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    Looking back on our yearly game-logs, we've won while holding a team to sub-80 points exactly once each of the past four seasons:

    2010-2011: Heat, 93-77
    2009-2010: Clippers, 86-73
    2008-2009: Celtics, 95-79
    2007-2008: 76ers, 85-76

    We did it three times in 2006-2007: over Houston, 81-76; over Atlanta, 91-72; over Miami, 95-70.

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    ..but was it the franchise low in a season opener on a monday night game that started at 7:00 during an odd numbered year?
    I know you're a Pistons fan, but it's not like it's some made up statistic just for the sake of a statistic. Lowest score in a season opener since 1954 more to your liking?

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    ..but was it the franchise low in a season opener on a monday night game that started at 7:00 during an odd numbered year?


    Absurd.

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    ..but was it the franchise low in a season opener on a monday night game that started at 7:00 during an odd numbered year?

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    I know you're a Pistons fan, but it's not like it's some made up statistic just for the sake of a statistic. Lowest score in a season opener since 1954 more to your liking?
    It's an obscure, meaningless statistic. There is nothing special about season openers, as opposed to the rest of the season. This isn't baseball.

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    It's an obscure, meaningless statistic. There is nothing special about season openers, as opposed to the rest of the season. This isn't baseball.
    I think it probably indicates something.

    I'll put this as gently as possible. Probably that Detroit is terrible. ...

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    I think it probably indicates something.

    I'll put this as gently as possible. Probably that Detroit is terrible. ...
    .....ok? We needed that obscure stat to tell us?

    It wasn't about being the team everyone loved, it was about beating the teams everyone else loved.

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    It's an obscure, meaningless statistic. There is nothing special about season openers, as opposed to the rest of the season. This isn't baseball.
    Nobody made a point about scoring in a season opener did they? The point was that the Pacers held a team to under 80 points and that didn't happen often the past two seasons.

    I suppose you could extrapolate out that there was an additional point that it could mean something because the Pacers did it right out of the gate, but mainly... the point was the Pacers held a team to under 80 points and they historically haven't done that much and they've already done it at least once. IIRC There was even a caveat that it was against the Pistons.

    So the only one who interjected the season opener into the stat keeping was you....

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    .....ok? We needed that obscure stat to tell us?
    It's really not that obscure. You hear quotes like that all the time. Besides, weren't you the one saying the Pistons could compete for a playoff spot this year? That razzing being dished out, I think that was more about the Pacers being good than the Pistons being bad.

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    I think it probably indicates something.

    I'll put this as gently as possible. Probably that Detroit is terrible. ...
    Yeah Detroit is a horrible team, if the Pacers play "smash mouth basketball" Detroit plays "smack me in the basketball" they are a soft team, Daye and Monroe are really soft, Wallace needs to retire, Prince is not even close to what he used to be, the only players I like are Knight and Gordon.

    Damn I almost forgot about softie Villanueva
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    Yeah Detroit is a horrible team, if the Pacers play "smash mouth basketball" Detroit plays "smack me in the basketball" they are a soft team, Daye and Monroe are really soft, Wallace needs to retire, Prince is not even close to what he used to be, the only players I like are Knight and Gordon.
    I think the Pacers took the foot off the gas once they got up 24 points. You could tell that when it started getting closer and Pacers started crashing the boards and dominating again. The Pacers were simply far more physical and that included our wings.

    Oh, one other thing. Paul George is a beast and we've seen nothing so far.

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    I thought Monroe looked interesting, actually, although he needed a lot more support. I'd be happy to have him on the Pacers, where there'd be more threats around him so the D couldn't focus on him so much.
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    I thought Monroe looked interesting, actually, although he needed a lot more support. I'd be happy to have him on the Pacers, where there'd be more threats around him so the D couldn't focus on him so much.
    We already have a taller Monroe in Hibbert.

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    I thought Monroe looked interesting, actually, although he needed a lot more support. I'd be happy to have him on the Pacers, where there'd be more threats around him so the D couldn't focus on him so much.
    Monroe has a higher ceiling than either Roy or Tyler. The knock on him was a questionable motor. It seems like that's still a problem. That said, I'd still love to have him on the Pacers, but it's a moot point since he's the best thing Detroit's got right now.

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    I thought Monroe looked interesting, actually, although he needed a lot more support. I'd be happy to have him on the Pacers,

    I really feel he's going to be good, and I'd love to see him in a Pacers' uni.

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    We already have a taller Monroe in Hibbert.

    Being taller doesn't mean Hibbert is or will be better than Monroe. I feel Monroe has a very bright future in the NBA.

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    Being taller doesn't mean Hibbert is or will be better than Monroe. I feel Monroe has a very bright future in the NBA.
    I'm talking about the similarity on the players, I watched Monroe a lot in college, the guy plays the same way Roy does, he is as soft as Roy and as awkward, they are so similar they should be brothers.

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    Monroe is a very good player. He needs an enforcer next to him, though. He was very much on an island last night. Guys were charging right into him repeatedly and no one put a stop to it. Monroe can't be the guy to dish out the hard fouls. He's more important than that.

    Teams are going to keep attacking him if the Pistons don't find someone to put next to him that is going to make opponents think twice about it.

    While I think the Pistons have earned the "soft" label after last year's debacle, calling Monroe soft individually is something I'd take exception to. He's not soft, he's just outnumbered.

    Also, I didn't say the Pistons WOULD make the playoffs. I said they'd be better than last year, which I stand by, and I said their best-case scenario was the 8th seed.

    There's a whole lot of chest-puffing over one game. It's kind of silly. If the Pistons beat the Pacers at home this weekend, does that mean the Pacers are headed to the lottery as well?
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    Monroe is a very good player. He needs an enforcer next to him, though. He was very much on an island last night. Guys were charging right into him repeatedly and no one put a stop to it. Monroe can't be the guy to dish out the hard fouls. He's more important than that.

    Teams are going to keep attacking him if the Pistons don't find someone to put next to him that is going to make opponents think twice about it.

    While I think the Pistons have earned the "soft" label after last year's debacle, calling Monroe soft individually is something I'd take exception to. He's not soft, he's just outnumbered.

    Also, I didn't say the Pistons WOULD make the playoffs. I said they'd be better than last year, which I stand by, and I said their best-case scenario was the 8th seed.

    There's a whole lot of chest-puffing over one game. It's kind of silly. If the Pistons beat the Pacers at home this weekend, does that mean the Pacers are headed to the lottery as well?
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    Amir's not really what we need, though. We need a bruiser. We already have hustle guys.

    Max just fell off the map after we broke up our championship core. He used to be an effective halfcourt scorer. I think the past couple of years trying to make him a 6'5" center have really screwed him up.

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