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    Coming from you, it doesn't mean much. You are the single most negative person on this board.
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    I'm not even worried. This isn't the same team you will see later this season. It just isn't. I'm not one to put blinders on either. We have more talent on this team than we've had in years. Granger, who was supposedly an all-star scored 6 points on 2-13 or something. It was a bad game and bad games happen. Granger, as bad as he is, isn't that bad...
    I'm a Danny fan, but he is having a hell of a time getting quality shots the way he is used to. The dude looks like he has forgot how to play. Too many forearm shimmies and bull dozing his way into the lane. I can call an offensive foul on him almost every time he drives. Just like I can call it when DJones wants to try and go in and dunk the ball.

    Apparently Granger benefits greatly from a real training camp, cause his game does not look very polished.
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    So, that's what a colonoscopy feels like.

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    Hopefully this will be the worst game the Pacers play this year... Sometimes it's a lot easier to watch other teams play cause when they get beat this badly, I just sit back and enjoy their embarrassment. But when it's the Pacers getting schooled, it really hurts..
    Nah, I just turned over to watch the Bobcats/Knicks game, then surf back to the Pacers during timeouts. It was an enjoyable game with the Bobcats winning. I enjoy watching a team with little talent beating the Big 3 type teams.

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    So, that's what a colonoscopy feels like.
    At least when they do a colonoscopy they use lube.

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    I'm sorry for not trying to be a sunshiner here but been a realistic and yes this has already happened againts a crappy team, how about Detroit? the team that you keep saying that sucks and won't make the playoffs?


    edit: I also like to think is funny for you and other people to be the "freakout police" "if they get served another sound beatdown then we start to worry a little" a OK thanks for letting us know when to do it
    You aren't realistic. You are negative. There's a huge difference between the two.

    Detroit didn't blow us out. We lost. This is the NBA, not college. The talent levels are not so drastically different that it's a shock that any team should lose to any other. Especially a division rival, on their home court, when the players were working on probably about 4 hours of sleep.

    I'll continue to be the freakout police when you are leading the charge in freaking out after every loss on the schedule. Someone has to balance things out.

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    Pacers completely forgot their team's M.O. Smash mouth defense and rebounding. Pacers are probably going to score in the 80's all year long, but let the Miami role players walk to the rim and they completely lost their man on the perimeter. When Bosh is able to catch the ball infront of the rim and Hibbert just stares as he gets an easy layup.....turrible.

    They forgot to make the extra pass, 12 Asts, and to hold on to the ball, 23 TO's.

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    I'm a Danny fan, but he is having a hell of a time getting quality shots the way he is used to. The dude looks like he has forgot how to play. Too many forearm shimmies and bull dozing his way into the lane. I can call an offensive foul on him almost every time he drives. Just like I can call it when DJones wants to try and go in and dunk the ball.

    Apparently Granger benefits greatly from a real training camp, cause his game does not look very polished.
    Let's just say that Danny should never be driving to the bucket. The team just needs to learn how to pass the ball. You could see they were trying it at the beginning of the second half and it helped a bit. They just don't have it down yet. Guys who should be driving include GHill, Collison, Lance, DJ (when he's in), Price and maybe Paul at times. Danny really should be used to stretch the floor. I feel dirty saying that since I hate JOb ball.

    Really, I think Vogel is trying to go to the rack as much as possible but some players don't have that skill. Unlike Jim, I expect Frank to learn from that.

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    What? Have you heard mackey rose?
    Oh yes. Mackey has an irrational hatred for most of the players, but actually has some logic behind his posts when they aren't involving the awful Granger/Hansbrough/Collison/Foster foursome.

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    You should. If this was the 3rd or 4th year under Vogel and we kept seeing bad basketball....

    Yes, it looks like a horror film out there. It literally looked like our guys were blindfolded they looked so bad. But what happened tonight will not happen once this team starts finding it's way. If the team didn't have talent, well, then I'd be worried.
    3rd or 4th year? I don't think Vogel will finish the season if the next 20 games are no better then the last 6, let alone a 3rd or 4th year!

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    I really don't want to be negative. However, The game play of the Pacers has nothing to do with the Heat. It's just the Heat are good enough to exploit it. The Pacers played no better or worse then any other game they have played this season. They just won some cause the teams they played are as bad or worse then the Pacers. This isn't saying much for the Pacers at this point.

    I only hope for better game days for the Pacers!
    They played much worse tonight than they have any other game this season.

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    You aren't realistic. You are negative. There's a huge difference between the two.

    Detroit didn't blow us out. We lost. This is the NBA, not college. The talent levels are not so drastically different that it's a shock that any team should lose to any other. Especially a division rival, on their home court, when the players were working on probably about 4 hours of sleep.

    I'll continue to be the freakout police when you are leading the charge in freaking out after every loss on the schedule. Someone has to balance things out.
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    [QUOTE=BlueNGold;1337537]I'm not even worried. This isn't the same team you will see later this season. It just isn't. I'm not one to put blinders on either. We have more talent on this team than we've had in years. Granger, who was supposedly an all-star scored 6 points on 2-13 or something. It was a bad game and bad games happen. Granger, as bad as he is, isn't that bad...[/QUOTE

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    FG5 Stats seem to indicate a downward trend. Dosn't really give me hope that he is going to miraculously turn it around any time soon.

