole team flips a switch when Tyler steps on the floor, how could you not give more effort when you see that guy going 110% on every play?
I also think Dahntay Jones has similar qualities...just from an attitude/demeanor stand point. I'll take these kinds of players on my team ALL DAY LONG!
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Hansbrough, Joel Anthony, and Derrick Favors are the only three players over 100 minutes played without one yet.
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“People talk about how quiet he [McKey] is, but he’s really been helpful. He gives a lot of insight to players in how to guard certain teams and what their weaknesses are. The whole team listens to him, and it makes my job a lot easier. Having players like him is what pro basketball is all about for me.” —Larry Brown
When was the last time the Pacers had a team that could play 'badly' on a given night and still walk away with a win? When was the last time the Pacers didn't have to be nearly perfect to beat one of the league's supposed "elite" teams?
I honestly wonder if the last time was in the Reggie Miller twilight years.
What I wonder is: is this team able to do that because the talent level is better, or because the coaching is better? Or is it both? Or something else?
It's great that we have the will to tough out those games - and you're right, it has been some time since we had that kind of fortitude - but we will NOT be able to continue like this for more than another week at most before we start being passed up b y teams that have settled in.
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This reminds me a lot of that start. Our offense looked as bad then. Hopefully we'll have different results this time but the schedule will be tough.
We're tough, we rebound, we play hard, we play defense every night, these things are pretty consistent, with effort, which seems to be a constant with this team.
Given our current messy offense i'd wager that we have more room to improve than alot of other teams that we'll be competing against all year long. David West and Hill are huge contributors and rotation players we're working in, while most other contenders for spots we want (miami, chicago, philidelphia, boston, orlando) are much more intact from last year rotation-wise than we are.
We have nowhere to go but up. Heck if Danny was just playing average on offense, not to mention West we would be beating every single team by like 15+ points (sans miami)
That's whats awesome about this team now, our effort and defense should be pretty consistent, which shots aren't (evidenced by our lovely offensive performences so far this season.
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