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    Hindsight is always 20/20 but it seems like we would have been wise to ship Granger off after his lone All-Star season
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    Shhh...you can't say mean things about Danny Granger.

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    Default Re: Wow, So the word is out apparently?

    NBA players are scouted every game they play. The word on the street about Granger, whatever the hell it is, has been out there for some time. Was even out there during the AS season.

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    He may very well be. However, if EJ is going to leave, Hornets may not get full value.

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    Default Re: Wow, So the word is out apparently?

    I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Gordon is better than Granger.

    In the big picture, I think Danny's stock has dropped (and continues to do so) around the league. Hell, right now, he's a scorer who can't score.

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    Shhh...you can't say mean things about Danny Granger.
    You certainly can't pretend like a wells opinion tweet has value. If wells says someone is injured, its valuable. When Wells gets into opinions he is a total Drama queen. He might be right in this case.

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    Oh well, Granger is good on this team right now. I don't care what other teams think. Gordon is a better scorer than Danny, but he also plays on bad teams. We have a better team than NO anyway.

    It will be funny either this summer or next when they lose Gordon.

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    I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Gordon is better than Granger.

    In the big picture, I think Danny's stock has dropped (and continues to do so) around the league. Hell, right now, he's a scorer who can't score.
    I have to agree, but I suspect Jim O'Brien has something to do with it. Granger really is a good shooter from 3.

    He just doesn't know how to play basketball....

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    I thought it was pretty common knowledge that Gordon is better than Granger.

    In the big picture, I think Danny's stock has dropped (and continues to do so) around the league. Hell, right now, he's a scorer who can't score.
    He is like the new Richard Jefferson.

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    Not like I hadn't been saying that for years or anything... Shoot I even got banned for it.

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    The word is probably even still out about his foot problem (to my knowledge, the torn plantar fascia doesn't ever actually heal, and as a result of that his foot no longer provides nearly as much push or stability as a normal foot does) and that is likely proving detrimental to his shot and quickness at this point.

    Anyone who has medical knowledge, feel free to correct this, because I would like to be wrong about it.

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    Shhh...you can't say mean things about Danny Granger.
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    The word is probably even still out about his foot problem (to my knowledge, the torn plantar fascia doesn't ever actually heal, and as a result of that his foot no longer provides nearly as much push or stability as a normal foot does) and that is likely proving detrimental to his shot and quickness at this point.

    Anyone who has medical knowledge, feel free to correct this, because I would like to be wrong about it.
    What does his foot have to do with his brain? I'm just saying...

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    Hindsight is always 20/20 but it seems like we would have been wise to ship Granger off after his lone All-Star season

    Looks like Mike Wells doesn't understand how to use the term "MO" correctly. That's what it looks like to me.

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    The word is probably even still out about his foot problem (to my knowledge, the torn plantar fascia doesn't ever actually heal, and as a result of that his foot no longer provides nearly as much push or stability as a normal foot does) and that is likely proving detrimental to his shot and quickness at this point.

    Anyone who has medical knowledge, feel free to correct this, because I would like to be wrong about it.
    I'm not sure but I think his bones are also old .......

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    He may very well be. However, if EJ is going to leave, Hornets may not get full value.
    The Hornets can match whatever offer he gets from another team. The only way he can really leave is if the Hornets trade him out of their own will, or decide not to match an offer. The latter being a highly unlikely scenario.

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    NBA players are scouted every game they play. The word on the street about Granger, whatever the hell it is, has been out there for some time. Was even out there during the AS season.
    What???

    I thought TNT was only shown in my house? You're telling me I'm not the only one with EXCLUSIVE viewing rights to NBA TV?? Hurumpff, that's a bunch of

    How the F is Bird going to fleece the league if they keep letting scouts for other teams watch the games. Forget scouts, my understanding is that mom's of the GM's of other teams are even allowed to get a peak at players from other teams in action.


    (it does say "now with extra sarcasm" )




    He just doesn't know how to play basketball....
    BnG - I get the "everyone blames JOB" jab, but let's be fair here. If I told you that Danny could have spent the last 4 years being coached by JOB or Popovich/Sloan/Phil/Carlisle/etc, you'd never go with the JOB option. Danny was in a period of his career where a crafty coach could have shown him ways to succeed and/or motivated him to improve the proper aspects of his game.

    3 years of Pat Riley instead of JOB would have Danny playing a much tougher, skillful defensive game, for example.

    It's true that it's also on the players, but your work environment is going to play a big factor in the type of player you become. You can't develop everything all at once.

    Danny learned to play a certain type of NBA game and got pretty "good" at it. At the very least he learned out to take twice as many 3s per game as Reggie Miller used to.

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    The Hornets can match whatever offer he gets from another team. The only way he can really leave is if the Hornets trade him out of their own will, or decide not to match an offer. The latter being a highly unlikely scenario.
    but, EJ does'nt have to sign anything and become a FA in 2013. Then Hornets have no rope and EJ can leave. Just alittle over a year away.

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    People on here must really miss Jim O'Brien considering how much obession there is over him.

    It's quite pathetic.
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    What???

    I thought TNT was only shown in my house? You're telling me I'm not the only one with EXCLUSIVE viewing rights to NBA TV?? Hurumpff, that's a bunch of

    How the F is Bird going to fleece the league if they keep letting scouts for other teams watch the games. Forget scouts, my understanding is that mom's of the GM's of other teams are even allowed to get a peak at players from other teams in action.


    (it does say "now with extra sarcasm" )





    BnG - I get the "everyone blames JOB" jab, but let's be fair here. If I told you that Danny could have spent the last 4 years being coached by JOB or Popovich/Sloan/Phil/Carlisle/etc, you'd never go with the JOB option. Danny was in a period of his career where a crafty coach could have shown him ways to succeed and/or motivated him to improve the proper aspects of his game.

    3 years of Pat Riley instead of JOB would have Danny playing a much tougher, skillful defensive game, for example.

    It's true that it's also on the players, but your work environment is going to play a big factor in the type of player you become. You can't develop everything all at once.

    Danny learned to play a certain type of NBA game and got pretty "good" at it. At the very least he learned out to take twice as many 3s per game as Reggie Miller used to.
    speculation at best

    If the desire to be a great player is there, then it doesn't matter if your coached by Larry Brown or Bobby Brown
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    speculation at best

    If the desire to be a great player is there, then it doesn't matter if your coached by Larry Brown or Bobby Brown
    I wish that Bobby Brown WAS coaching the Miami game, so I could at least explain away all the traveling calls we got.


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    I wish that Bobby Brown WAS coaching the Miami game, so I could at least explain away all the traveling calls we got.

    LOL, not 3 bobbys

    man thats some good crack right there
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    BnG - I get the "everyone blames JOB" jab, but let's be fair here. If I told you that Danny could have spent the last 4 years being coached by JOB or Popovich/Sloan/Phil/Carlisle/etc, you'd never go with the JOB option. Danny was in a period of his career where a crafty coach could have shown him ways to succeed and/or motivated him to improve the proper aspects of his game.

    3 years of Pat Riley instead of JOB would have Danny playing a much tougher, skillful defensive game, for example.

    It's true that it's also on the players, but your work environment is going to play a big factor in the type of player you become. You can't develop everything all at once.

    Danny learned to play a certain type of NBA game and got pretty "good" at it. At the very least he learned out to take twice as many 3s per game as Reggie Miller used to.
    This is one of those uncomfortable truths, isn't it? When I posted that, I put a smiley but that's because I couldn't locate a frown.

    I do believe that Danny's growth as a complete basketball player was stunted due to Jim O'Brien being his coach during his key developmental years. Danny improved his shooting most definitely. With a couple exceptions, I don't think he's improved much else and there's almost no doubt he regressed on defense during Jim's tenure.

    I'm not convinced this is all on Jim though. I do believe a player can take upon himself to get better. Yet I also believe the system he plays in and what the coach emphasizes really does matter. As in all things, practice makes perfect and it takes time, effort and focus to develop and retain skills.

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    This is one of those uncomfortable truths, isn't it? When I posted that, I put a smiley but that's because I couldn't locate a frown.

    I do believe that Danny's growth as a complete basketball player was stunted due to Jim O'Brien being his coach during his key developmental years. Danny improved his shooting most definitely. With a couple exceptions, I don't think he's improved much else and there's almost no doubt he regressed on defense during Jim's tenure.

    I'm not convinced this is all on Jim though. I do believe a player can take upon himself to get better. Yet I also believe the system he plays in and what the coach emphasizes really does matter. As in all things, practice makes perfect and it takes time, effort and focus to develop and retain skills.
    well said BNG, its a combination of both
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    This is one of those uncomfortable truths, isn't it? When I posted that, I put a smiley but that's because I couldn't locate a frown.

    I do believe that Danny's growth as a complete basketball player was stunted due to Jim O'Brien being his coach during his key developmental years. Danny improved his shooting most definitely. With a couple exceptions, I don't think he's improved much else and there's almost no doubt he regressed on defense during Jim's tenure.

    I'm not convinced this is all on Jim though. I do believe a player can take upon himself to get better. Yet I also believe the system he plays in and what the coach emphasizes really does matter. As in all things, practice makes perfect and it takes time, effort and focus to develop and retain skills.
    If Danny had decided to become a defensive stopper instead of working on his shooting, who much would he have played? Serious question. Most players can't play amazing on both sides of the ball, if they are expected to play a ton of minutes. They've got to have a break somewhere. (I mean, they can play good on one end, and great on the other.) So..if Granger only takes 8 shots a game but becomes the best defensive player on the team, does he play? Because ultimately, players are motivated by that too.

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