Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst 1234567 LastLast
Results 76 to 100 of 172

Thread: Cousins has demanded to be traded

  1. #76
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by cdash View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Celtics would be a good place for Cousins. It's a veteran team and you know Garnett would not take any of Cousins' ****.
    Yeah but I don't think you want Rondo and Cousins to be the main pieces of your future.

  2. #77
    It is ka Thankee sai Major Cold's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Garrett, IN
    Posts
    9,189
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Well, this is the type of trades the Pacers should think about doing, if we can get him for free why not?
    It is obvious that you forget about this kid:



    Some times talent is just not worth it. He is proving why he dropped in the draft. Talent wise he should have been the 2 pick if not the 1st.

  3. #78
    Whale Shepherd cdash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    The Sprawl
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,491

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Yeah but I don't think you want Rondo and Cousins to be the main pieces of your future.
    It's better than Rondo and JaJuan Johnson.

  4. #79
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by cdash View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    It's better than Rondo and JaJuan Johnson.
    I'm talking about two headcases as part of your future and as your two main pieces.

  5. #80
    Whale Shepherd cdash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    The Sprawl
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,491

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I'm talking about two headcases as part of your future and as your two main pieces.
    I don't know that I'd call Rondo a head case.

  6. #81
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by cdash View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    I don't know that I'd call Rondo a head case.
    The rumor is that headcase is the reason why the Celtics wanted to move him.

  7. #82
    Whale Shepherd cdash's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    The Sprawl
    Age
    29
    Posts
    18,491

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    The rumor is that headcase is the reason why the Celtics wanted to move him.
    Yeah, I know the rumors. I just don't know how much I buy them.

  8. #83
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    I hear that Westphal had similar situations like this before?

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baske...ade/52324488/1

    But John Greig, Cousins' agent, denies that his client asked for a trade, according to SI.com.

    "DeMarcus never demanded a trade. I'm surprised the Kings, if they believe the player wanted a trade, wouldn't have made a phone call to his representative? Maybe Westphal is just feeling the heat early this season."

  9. #84
    .
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    52,583

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    This guy seems like an even bigger mess/problem than Artest ever was. NO. THANK. YOU.

    That said, I'd be all over helping to facilitate this trade as team #3.

    By the way, does Sacramento still have the same management there now as they did when they traded Peja for Ron? If so, how could they not learn from Artest and draft somebody else? Crazy.

    "But he's so talented!". PLEASE. That flies with me about as much as an abused woman who keeps repeating that her abusive husband loves her. Irrelevant!

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Hicks For This Useful Post:


  11. #85

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    He definitely would fit the smash mouth approach to a T. West and the veterans may be able to keep him in line. If we added him down low we could really dominate the East. Low risk high reward. I think guys like Foster and West could keep him check because they are tough as nails veterans. If he got out of line we could cut his ***. Maybe he wants to win and he feels that isn't going to happen in Sacramento. I usually am totally against a player forcing his way out of place, but sometimes you never know the complete circumstances. Maybe they want him out.

    Sure maybe we shouldn't do it, but for 2 2nd round draft picks? I think it could work out.

    On second thought he may not be willing to play off the bench in limited minutes so maybe it would be best to not acquire his talents.

  12. The Following User Says Thank You to Midcoasted For This Useful Post:


  13. #86
    Member jeffg-body's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2007
    Location
    Anderson, IN
    Posts
    3,603
    Mood

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    I'd say no thanks to Cousins, plenty of talent but plenty of baggage. I do like the idea of us helping to facilitate a trade to somewhere else where we may be able to pick up that scorer off the bench that we need and give up little for it.

  14. #87
    Member CableKC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    San Jose, CA ( 1123, 6536, 5321 )
    Age
    42
    Posts
    25,672

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    This is less than a year ago, but here is another article about some past issues that Cousins had with the Kings. Some of it seems like frustration among teammates.....but it does lend some insight into Cousins' relationship with the Team:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/bal...urn=nba-321244

    The season demands excessive use of taffeta, chocolates, shiny shoes and pretty jewelry, but DeMarcus Cousins(notes) is going out of his way to let you know that he has other things on his mind. Love is in the air, dear friends, and DeMarcus Cousins just doesn't care.

