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    Just one question... What the heck is a Finance'?
    The double meaning is actually kind of accurate.
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    “People talk about how quiet he [McKey] is, but he’s really been helpful. He gives a lot of insight to players in how to guard certain teams and what their weaknesses are. The whole team listens to him, and it makes my job a lot easier. Having players like him is what pro basketball is all about for me.” —Larry Brown

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    For the first time since . . . maybe good Tinsley . . . we have a point guard who can properly feed the post. George Hill will be key to this rising team.
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    “People talk about how quiet he [McKey] is, but he’s really been helpful. He gives a lot of insight to players in how to guard certain teams and what their weaknesses are. The whole team listens to him, and it makes my job a lot easier. Having players like him is what pro basketball is all about for me.” —Larry Brown

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    Seconded.

    Actually, I was quite impressed with his passing. He's not Chris Paul, but he seems to see the open man in a way that suggests he played a lot with CP. This was not a positive trait I was counting on or had been giving any warning about. I think it may have been the single biggest contributor to our solid, balanced victory.
    West plays like a man amongst boys

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    My throat is so sore today... It was worth it though! Had a blast with the Area 55 guys! Thought we did a pretty good job of staying active with chants all game.

    It was a great game, love to see domination on the boards, hope that continues. Shooting will obviously get better.
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    Really appreciated Granger's involvement on boards, playing D, assisting. My biggest gripe with him last year was not being engaged beyond scoring. Still don't like him bringing the ball up on the break though. Almost always ends in a TO. Find a guard and run the lane or trail.

    Otherwise, the most refreshing thing was the big advantage/toughness displayed on the boards. Three guys in double digits and solid supporting roles by our wings - Granger & George. Those two will have to pitch in night in and night out. One way we can take advantage of their length.

    Interested to see how the rebounding/toughness issue plays out over time and when we play a team with more size, depth, and shot blocking inside. A very good start last night obviously, but another key to long-term success.
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    Looks like we may finally have some chemistry. The Pacers are fun to watch again. How many years has it been?

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    Yes. Yes they are!!!
    http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-tr...nce-stephenson
    "But, first, let us now praise famous moments, because something happened Tuesday night in Indianapolis that you can watch a lifetime’s worth of professional basketball and never see again. There was a brief, and very decisive, and altogether unprecedented, outburst of genuine officiating, and it was directed at the best player in the world, and that, my dear young person, simply is not done."

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    Looks like we may finally have some chemistry. The Pacers are fun to watch again. How many years has it been?
    They were fun last year when JOB was not coaching..
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    It's what happens when you get engaged to your accountant.
    Either that or your fiance's name is Nancy.

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    What a win, what a win.

    I hardly post, but I did want to give a shout out to Area 55. I sat about 10 rows in front of you guys (16th row seats for $40? Don't mind if I do!) and you guys make it almost impossible not to get excited about what's happening in the game. And honestly, you make it downright fun. Nothing is said that is degrading, but it's still humorous (You can't do that, you can't guard him, etc.).

    I know it's early, but we need Area 55 to help the average fan who is coming back to the team get excited about what's going on in the game. I think we learned last year in the playoffs how important it'll be to our have our fans representing the blue and gold at Conse...err...Banker's Life Fieldhouse!

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    I know it's early, but we need Area 55 to help the average fan who is coming back to the team get excited about what's going on in the game. I think we learned last year in the playoffs how important it'll be to our have our fans representing the blue and gold at Conse...err...Banker's Life Fieldhouse!
    The Area55Chants twitter is coming along! The plan is to be posting chants and taking suggestions for game-specific chants as well.

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    If your voice isn't either scratchy or completely dead the next morning, you weren't loud enough!
    "Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel

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    Figure I'll be the Debbie Downer..... I love the smash mouth (playoff needed) basketball we're going to play, but while it's early and shots are being missed I still saw signs why Bird is pretty insistent we need an outside shooter. Detroit has a few of those guys that are going to hit that wide open and you can feel it. PG showed me somethings last night, but folks at this point I just don't feel it at this time so speak that we have that guy yet.
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    I do worry a little bit about our depth. We have 7 players we can count on (the starters plus Ty and Hill), but beyond that, there are huge questions with ech of the other players. And if Roy gets injured or into foul trouble, we have no shotblocking, and not too much size.

    our players from 1 through 7 compared with other playoff teams is as solid as any team, except we don't have the superstar.

