I would drop DJ's minutes to about 10mpg depending on who we are playing. If we are playing a team like Miami obviously DJ gets more minutes because we need his defense.
I agree Lance need to play with either with AJ or Hill and more importantly not with DJ. DJ with Lance his a bad combo just in general neither one can shoot from range and both ball dominate. Paul and Lance would be ideal at wings if Lance is playing a wing.
Boston sucks and they are too old. Not sure why they are even trying to compete. Trade Garnett and Pierce they too old and slow.
Paul George's 3-ball has just become incredible and ridiculous. It HAS to fall back down to earth, by my God...! And he just looks so comfortable taking it, spot up or catch and shoot.
One of the 3 I think you're attributing to Paul was a situation where he was covering for someone else and they never got back to their own man to help Paul be allowed to get free to go back. I only saw two.
David West looked very frustrated, not just with the flow of the game, but his team mates too. It seemed like he was getting mad that people couldn't be in the right spots or make the right passes. But hell, we won! I think things will get smoother as they play more (I hope).
The Pacers defense was good, but Boston was also horrible tonight. There were ALOT of open looks that Paul Pierce and the rest of the team will not miss very often.
JO played great D, he had some incredible blocks. I smirked at his fade away baseline jumper attempt early in the game.
I was really hoping someone would knock Rondo on his *** for that showboating layup. Paul George almost got there too.
DC doesn't see the open guys very well. There were multiple times we had guys in front of the D ready for the sweet dime and easy layup that he missed, but the dude can really find his spots and hit the jumpers. I want him to look to score when they are playing tough teams that have the passing lanes on lock down.
Paul George has a bit of Reggie in him. I'd love to see us start running him off screens for open jumpers like that one play we saw tonight. Was that designed or accidental? Either way it was smooth.
Last edited by PaceBalls; 01-07-2012 at 03:08 AM.
We have a team that had a winning record under a new coach last season... Who played very well in the playoffs against the MVP and the team with the most regular season victories... Subtracted terrible contracts and 1 good rotation player while adding 3 good rotation players... 2 of which are starter level players in the L... We are seeing development from every core young player remaining on the team from last year... We are 5-2 with our top scorer shooting like crap and a still developing team offense... And we are a top 5 defensive team...
We are legitimately on the same level or higher than Atlanta (who also got beat by the Heat only without BOTH LeBron and DWade), Orlando, New York, Boston, and Philadelphia in the East... Are those teams not playing to win right now?
I'm not saying don't play him period... I'm saying don't play him as a primary backup out of his natural position in front of someone that makes more sense... There's always garbage time... Or a chance to prove himself if someone gets injured or starts to play like crap... Like most second round draft picks prove their talent... Like AJ proved his talent... And even if we don't see him play much this year we could still pick up his option with very little cap impact next year and he can continue to try to prove his worth... If he's not worth it he's filling out a 14th/15th roster spot at worst...
I like AJ at PG much better than Lance. I know he has potential but I'd rather see AJ play. I want to trust Larry about Lance's ability but it's hard to do sometimes.
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they arent my desires they are Larry's who is kind of in charge. Like I said I would play Price with Lance at the SF or SG. Hill is gonna be the primary backup pg also that again is how Larry and the organization view him.
It is pretty clear Larry doesn't view Price as part of the future IMO that isnt fair to Price but that is the truth.
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I swear people in this thread are certainly impressed with AJ's 2 points and 2 assists in 15 minutes. Those are some really low standards. Is there another player on this team who would get praise for that stat-line?
I don't have anything against AJ, but i still think you guys are rooting against Lance more than anything, except Sookie (I know he's your boy). There was someone in the game thread saying Aj was better than DC because of 1 lob, its just silly.
Last edited by spazzxb; 01-07-2012 at 03:45 AM.
You think all we care about is the stat line?
But let's look at this for a min. We are 10 deep per Hubie and we are young and talented per many other national media figures.
Does West & Hill make all of the difference? They certainly are huge upgrades, without a doubt.
But even if they weren't here with a first round pick and either Josh or another player added to at the four I think most would still be saying this about us.
The point is, the vast majority of the players who are part of that 10 deep roster where here last season when Satan proclaimed we were not good enough.
The biggest single difference in the Indiana Pacers is not the players, it is in the coaching.
Not having your power forward be an old out of shape small forward or having it so that your point guard really never handles the ball but only facilitates bringing the ball up the court and dumping it off and then primarly being a score will tend to change the makeup of a club.
Having it so that your power forwards and center are around the rim and everybody driving to the basket instead of taking the first open shot available will change the makeup of a club.
Leading the league in free throw attempts instead of being dead last will also dramatically change the makeup of the club.
We are young, we are talented, but we were last season as well. I'm not discounting the additions of Hill & West I'm just saying that Vogel is far far far far far far to the infinte number squared better than O'Brien.
I give credit to Vogel for not only playing but starting Paul George and I give blame to O'Brien who actually had him in street clothes for several games last season.
But I do credit the players with taking advantage of the situation.
I blame O'Brien for the Economic Crisis. And high gas prices.
And for Teen Mom.