    By now you've likely heard that the Sacramento Kings' rookie center was left at home for a game before the Sacto front office decided to fine the 20-year-old in the wake a punching incident following the team's loss to the Thunder on Saturday. Cousins was upset at the Kings' Tyreke Evans(notes)-heavy offense to end that game, a common complaint for many Kings followers, and the frustration boiled over to a punching match between Cousins and guard Donte Greene(notes) after the loss.

    Sam Amick was the first to report the news:

    According to the sources, Cousins (whose postgame interview can be seen here) was furious at the last play in which Tyreke Evans missed a three-pointer in the final seconds of regulation that would have won the game. Cousins, who had been calling for the ball in the post in the final possession, watched angrily as Greene in-bounded the ball to Evans for the final shot.

    After the buzzer, Cousins let his opinion be known to Greene as he blew by him in the tunnel leading into the locker room. According to the sources, Greene and Cousins began exchanging words inside the locker room. The situation then escalated when Cousins accused Greene of being too "scared" of making what Cousins thought was the right play and with both players taking swings at each other before they were separated.

    No fun at all, really. Though, according to Marc J. Spears, Greene and his teammates weren't really shaken up by the whole affair:
    Greene left the locker room composed and didn't appear to have any physical marks from the fight as he talked with the brother of Thunder forward Kevin Durant and other friends before departing the arena, a source said. Greene was allowed to travel to Phoenix based on Petrie's initial review of the incident, sources said.

    After Westphal relayed Petrie's orders, Cousins departed the plane. Kings guard Francisco Garcia was upset that Cousins had been sent home, one source said. Garcia had Cousins meet with him at the Kings' practice facility on Thursday for a long talk about the rookie's professionalism and how he can better live up to his potential to be one of the team's top offensive options.

    While Cousins' teammates get along well with him and hang out with him away from the court, they're often frustrated by his moodiness and immaturity when things aren't going his way, a source said. Some of Cousins' frustration, however, stems from his belief that some of his teammates aren't punished or criticized as hard as he is when they make mistakes, another source said.

    And if you'll pardon a bit of "I know what's up, even from here on the couch," it's pretty easy to deduce what's going on with the Kings. Mainly because coach Paul Westphal had to be told to tell Cousins to take a hike by his general manager.
    Partially because, just by watching Kings games, you can see why Cousins would chafe at Evans' dribble-happy ways and terrible shot selection, especially as the second year guard isn't nearly as explosive (for whatever reason) as he was last season.
    And also because, just by watching Kings games, you can tell that DeMarcus Cousins easily has the worst body language of any of the NBA's 40 trillion players, and in the middle of February (no matter the holiday), that's saying a lot. Few teams offer much less than 10 sets of slumped shoulders per rotation these days.

    You see, DaMarcus Cousins is a huge problem.

    And so is Paul Westphal.

    And so is Tyreke Evans.