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    2 things

    1.) I thought D West was a pick an pop guy, but he's a bulldog down there.

    2.) I didn't notice DC's defense, thats a really good thing, it means he was playing good D. I don't think you can overestimate how important that is to this team.

    Edit: 3 things, actually. Paul Georges defense is a difference maker. Just outstanding.
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    I didn't like the Tyler/West unit that much, not a shot blocker and the defense was not that good either.


    When the Pacers signed West, he was never portrayed as being able to play Center. He did an admirable job playing Center. That's what I was referring to in my comment.

    As to West and Hans together, I thought they played well enough together to be effective. Is it my 1st choice, no... but it isn't the worst combo either.

    I'm disappointed Lou didn't get some PT to where the fans could see what he can bring to the game.

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    When the Pacers signed West, he was never portrayed as being able to play Center. He did an admirable job playing Center. That's what I was referring to in my comment.

    As to West and Hans together, I thought they played well enough together to be effective. Is it my 1st choice, no... but it isn't the worst combo either.

    I'm disappointed Lou didn't get some PT to where the fans could see what he can bring to the game.
    The offense is not bad with the West/Tyler duo but the defense was really bad, Detroit guards were going inside at will, it looks to me like Vogel saw the same thing because he didn't use the duo again.

    Regardin Lou, yes I wanted to see him, I hope we can see him tomorrow.

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    http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...IndyStar.com|p

    There is an argument raging in my head -- a nice complement to the ringing in my ears after spending opening night watching the Indiana Pacers blow out the Detroit Pistons 91-79 in front of a sellout crowd.

    Sixty-six and zero, bay-bee. NBA title. Dynasty. Did you watch that Pacers performance Monday night? To quote LeBron James, "Not one. Not two. Not three. Not four . . .''

    Calm. Down.

    It's one game, Spanky. One game against the Detroit Pistons, a team that will finish somewhere in the nether regions of the Eastern Conference. You know who their best player was Monday night?

    Um, Rasheed Wallace? How many guesses do I get?

    Jonas Jerebko.

    Gesundheit.

    I'm not being a hater. I'm just keeping it real. That's the way a good young team is supposed to play on opening night. Did I mention the Pistons stink?

    Did I mention I love David West's game?

    The guy shows up for the first time in a Pacers uniform and looks like he has been here forever. He has that old-school post-up game. He shoots the jumper. He goes to the boards. The best thing? He KNOWS how to play.

    "Not bad for a guy who just started playing basketball again a week and a half ago,'' Pacers veteran Danny Granger said.

    Yeah, he looked terrific, but this team needs more bigs. You didn't see it against Detroit, especially with Greg Monroe in early foul trouble. But they're going to need more help up front as the season goes along. Although I thought Jeff Foster looked really sharp in that suit.

    Get off all the talk about the lack of bigs. They're playing big. They absolutely crushed the Pistons on the boards 53-40. They had 18 offensive rebounds. They went to the free throw line 20 times in the first half to the Pistons' four attempts.

    These aren't Jim O'Brien's Pacers anymore.

    Three Pacers had double-doubles: West (11 points, 12 rebounds), Roy Hibbert (16, 14) and Tyler Hansbrough (15, 13). That doesn't happen in the NBA. It happened Monday night.

    Yeah, throw a parade.

    You know who worries me? Granger worries me. This is a new world for him. The team isn't going to need him to score 25 every night and hoist 18 to 20 shots. I'm worried he's not going to be comfortable sharing the wealth. I worry about things. It's what I do.

    Let me tell you who doesn't worry me: Tyler Hansbrough.

    You know, it's not too early to cast your vote for the Sixth Man of the Year Award. All you weenie media types whined about how the Pacers needed a power forward, but you forgot Hansbrough was coming off his first healthy offseason since coming to the NBA. He's got that Tim Tebow thing going; you wondered how his college game would play in the pros, and darned if he doesn't produce points, rebounds and bruises.

    He's even using his left hand.

    "Worked on it all summer,'' he said. "I used it twice tonight. The next thing I've got to do is actually put it in the basket.''

    Let me tell you what I really liked, lest you think I'm a nabob of negativity. I liked the way they scrapped. I liked that at one point in the fourth quarter, I looked up and saw they were leading by 22 points and shooting just 39 percent. That's because they rebounded and defended and lived at the free-throw line.

