I will tell you one short experience;

couple of years ago, i was in indy to watch some games, one night Peck and famliy were kind enough to let me tag along after the game for some wings.
Now i don't remember the name of the place, but I do remember they had a classic pacer game on, and Smits was playing Ewing.

The most remarkable remark that evening were Peck's words; "Smits sure played a hell of a lot tougher then i remember!"