    There is a lot of blame to go around in Sacramento, and not a lot to do about it.
    Westphal is this team's leader, but he has been completely incapable of reigning in the squad's terrible shot selection over the last two seasons. Sure, the Kings are a very young team, but that hasn't stopped several NBA coaches from doing their best and succeeding when it comes to getting the kids to think straight with their shots. Even Vinny Del Negro has had young teams in Chicago and Los Angeles keeping it in check.
    The former Suns and SuperSonics coach was run out of both Phoenix and Seattle because he was essentially treated like a pushover by his players. His veteran players, mind you, and while I don't know if the man is a type of pushover (I'm not in that huddle, or in that locker room), this is a troubling pattern that appears to have sustained in Sacramento. And while those Suns and SuperSonics teams were filled with heaps of dominant personalities that could drive any coach batty, you can't ignore the similarities.
    Evans? The guy, I'm sorry, plays a brand of basketball that doesn't look like it knows how to do long division yet. By all accounts Evans is a cheerful, team-first sort of guy, and we'll partially (and passive-aggressively) ignore his moronic speeding charge from last summer for the purposes of this column. But you can't get past the way he takes terrible shot after terrible shot. All in the name of winning, no doubt, but not usually going about the most cerebral way of attempting to win.
    And Cousins? You know, he's right for chirping. Watching Evans' act, even as an impartial observer, is enervating.
    Marc quoted him last December, as the rookie said "I like to win, and if we don't, I'm mad about it," and you can understand that. It's no fun to lose close game after close game, and sometimes it feels as if this is all the Kings have done this season.
    But DeMarcus is a clear headcase. And of all the current, veteran, headcases out there, none of them exhibited the sort of on-court personality at age 20 that Cousins consistently showcases. Pick your least favorite player, a team's biggest cancer, the bane of your fandom. He wasn't as bad on the court at age 20 as Cousins is right now.
    The guy takes terrible shots ... and he's a center! I've never seen a big man with such terrible shot selection. And he mopes and he complains about every call, and he should be averaging three technicals per game if he were even held to a standard that some NBA All-Stars are charged with.
    While DMC's play of late has been very good overall and fantastic considering the guy's age, this is still worrying stuff. Headcases don't get better with age. They end up in China, or barred from a locker room, or looking for NBA work, or they publicly admit to taking it easy in rehab after taking offense a team's refusal to hand out a contract extension on top of a seven-year $92.75 million dollar deal you signed in 2004 (one that saw you play 346 out of a possible 547 games, so far, during its duration).
    It doesn't matter if he's 20, 30 or 35 years old. A headcase is a headcase, and Cousins is one. We can't get angry at him getting angry here, but we can use this incident as an excuse to point out, yikes, this Cousins kid is a bit of a trip.
    This is what general manager Geoff Petrie has put together. He hired the coach. He publicized Evans to no end when the rookie was Sacto's lone bright spot last season. And he was ultra-quick in snapping up Cousins after the big man fell to fifth in last June's draft due to concerns about his headcase-ishness. These aren't wrong moves, but these also aren't done without reflex.

    This isn't to say all is lost in Sacramento. Not with that young core, that rabid fan base and the loads of cap room coming during the offseason. But there is much, much work to be done before this all gets straightened out, and it bears pointing out that some of this effort might be given in vain. This is no easy fix, Sacramento.
    I can see this as part frustration with the way the Team is run and the inability of Cousins to deal with it as a professional.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

  15. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to CableKC For This Useful Post:


  16. #88
    Next stop June 2015
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Posts
    16,085

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by Midcoasted View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    He definitely would fit the smash mouth approach to a T. West and the veterans may be able to keep him in line. If we added him down low we could really dominate the East. Low risk high reward. I think guys like Foster and West could keep him check because they are tough as nails veterans. If he got out of line we could cut his ***. Maybe he wants to win and he feels that isn't going to happen in Sacramento. I usually am totally against a player forcing his way out of place, but sometimes you never know the complete circumstances. Maybe they want him out.

    Sure maybe we shouldn't do it, but for 2 2nd round draft picks? I think it could work out.

    On second thought he may not be willing to play off the bench in limited minutes so maybe it would be best to not acquire his talents.
    Artest 2.0? No thanks.

  17. #89
    Administrator Roaming Gnome's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Indy's Wild Wild West Side: 8 sec-check...Club Rio-check...Cloud 9-check
    Age
    40
    Posts
    5,946

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    ...Still "flying casual"
    @roaminggnome74

  18. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Roaming Gnome For This Useful Post:


  19. #90
    Since 1984 1984's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,824

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded



    He's worth very little, he will do more harm than good.

  20. The Following User Says Thank You to 1984 For This Useful Post:


  21. #91
    Since 1984 1984's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Posts
    1,824

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Honestly, do we need more Pacers hood surfing at strip clubs?

  22. #92
    Next stop June 2015
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Posts
    16,085

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by 1984 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Honestly, do we need more Pacers hood surfing at strip clubs?
    Cousins wouldn't like Indy anyway. All the strip clubs on 38th street shutdown after the trade with Golden State...

  23. The Following User Says Thank You to BlueNGold For This Useful Post:


  24. #93
    v my fave #13, sorry PG ECKrueger's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Location
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Age
    23
    Posts
    4,301

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    I hate these stupid "trade demands."

