Thats a very valid question. Maybe Vogel has answer for it. What position players job, moreso than others, is it to get the ball to Hibbert?
Another thing was that Hibbert couldn't hold position when Wallace guarding him at times. This has always been a major weakness of Hibbert... lack of strength.
I agree with Kstat and BillS - ball movement is far and away our biggest problem right now.
Hopefully, whenever Foster can finally be healthy enough to play, DWest won't have to play C, and can have more rest. I just don't feel comfortable enough counting on Foster to be healthy this season. I feel the Pacers need another C to b/u Hibbert. What happens if Hibbert gets injured? You can kiss the season off with Foster( when healthy), DWest, Amundson, and Pendergraph trying to hold the fort down. It's the one position the Pacers can ill afford to lose their starter w/o a valid healthy b/u player. It's not like the Pacers don't have the room nor cap.
I don't think we can count on Lance for any sort of immediate help though. He still looks very raw out there.
Last edited by wintermute; 01-01-2012 at 03:23 PM.
Outside of Hill the Pacers dont have anyone that can initiate any ball movement and with Hill its usually because he beat his man on a drive. DC cant beat his man off a screen so that play is a dud 90% of the time and even if the help defender stays to long he is so small he cant make the pass back to the screener.
It all goes back to not having a good enough PG to run a complete offense.
The reason we lost this game is simple really, we didn't crash the offensive boards nearly as effectively as we had our last three games. When you shoot a poor percentage offensively you need to capitalize on second chance points, and we didn't even give ourselves the chance to do so this game. However as the year progresses I have no doubt that our shots will start falling, which will minimize our reliance on second chance points.
Happy New Year everyone! Hopefully we are due for a great year of Pacer basketball!
We have 15 million in cap space and 2 open roster spots. I'm certainly not willing to burn that flexibility for a mediocre backup C.
Dalembert cost 7mil leaving the Pacers with cap space still and he is better than a mediocre backup, Okur is also better than backup, he is a "former all star" who could be an starter just in case, now instead we have 3.7mil(Jeff/Pendergraph) seating, not a good decision.
Edit: Pendergraph 700k Foster 3mil.
Last edited by vnzla81; 01-01-2012 at 05:52 PM.
How much of that 15 mil would Frensko cost?
If Hibbert gets injured, which I don't want, the Pacers are out of the playoffs and will get a lottery pick. Then what, another 3 year plan?
When one thinks about it, Granger gets injured his replacements are PG and Dahntay. Maybe like UB says the Pacers bench just isn't that deep.
why are we all worried about Roy going down?
Let's face it, if he is in, we forget to give him the ball, (see last 2 games in which he DID get the ball 1 qtr) and otherwise we ignore him anyway.
Either PG forgets his assignment and gets under Roy's feet on a rebound or it is the one i am not allowed to comment upon because he's the 2nd next coming we have on our team.
Our rotation beyond our starters sucks and of our starters PG still has a lot to learn, nd West is coming back from a major surgery, which normally takes 2 years to fully recover of, if ever.
We have one of the best 7.2 centers in the league, or he has it in him to get there, but we are not playing inside out.
we are running around like headless chickens playing 1 on 1, it wont work.
So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.
If you've done 6 impossible things today?
Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!
Overall I'm pleased with Hibbert so far--If he can give us solid production in 3 games out of 4 the rest of the way, then we are going to have a special season.
Really not concerned about the offense, because I still maintain that our success this season is overwhelmingly dependent upon our ability to sustain a top 5 defense. If we defend the way we did those first 3 games, then we have a shot at being one of the top teams in the conference.... If we don't defend at this level, then we could just as easily miss the playoffs. The swings and the unpredictability of it all makes this season even more exciting for me and I'm sure most of you all feel the same way.
Everyone knew we were probably going to go 3-1 these first 4 games so I'm over last night. The real question is, what do we do in the next 18? My preseason prediction was 5-13... but I'll admit I've been impressed enough with the team overall to not rule out a complete flip of the script, 13-5 happening. (I'm hardly factoring in last night, because we knew the Pistons were desperate to finally get a win and that we were probably due for a loss since we should have lost the Cleveland game).
Edit: In terms of points allowed per 100 possessions, we are currently FIRST in the NBA, Milwaukee is second. And this is really the key issue--can we be an elite defensive team like the Bucks? If so, then we will definitely make the playoffs instead of them.
Last edited by DonSwanson; 01-01-2012 at 06:01 PM. Reason: Defensive Rating