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    They played much worse tonight than they have any other game this season.
    I'm not sure about that, they were just lucky that the other teams were just as horrible at shooting the ball, reason why we still won some games even though we shot under 40%.

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    Oh yes. Mackey has an irrational hatred for most of the players, but actually has some logic behind his posts when they aren't involving the awful Granger/Hansbrough/Collison/Foster foursome.
    Is it illogical to expect a team's best player to not be the worst player on the floor?

    Is it illogical to expect a power forward to shoot better than 35% from the field?

    Is it illogical to expect a point guard to get his teammates involved in the offense, and at least pretend to give a damn on the defensive end?

    Is it illogical to expect a guy who as been overpaid multiple times by the same team to suit up for a game every now and then?

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    No coincidence that our mini-comeback was thwarted when we took out DC.
    I criticize DC plenty, but he deserves plenty of credit this game, and in general for his play this season so far. It's weird but now I get worried when he checks out of the game.

    I really wish we'd play Hill exclusively at off guard, at least for a while. The Hill at PG experiment is not working. Play AJ, trade for another point guard, sign someone from the D-League, I don't know. But we badly need another playmaker.

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    The fact is we haven't played well this season. I think we can all agree on that. There are plenty of excuses to make, and plenty of blame to go around. Miami killed us tonight, they are a great team. Is it time to start to go into panic mode? No, I don't think so. If this had happened against some crappy team, then we could be worried. But it was the Heat, in Miami, and in the NBA games like this happen. Let's see how they respond in Boston. If they get served another sound beatdown, then we start to worry a little more.

    I agree if they don't respond in the Boston game then it's time to start wondering about this team. I'm interested in seeing how they re-act in that game.

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    They played much worse tonight than they have any other game this season.
    No, they are about par, just played a better offensive team that the defense couldn't stop. offense was par.

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    3rd or 4th year? I don't think Vogel will finish the season if the next 20 games are no better then the last 6, let alone a 3rd or 4th year!
    I think Frank is re-working everything. This is the only time it can be done. If that were not the case, they would be playing better, basically doing what they did last season...making it to the playoffs under Vogel. But he's not having them do the same things. It's a process and some here have the patience to enjoy seeing the changes appear. Others just want to complain without even realizing that things are going to be changing. Only question is when.

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    A OK I'm sorry Mr officer I'll let you know next time I want to post something non sunshiner or non homer
    That's the kind of respect I expect to see out of you. Just to be safe, send me a PM before your next "non sunshiner or non homer" post, just so I can make sure it is up to your usual ridiculous par.

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    Is it illogical to expect a team's best player to not be the worst player on the floor?

    Is it illogical to expect a power forward to shoot better than 35% from the field?

    Is it illogical to expect a point guard to get his teammates involved in the offense, and at least pretend to give a damn on the defensive end?

    Is it illogical to expect a guy who as been overpaid multiple times by the same team to suit up for a game every now and then?
    1) No. But you clearly have it out for Granger, and have for a long time. You slam him every chance you get, and that isn't only saved for stinkers like tonight.

    2) No, we both know he won't continue to shoot that poorly, and supposedly he is playing with an injured hand. May have something to do with it, I don't know, but the sample size is small and he will get better.

    3) No, but DC has been much better this season, on both sides of the ball. Probably been our most consistent player, which you wouldn't know, because evidently tonight was the first game you have watched all season.

    4) If the guy is hurt, he's hurt. He's a valuable rotation player when he's not, and why throw him out there early in the season if he's not 100%? Are players not allowed to rest or nurse injuries? The guy has been a pro for his entire career with the team and is very valuable when he plays.

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    wasn't able to watch the game tonight but saw the score....what the HELL happened???
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    Is it illogical to expect a team's best player to not be the worst player on the floor?

    Is it illogical to expect a power forward to shoot better than 35% from the field?
    FWIW, I agree that these are valid criticisms.

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    Is it illogical to expect a point guard to get his teammates involved in the offense, and at least pretend to give a damn on the defensive end?

    Is it illogical to expect a guy who as been overpaid multiple times by the same team to suit up for a game every now and then?
    Collison is much improved this season (to my surprise). Certainly he shouldn't be lumped with Granger or Hans right now.

    As for Foster, well injuries happen. Surely management knew he had a bad back when they re-signed him. Are you saying he's milking his injury?

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    I'm not even worried. This isn't the same team you will see later this season. It just isn't. I'm not one to put blinders on either. We have more talent on this team than we've had in years. Granger, who was supposedly an all-star scored 6 points on 2-13 or something. It was a bad game and bad games happen. Granger, as bad as he is, isn't that bad...[/QUOTE

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    FG5 Stats seem to indicate a downward trend. Dosn't really give me hope that he is going to miraculously turn it around any time soon.
    You think its bad now. Wait till 2032-33 when we fail to make a basket.
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    Oh yes. Mackey has an irrational hatred for most of the players, but actually has some logic behind his posts when they aren't involving the awful Granger/Hansbrough/Collison/Foster foursome.
    he was making fun of lance getting hurt to.

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