    Especially when the agent or player always says they never said anything. Did the team just make it up for the heck of it?

  25. The Following User Says Thank You to ECKrueger For This Useful Post:


  26. #94
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    3,656
    Mood

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    I'd take him in a heartbeat if the price was right (first round pick). Put him here on a more mature, structured team, and try to get his attitude in check. His talent is worth the risk.

  27. #95
    DIET COKE! Trader Joe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Troll Hunting
    Age
    26
    Posts
    32,498

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by vnzla81 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    The rumor is that headcase is the reason why the Celtics wanted to move him.
    That rumor has to be the least reliable "rumor" in the entire NBA. Rondo with a trip dub tonight BTW

    “WE NEVER SURRENDER, WE NEVER GIVE UP, WE KEEP ATTACKING”- Frank Vogel
    momentarygodsblog.com https://twitter.com/momentarygods

  28. #96
    Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Oakland, CA
    Posts
    923

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Anyone who can make headlines with his attitude at Calipari's Kentucky is truly a special type of snowflake. My favorite stat of his is 5 personal fouls per game, at 27 minutes. His per48 is truly cutting edge.

    I just don't think a second year player that demands a trade, and gets it, is in the right frame of mind to shape up. At least Lance has been humbled with his second round slide and other potentially career-ending issues. If you want to be the team that forges Cousins into something worthwhile, you better get ready for the long haul.

  29. #97
    Member CableKC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    San Jose, CA ( 1123, 6536, 5321 )
    Age
    42
    Posts
    25,672

    Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by judicata View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Anyone who can make headlines with his attitude at Calipari's Kentucky is truly a special type of snowflake. My favorite stat of his is 5 personal fouls per game, at 27 minutes. His per48 is truly cutting edge.

    I just don't think a second year player that demands a trade, and gets it, is in the right frame of mind to shape up. At least Lance has been humbled with his second round slide and other potentially career-ending issues. If you want to be the team that forges Cousins into something worthwhile, you better get ready for the long haul.
    My favorite stat is 43% FG% on 11 FGA over those 27mpg....for a Center....how or why a Center shoots that low on that many FGA is stunning to me.
    Ash from Army of Darkness: Good...Bad...I'm the guy with the gun.

    This is David West, he is the Honey Badger, West just doesn't give a *****....he's pretty bad *ss cuz he has no regard for any other Player or Team whatsoever.

  30. #98

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    While I do think Cousins is a tremendous talent, I don't think it is a smart idea to pair him up with Lance. They could potentially hinder each other.

  31. #99
    Rebound King Kstat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Charlotte, NC
    Age
    32
    Posts
    28,297

    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Cousins's numbers are a study in contrast.

    27 minutes, 5 fouls, %32 shooting, 3 turnovers

    27 minutes, 13 points, 11 rebounds, 1 steal, 1.5 blocks

    Never in my life have I seen so much production and so many mistakes condensed into just over half a game.

    Would I take him? Hell yes. Would I give up anything significant to get him? Hell no.
    Last edited by Kstat; 01-02-2012 at 04:29 AM.

  32. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Kstat For This Useful Post:


  33. #100
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Indianapolis
    Age
    33
    Posts
    28,142

    Default Re: Cousins has demanded to be traded

    Quote Originally Posted by Trader Joe View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    That rumor has to be the least reliable "rumor" in the entire NBA. Rondo with a trip dub tonight BTW
    Is not really a rumor is actually a report of his behavior.

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 20
    Last Post: 02-13-2011, 11:44 PM
  2. Larry Bird's Transactions Since Joining the Front Office
    By SMosley21 in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 10-15-2010, 09:33 PM
  3. Cousins and the draft
    By Trophy in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 127
    Last Post: 04-03-2010, 08:43 PM
  4. Is Cousins Maturing? Very Good Read on Cousins
    By MillerTime in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 19
    Last Post: 03-23-2010, 07:32 AM
  5. Hypothetical ??? - What NBA Team Did Not make a Trade?
    By indyblue47 in forum Indiana Pacers
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-22-2008, 04:00 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •