and 2 first rd picks is just LOL
the 2nd best pg in the NBA last year isnt worth 2 first rd picks? GTFO!
Troy, we are not talking about Brian Westbrook, former Philadelphia Eagles RB, if that's what's somehow confusing you. We're talking about RUSSELL WESTBROOK. Last year there was talk of Westbrook for Chris Paul being sort of a fair trade.
It would take more than Danny. Probably Danny and Darren.
Does he have some growing up to do? Yes. However, based on talent, he is one of the best players in the NBA. Far better than anyone on our roster. He is probably the most athletic PG in the NBA and the second best defensive PG behind Rondo.
Also, the kid is still crazy young, its not like he's peaked. He can still improve his jump shot and work on his maturity.
I'd offer a package around DC/Granger. Honestly, he is probably worth a 1st too, and if we could keep Hibbert/Hansbrough/George, I'd have no problem throwing the 1st their way as well. You could build a dynasty around Hibbert/George/Westbrook.
EDIT: Had I seen his post about "Hansbrough > Westbrook" before, I probably would not have even bother typing this. I was under the impression that I was sending it to someone who was half way rational. Now I realize it was a waste of time.
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Let's be fair here to troyc11a......the value and how good a Player is subjective. Clearly, he doesn't think that Westbrook is that good of a PG. I ( and many here ) disagree with him on how good a Player Westbrook is......but its his opinion.
As I said....the Thunder are in "Compete and beat the Elite Teams NOW" mode.....DC as their PG would be a step in the wrong direction.
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If Westbrook was the greatest pg in the history of the NBA like some of you are acting like, we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Is there a serious rumor about Dwade, Lebron, Melo, Durant, or any other great player being traded? No, unless they are at the end of their contract.
Westbrook is a good pg, he is not great. Probably 15 or so in league who are as good or better.
Heck, why dont Miami offer Lebron and 3 firsts for this all world player.
Whew. I go to Ruth Chris and when I get back, I'm glad this was covered for me. Thanks fellas, you said everything I was thinking as I read along.
I'm not a huge fan of Westbrook the offensive player, but Westbrook the defensive player more than makes up for it. He has some horrible shooting nights, but that's not the norm.
I'm with troyc11a. Westbrook is not a guy I want near my team. He has 0 understanding of the game of basketball, is a turnover machine, can't shoot, bad attitude, most ball dominant player in the league, not a good passer, and thinks he is the far better than he actually is. Yes, he's athletic and a decent defender, but that's about all he offers a team. Notice during OKC games that when Westbrook has the ball his teammates just stand around and watch, knowing that 15 sec will be Westbrook dribbling followed by him taking on 3 defenders throwing up some circus shot or taking a contested long range 2.
I would much rather have the pg we are watching play tonight!
I don't like Westbrook either. He is incredibly fast and a good finisher. God knows he destroys the Pacers every time they play, but he is a black hole. In his world everyone else on the team is there to rebound, set a pick or pass him the ball. I probably would like him more if he didn't play with one of the greatest scorers of this generation in Durant.
He reminds me of Allen Iverson except he plays point, so that is even more ball hogging from the very get go.
That's pretty much how I see him too. This team needs a pass first pg. I really think a Mark Jackson type would fit in well here considering there are more offensive options on this team now than the last few years. I would prefer a guy like Rondo but no way Boston would let him go.
But hey, is this Kyrie Irving looking like a really good pg? Team player.
instead of westbrook or howard, what about a steve nash 1 yr rental? what would you give up for that?
So no westbrook but an old Nash is ok? (Imagine Nash having to guard derrick rose 6 times a year) westbrook isn't the greatest pg of all time and no one said he was, but if he was on the pacers he would be the best player on the team...he is a great talent.
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This is a situation in which a GM needs to sit Westbrook down and calmly but firmly say,
I love DC, but he is not better than Westbrook. I think it is a clashing of alpha-dog mentalities. But I wouldn't be mad at all if we could ever get Westbrook.