League average FG% for fowards last year (20mins or more a game)? 47.2%
Tyler Hansbrough FG% for last year? 46.5%
Tyler is just about average. But yeah, let's pretend he's downright awful and then get our panties in a bunch every opportunity.
Well he certainly can't play a wing position, so there is no reason why you should have used all forwards when it allows you to break it further down to power forwards only. When you do that, there are 51 guys.
Using straight field goal percentage, he is 35th on the list. That means that 69% of the power forwards that played 20 minutes a game shot better than he did. So no, he's really not about average.
Using eFG%, he's 44th out of 51. So the fact that he shoots a below average percentage, while not being able to shoot 3's makes it even worse.
Perhaps if John Hollinger wasn't mad that Tyler is a Pacer and McRoberts isn't, he wouldn't have felt the need to point out Tyler's shot selection. Obviously there is nothing that would indicate he has any improving to do in that area. Clearly, that was an unprovoked attack in his chat session that he only wrote because he loves to bash Hansbrough.
The topic of conversations isn't about John Hollinger's constant infatuation with bashing Tyler. It's about you.
Cdash has already asked you, who on this team do you even like? Since Josh has been gone, I don't think you've said one positive word about a Pacers player. It would certainly be a rare exception, if you did.
When you come into every freaking thread and ***** constantly about the same players and the same issues, it get's rather annoying.
It's the same thing we went over the NO trade. I understand that people think I argue things into the ground, but ****, atleast I don't hijack multiple threads in order to do so.
It's like Tyler had sex with your mom or something. It's borderline obessive. You should just put something in your signature about Tyler. That way every time you post, you can get your potshots in.
It was about a Hollinger chat, and the only Pacers discussion in the entire chat was about Hansbrough's shot selection. Maybe we shouldn't discuss it, since it was a negative aspect that he brought up. We must only discuss the positive.
This team is awesome!!! World Champs!!! Go Pacers!!!
Also, my mother is a saint.
I got a chance to watch each of Tyler's FGAs from Miami, NJ, and Det last night (didn't get to go back further at the time), and really most of his attempts were fine; only occasionally did I think he forced it badly or could have passed.
I need to watch them all to feel more sure about it, but what I did watch generally goes with my previous thoughts on his attempts: A lot of them come at a point in the play where he probably SHOULD try to score because of where/when he got it and because he's out there TO BE A SCORER.
Doesn't mean he isn't playing poorly, it just means he's playing poorly, for the most part, within the context of what I believe the team wants him to do and what he generally does best.
Roy Hibbert who, while maddeningly inconsistent, works his *** off and really cares about helping the team win, regardless of what his numbers look like.
Paul George who has a chance to be the best player that this franchise has ever known in the NBA era.
George Hill has shown the tools and desire to be an elite defender.
David West has always been a favorite of mine. I love his game. Didn't think he was a great fit in this lineup, but he's so good that he can fit in anywhere, and the price was right.
The pony-tailed weirdo looked like a guy who is going to be growing on me quickly. He played well Wednesday night.
I appreciate what Kobe Jones brings to the table, even if his offensive game makes me want to puke.
So lots of them.
I'm gonna speak up for Mackey here, he gets this rep as someone who openly hates the Pacers or something, but I think it's just because he doesn't care for a lot of the guys who are talked about quite a bit on this board as lightning rods for discussion (Lance, Tyler, and Danny). Particularly Lance and Tyler carry a large portion of the boards discussions.
“People talk about how quiet he [McKey] is, but he’s really been helpful. He gives a lot of insight to players in how to guard certain teams and what their weaknesses are. The whole team listens to him, and it makes my job a lot easier. Having players like him is what pro basketball is all about for me.” —Larry Brown
Lies, Damn Lies, then Statistics. Stats can be used to prove almost any point for or against depending on what your agenda is.
The only thing I care about is does the player help the team. Anyone that has seen Tyler play for the Pacers since Vogel took over would have to say he is a positive contributor when he is on the floor most of the time. Tyler has helped us win, PERIOD, how can anyone watching deny that.
Do I want him to shoot better? get an assist ever now and then? wish he would turn into Kevin Love? of course.
"Just look at the flowers ...."
I wonder what an advanced statistical analysis of Mackey's posts would reveal. If he can use Hansbrough's fg% amongst his peers to support labeling him bad, surely we can use the subject matter, tone, and assertions of his posts compared to his peers to designate him, statistically, a hater.