I've been quite impressed with Vogel. Seems the players are really listening too. I wish him the best success.
3 scenarios for the draft, starting with my favorite first:
1. Pacers trade up for Justice Winslow
2. Take WCS or Stanley Johnson (this is the theory of a player falling); Make trades (Hibbert/West/others) for additional picks - George Lucas and Rakeem Christmas are players I'd love to have with a late first/early 2nd round
3. Trey Lyles
I'm sure my opinion will change many times before the draft though.
During the telecast they mentioned that neither LeBron nor DWade has shot one yet, which is probably what he heard.
They also showed his FT statistics from the game against Dallas, and his 19 FT attempts, along side his total FT attempts from the Finals, which was 21 total attempts.
Sorry I misspoke. But my point was still that their primary focus is getting to the rim offensively, which leads to threes as a secondary or tertiary shot, which was not the case under JOB. Vogel seems to be more intent on getting the ball into the post and working from there or getting into the lane and freeing up the passing lanes to the perimeter as the secondary option leading to more ball movement or a three.
"Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. … You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."
Just able to watch the game. The one thing that stood out to me that is different from last year is there was no hesitation on either end of the court. Before, at least to me, it seemed like there was a step lost here or there trying to make a decision whether it was rebounding or simply pushing the ball up the court. Monday's game I rarely saw any of that, if any at all. Your guys went out and did what had to be done. And owning the boards was a huge part of that.
I know it's only one game but it's an attitude I can't see going away, no matter who is the opposing team. The rebounding total may not be as spread apart against other teams but the Pacers will surely be holding their own. Before I felt that your team would probably be around .500 this year taking into account the tough schedule. I still think that but now I wouldn't be surprised if they won more games than that.
This shortened season will be putting all the teams to a test but it seems the Pacers' mental strength and physical strength maybe starting to come together which couldn't be better timing.
Last edited by flox; 12-28-2011 at 01:53 PM.
i hope not myself, just from an entertaining game standpoint. the battle of the boards is fun to watch. watching a game where both teams just take a shot and back down court is not much fun to watch.
Frank's shown the ability to adjust though, so I think we'll just have to see how it plays out. It's a good idea, seeing that when George and Hill are on, our back court is probably good enough defensively to prevent a fast break, and Hans/West are so aggressive they are likely to get those offensive rebounds.
Our team, however, is younger, and should also have two guys on the court at all times capable of 10+ rebounds per game, given starter's minutes. George and Granger are also long enough that even if they get burned, they still have a chance to block a shot/lay-up at the other end, a la Tayshawn Prince.
My opinion is that Vogel is spot on with the way he's building the team. My high school coach always told us that we wouldn't always shoot well, but you can always play good defense and rebound.
The Pacers have scorers, that part of the game will take care of itself. The shots will start falling eventually if they keep working the ball and getting good looks like they are right now.
I love seeing the way the pacers crash the boards with West and Hans, hopefully we get foster and pendergraph in on the action soon. Obviously you won't be able to send everyone to the glass when you play a team that can transition from offense to defense as quickly as OKC or Miami. I trust Vogel is smart enough to make that adjustment when the time comes.
In Vogel I Trust!!
They have enough speed and length to get back and contest passes and shots. Rebounding and defense will be their strengths this season. Perimeter shooting will be the achilles heal. The Pacers are starting to play like Philly from last year.