    "We could never win a game like this last year,'' Granger said, referring to the pre-Vogel era. "Thirty seven percent? No way.''

    Ah, so you're coming over to my side.

    No, not necessarily. Talk to me again after 12 games. Talk to me after they run the road gauntlet in this truncated season. Talk to me after they play seven of 12 games against teams who didn't make the playoffs -- even if seven of them are on the road. Let's see Hibbert put together consistent play for a long period of time. This has to be a funk-free year.

    Truncated? You negative guys use some big words.

    Talk to me after they start playing some top-echelon teams. Talk to me after they play at Miami on Jan. 4 and at Boston on Jan. 6. On second thought, don't talk to me. Send a text.

    How do you get through life like that? The buzz at the newly named Bankers Life Fieldhouse (10 cents for every mention) was palpable. Standing-room only. Crazy loud. Ticket scalpers are back in business on Pennsylvania Street.

    Here's how you know Pacers basketball is becoming an event again: The Good Looking Females Quotient. There is a direct correlation between the quality of Pacers basketball and the number of good-looking females in the joint.

    Not going to disagree with you there.

    This team is going places, and I don't just mean Toronto.

    "Is this the team you thought you were joining?'' West was asked.

    "Absolutely,'' he said with a smile. "Every spot, we've got guys who can really play.''

    Now repeat after me: "Not one, not two . . .

    . . . Not three, not four . . .

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    god damn kravits

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    Yeah the defense was not that good, thanks god Detroit sucks.



    http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsi...rom-the-field/

    The Pacers could have easily been satisfied with their 12-point victory over the Pistons on Monday.

    A win is a win, right?

    Not with these Pacers.

    It started with Frank Vogel during his postgame news conference.

    “We’ve got a lot of room for improvement,” the Pacers coach said. “They shot 36 percent and we defended pretty well, but we can improve a lot on the defensive end.”

    It carried over into the locker room.

    “We didn’t shoot the ball well on the offensive end and our defense was just okay,” Danny Granger said. “There’s always room for improvement.”

    The Pacers still have some work to do on the offensive end of the court, but their defense played well enough for them to get away with struggling offensively (38.6 percent). They would have likely lost the game shooting 38.6 percent from the field in past seasons.

    They held the Pistons to 36-percent shooting.

    The Pacers will have to rely on their defense to carry them during their tight schedule.

    “The only to way to win games is to play defense,” point guard Darren Collison said. “I think last year playing against the Chicago Bulls in the playoffs helped us a lot. We understand now that defense is the key to win games. It all starts on that end.”

    I can’t remember the last time the Pacers had three player record a double-double. I’m not sure it’s happened in my seven years covering the team.

    That changed Monday when David West (11 points, 12 rebounds), Tyler Hansbrough (15 points, 13 rebounds) and Roy Hibbert (16 points, 14 rebounds) all registered double-doubles.

    That blue-collar effort all started with West, according to the players.

    “David set the tone for all of us out there,” Hibbert said. “That was the biggest thing. We made a commitment to get on the boards. He led us and we followed behind.”

    Was it pretty?

    No, but the Pacers will likely have to win more games playing that style of basketball.

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    More good looking girls in the joint will bring more bandwagon guys around.. Seat fillers.

    BTW, that Pacemate dance toward the end of the game, after the awkward staredown, was amazing. Thank you, come again.

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    Did someone kidnap him and forge his name on an article?

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    More good looking girls in the joint will bring more bandwagon guys around.. Seat fillers.

    BTW, that Pacemate dance toward the end of the game, after the awkward staredown, was amazing. Thank you, come again.
    there was a lot of smokin' hot girls there.....

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    Speaking of aggression, I hope that the perception that many had of DWest has been altered by tonight's game. He is NOT soft and takes advantage of any and all opportunities to draw contact near the rim. He goes after boards and tonight did an excellent job of keeping a few balls alive in his efforts to rebound. /QUOTE]


    It altered mine as he had been made out to be something different from numerous posters than what I saw tonight. Maybe those posters were Nene fans. I was impressed and pleased with what I saw from DWest. He missed some good shots tonight. Once he gets his form back he'll be hitting them and adding another dimension to the Pacers game that wasn't there b4.

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    If josh becomes an all star then you can pat yourself on the back.

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