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    If Nash signs an extension and all we have to do is give up collison i say yes! Nash still has some good years in him and would give us more veteran leadership especially in the playoffs. Do it Bird
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    Isin't it illegal to have a player currently under contract to get a "wink wink I will resign here" from the team that might choose to extend?
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    As much as I would like to do that, I'd hate to move Collison away from this team after he's committed to trying to be a leader, after he finally gets a chance for some coach consistency, and after we surround him with a couple of familiar faces....

    But Steve Nash would make this team very good though.

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    Isin't it illegal to have a player currently under contract to get a "wink wink I will resign here" from the team that might choose to extend?
    its illegal for any player to contact another team for any reason without permission.

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    If it's still available, I wouldn't mind revisiting this deal at the deadline, when we have more evidence to base our decision on. Why act now?

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    As much as I would like to do that, I'd hate to move Collison away from this team after he's committed to trying to be a leader, after he finally gets a chance for some coach consistency, and after we surround him with a couple of familiar faces....

    But Steve Nash would make this team very good though.
    Unless you think Darren Collison is a future all-star, this is a no-brainer move. 2 years of steve nash is worth 10 of what collison is currently giving.

    This is all a moot point though, unless Sarver is willing to let his franchise player go and lose ticket sales, which he has been unwilling to do as of yet.

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    Unless you think Darren Collison is a future all-star, this is a no-brainer move. 2 years of steve nash is worth 10 of what collison is currently giving.

    This is all a moot point though, unless Sarver is willing to let his franchise player go and lose ticket sales, which he has been unwilling to do as of yet.
    I'm saying I would like to do it though. It would be totally worth it. I'm just saying I wouldn't completely feel good about the move if it were to happen.

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    its illegal for any player to contact another team for any reason without permission.
    So please remind me if you can what was the deal when Minny lost draft picks for the "wink wink resign here" deal with Joe Smith?
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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    Obviously, DC2 will never have the career that Nash has had, but this season so far:

    DC2:
    Age 24

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    10.6 7.2 1.6 .667 .722

    Nash:
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    PPG APG SPG 3P% FT%
    10.8 8.0 0.4 .316 1.000


    I know Nash doesn't have a lot of talent around him anymore, but I'd very hesitant to do this deal. If DC is not in the future it's a no brainer, but I think he is part of the future. Just my opinion.
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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    If it's straight up, you pull the trigger. I like Darren, and actually have some mutual friends with him, but even at this stage of his career, Nash brings exactly what we need. If we can sign him for another 2 years its perfect, because by then, you have Lance at 24 years old, more mature and probably ready for a chance at the starting PG spot after 3 years of being behind Nash. Great situation.

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    If it's straight up, you pull the trigger. I like Darren, and actually have some mutual friends with him, but even at this stage of his career, Nash brings exactly what we need. If we can sign him for another 2 years its perfect, because by then, you have Lance at 24 years old, more mature and probably ready for a chance at the starting PG spot after 3 years of being behind Nash. Great situation.
    Yeah I wouldn't count on Lance to be our PG of the future.

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    So please remind me if you can what was the deal when Minny lost draft picks for the "wink wink resign here" deal with Joe Smith?
    Something about take less money now for more money later. Then the league took 3 picks from them, which was an overreaction in my opinion.

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    Something about take less money now for more money later. Then the league took 3 picks from them, which was an overreaction in my opinion.
    thats right , even though that probably went on more than we know the league wanted to make an example out of them
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    So please remind me if you can what was the deal when Minny lost draft picks for the "wink wink resign here" deal with Joe Smith?
    They rescinded his bird rights and re-signed him to a cheap 1-year deal with the promise (in writing) that he would get a multi-year extension down the road. The Wolves used the extra cap space to sign Chauncey Billups and LaPhonso Ellis.

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    If Nash was 30-34 maybe , but at this point I wouldn't trade DC straight up for him
    If Nash was 30-34 maybe? Uhhh......... I don't even know where to begin with that one.


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    Plus would Nash really want to come to Indy?
    Nash wants to win. He has a waaaaaaay better chance to win here than in Phx. I think he would welcome it with arms wide open.

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    I think you take the gamble. I'd also have my players in Deron Williams ears if I am Larry Bird.

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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    A lot of PG's on the market in the next two seasons. Even the rental might not be a bad idea.

    Raymond Felton is a free agent next season, or Deron Williams if you really want to shoot for the stars. Jameer Nelson is a free agent in two years. If Nash elevates you to an ECF caliber team, landing another guy becomes that much easier I think.

    I think Felton and Nelson are the same tier of PG as Collison can likely be, If you think you can pick one of those guys up... why not roll the dice? If Nash makes you look like a title contender, who says Deron Williams might not even give you consideration?

    If none of that happens, you aren't up **** creek, you still have George Hill. You might even have hope for Lance Stevenson.

    Makes a lot of sense to me.
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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    What KStat said, though this would be a horrific trade for the Suns.

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    If this happened, I guess I'd be 50/50 on it... Love Nash but ooooooold.

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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    Did the trade on ESPN's trade machine. While we all have varying opinions on Hollinger according to his analysis getting Nash for Collison would decrease the Pacers projected wins by 5 and increase the Suns by 5. Found that interesting and I'm not big on the per stat but that does backup my belief that it wouldn't be that good of a trade.

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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    If we could somehow net Robin Lopez alongside Nash while sending DC+1st....I'd be okay with that.

    I think that Bird's perceived window to put together the best, most competitive Team is 2 years.....as evidenced by West's signing of 2 years......his preference to go after JCraw for only 2 years and Granger's contract that last another 3 years ( yes, it's 3 years for Granger...but my guess is that we want to try to win as much as we can with Granger onboard before he heads off as a UFA ).

    With GH and Lance backing him up....I think that Nash is in such good condition that he can still contribute at a high level for another 2 seasons if we don't over use him. I don't want to give up a 1st round pick....but Nash is a difference maker...even at his current age....the question is if he can contribute at a higher level then DC over the next 2 years or not.

    But in the end...I am guessing that Nash will prefer to go to a Championship Contender....specifically the Celtics. I still think that Ainge will offer up Rondo for Nash and Lopez.
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    That trade machine is bunk, I just did Steve Nash for AJ Price just to see what it would say. It had us only going up 1 win and the Suns only dropping 3 wins.

    Yeah, cause Steve Nash is only worth 3 wins over AJ Price...

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    If this does happens then I think another determining factor is Lance being able to take over the team next season..... Larry I feel sees Lance as the starter of the team in the near future. So in that sense Larry may feel DC is hampering Lance, so he becomes expendable. Plus why not have a hall of fame pg mentoring and grooming Lance......IMO
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    If this does happens then I think another determining factor is Lance being able to take over the team next season..... Larry I feel sees Lance as the starter of the team in the near future. So in that sense Larry may feel DC is hampering Lance, so he becomes expendable. Plus why not have a hall of fame pg mentoring and grooming Lance......IMO
    DC is hampering Lance? I mean seriously?

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    Default Re: Steve Nash for Darren Collison - Chad Ford thinks it makes sense

    Personally, I would rather wait and see how Collison produces under Vogel. Keeping it real...even at 38, Nash is still producing at a high level. John Stockton had that same ageless game.

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