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    This guy looks lost out there. His shots are flat. I'm not even sure he's shooting above 30%fg. He gets the ball and literally dribbles in circles. When he passes to outside shooters, they are bad passes that take the shooter out of rhythm. He's a turnover machine and way to inconsistent on defense.

    I've never seen a guys game fall off the map like this.

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    I don't think Granger kept himself in great shape during the lockout. When guys are consistently short on their shots, usually their legs are tired or have given out of them a little. He has been pretty miserable this season, there's no way around it. I think he will get better, but I honestly think he is playing his way into shape. He doesn't need to be benched, that would create all sorts of problems that we don't need. He needs to just play through it and be more selective with his shots.

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    Default Re: Granger needs to be benched

    Won't happen, but damn...I'm officially concerned about him. Usually he gets fired up for Lebron. Tonight...nothing.

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    I don't think Granger kept himself in great shape during the lockout. When guys are consistently short on their shots, usually their legs are tired or have given out of them a little. He has been pretty miserable this season, there's no way around it. I think he will get better, but I honestly think he is playing his way into shape. He doesn't need to be benched, that would create all sorts of problems that we don't need. He needs to just play through it and be more selective with his shots.
    He probably did the same thing he does every off season.

    Doesn't he play bad in pretty much every preseason he plays in? That suggests this isn't atypical. it's just different because these games count. We'd still be in preseason if this was a regular season.

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    I think we need to stop forcing him to be somebody that he is not, why not just let him park by the 3 point line when he is really good at doing it? Why keep forcing him to dribble? We already have enough scorers inside.

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    He probably did the same thing he does every off season.

    Doesn't he play bad in pretty much every preseason he plays in? That suggests this isn't atypical. it's just different because these games count. We'd still be in preseason if this was a regular season.
    Tonight would have technically been the last "preseason" game from a numbers perspective (8 games played), but if he's gonna be this for a full month (normally preseason is all of Oct), we're in deep ****.

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    Used to love Danny back in the MIP days, but anymore it just hurts me to watch him shoot the ball.
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    I think we need to stop forcing him to be somebody that he is not, why not just let him park by the 3 point line when he is really good at doing it? Why keep forcing him to dribble? We already have enough scorers inside.
    We aren't paying him 12 million a year to be a glorified James Jones, that's why.

    Not sure what's wrong with him, but his shot looks awful these days. Maybe it's just taking him a while to get his legs back and in playing shape.

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    Used to love Danny back in the MIP days, but anymore it just hurts me to watch him shoot the ball.
    He still has it in him. He's clearly in a funk right now though. He needs to show the type of intensity he did in the playoffs.

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    All I keep asking myself is, "Is this the same guy that put up 22 PPG on 48% shooting against Luol Deng and the defensive minded Bulls in the playoffs?" I mean seriously, that was the best Danny had looked offensively in 2 years and now this is the worst he has looked...ever.

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    We aren't paying him 12 million a year to be a glorified James Jones, that's why.

    Not sure what's wrong with him, but his shot looks awful these days. Maybe it's just taking him a while to get his legs back and in playing shape.
    A lot of players do pretty well in the NBA by shooting 3's, Ray Allen is one example, at this moment we don't have anybody that could stretch the floor why not let Danny be that guy? I think is hard for Danny to dribble inside when you have a bunch of defender clogging the paint because West and Roy are inside.

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    I'd be all for benching him, but who do you start at SF then?

    Lance? Dahntay? George? If George, who's at 2? Hill?

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    A lot of players do pretty well in the NBA by shooting 3's, Ray Allen is one example, at this moment we don't have anybody that could stretch the floor why not let Danny be that guy? I think is hard for Danny to dribble inside when you have a bunch of defender clogging the paint because West and Roy are inside.
    Cause he can't make a shot?

    I agree, he needs to stop dribbling, and learn how to post up. That's where his trips to the line need to come from.

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    A lot of players do pretty well in the NBA by shooting 3's, Ray Allen is one example, at this moment we don't have anybody that could stretch the floor why not let Danny be that guy? I think is hard for Danny to dribble inside when you have a bunch of defender clogging the paint because West and Roy are inside.
    I think it's hard for him to dribble inside because he's just not that good of a ballhandler. How many years have they supposedly been working on him driving the ball and creating his own offense? Where is the improvement?
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    A lot of players do pretty well in the NBA by shooting 3's, Ray Allen is one example, at this moment we don't have anybody that could stretch the floor why not let Danny be that guy? I think is hard for Danny to dribble inside when you have a bunch of defender clogging the paint because West and Roy are inside.
    Ray Allen is also incredibly good at moving without the basketball, running off screens, and can also shoot off the dribble. He doesn't just park at the three point line. If we want that player, I'm sure the Bulls would trade us Korver for Granger.
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    Default Re: Granger needs to be benched

    I think many of you are caught in the emotional vortex of the NBA season. Albeit a shorter condensed season, but we have yet to put in 20% of that season.

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    I wish we ran plays for him like we would if we had a younger Peja in his place. Catch and shoot, baby.

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    Danny will be fine. He has not shot the ball well, and he rarely has been driving to the hoop but he is what he is. I think adding DW and GH will pay off for Danny in the long run. I don't think benching Danny would be a positive thing in the players morale as well.

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    I wish we ran plays for him like we would if we had a younger Peja in his place. Catch and shoot, baby.
    The problem is Granger isn't that good at getting himself open.

    I have to be honest, I agree with what some other have said. He's really not that bright of a player.

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    Danny will be fine. He has not shot the ball well, and he rarely has been driving to the hoop but he is what he is. I think adding DW and GH will pay off for Danny in the long run. I don't think benching Danny would be a positive thing in the players morale as well.
    This.

    He always goes through a couple cold spells throughout the course of a season. I think he'll get back on track next game.

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    Wow, this place is losing their minds just like when we had the 6 game losing streak last year. Everyone was OMG OMG OMG WE SUCK FIRE VOGEL AND WE CAN NEVER MAKE THE PLAYOFFS OMG OMG!!!

    Then what happened? Sheesh.

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    We still don't run any plays or even sets for him. Too much of it is like, "Here, Danny. You were an All Star that year before, do something." I've seen that Roy at the high post dump-down to Danny on the low block maybe once or twice. How hard would it be to run a pick and roll with DC and Fluff with PG and DG spreading the floor and Roy fighting for position on the opposite low block. Vogel has not used Danny well. Obviously, it doesn't help that he is currently shooting with the accuracy of a stormtrooper.

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    I think we need to stop forcing him to be somebody that he is not, why not just let him park by the 3 point line when he is really good at doing it? Why keep forcing him to dribble? We already have enough scorers inside.
    Nobody is forcing him to do anything. He thinks he is the man on the team so when they rally for a come back he feels he has to shove up bad shot after bad shot. He has and always will throw off the off. rhythm imo

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    Nobody is forcing him to do anything. He thinks he is the man on the team so when they rally for a come back he feels he has to shove up bad shot after bad shot. He has and always will throw off the off. rhythm imo
    so danny granger is going against the coach's instructions now? great. in addition to being a chucker, the dumbest nba player that lived, and a lazy-*** good for nothing who does not play defense, he also does not respect his coach.

    TRADE GRANGER

    in all seriousness, the dude is playing horribly right now. i am sincerely hoping it's just a cold spell for him, because prior to the miami game his shot selection was very good (at least similar to the playoffs), he just wasn't making his shots.

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    Terrible shot selection year after year after year... I can't take it anymore.

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