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Why not take a risk of signing Pietrus to a low-cost deal? He is a way better shooter than Dahntay Jones and makes smarter decisions on offense. He is a decent defender as well. More depth is always good and signing him to a 1-year deal won't mess anything up money-wise. He's been on playoff teams before and performed pretty well.
Well if not Pietrus then sign another SF for this team. We are short on SF. Danny and George, thats it. DJones is not a SF.
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I think that the precise point that many are making is that Pietrus is NOT a better shooter than Dahntay. In fact, statistically at least, he is inferior to Dahntay. The advantage that Dahntay has over him offensively is his ability to slash and get to the rim.
Shooting 3s and making 3s are two completely different things.
As far as defensive abilities are concerned, I think both players are pretty even. Both are pretty good defenders.
Pietrus is not really a difference maker nor does he try to be.
He's someone who keeps the offensive flow going. Something Dahntay Jones does not.
He'd be good for us playing some minutes as Danny's backup.
I've liked Pietrus. Especially when he was with the Magic.
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I couldn't agree more, he was a solid contributor to that team and could play a similar role here.I've liked Pietrus. Especially when he was with the Magic.
He's no LeBron James but he's a decent player who fits the `smashmouth' job description and is looking to bounce back after his stint with the Suns. If he's healthy, I say go for it.
he is going to a contender my guess is Boston Sash Pavlovic is there starter if PP cant go. He is a clear upgrade Sash shouldnt be in the NBA anymore
All we really need is someone who can shoot and defend a tad for swingman depth. It's funny how that description sounds like Brandon Rush.
Problem is, doesn't look like he's healthy. I mean, he already failed a physical with the Raptors, and the Suns just waived him even if he has a wealthy guaranteed contract. That just screams "red flag".
Pietrus = Overrated (especially from 3...don't know where this rep comes from)
Better 3 pt range than Jones, but not nearly as accomplished as what the rep leads you to believe. Guy is neither a shooter nor a scorer. Defensively it's a wash at best. Sharpshooter who shoots 66% FTs last three seasons?
Was supposed to break out four or five years ago, but was incapable of holding down starting role as a 4th/5th offensive option. Meh. I say don't waste even a paltry sum on him. Would rather have old man Redd if we need shooting.
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great guy to have backing up Granger at the 3.
Hes a great defender and can shot from beyond the arc
"So, which one of you guys is going to come in second?" - Larry Bird before the 3 point contest. He won.
36% career from downtown is pedestrian. For example would not put him near the top 50 all time, nor top 50 in most given seasons.
Average games played in his 9 yr career is 55. Career FG% and FT% both less than DJ's. Many talent evaluators would tell you he has not come near realizing his full potential.
Just seems like a move for a move's sake. Don't see it as a move that is really advantageous.
EDIT: If you thin out the wing rotation even more (i.e. include Granger, George, Jones, Lance in a trade, then maybe I can see the depth angle, but otherwise does not really address a need). If you need 3 pt shooting, then get a legit 3 pt. threat, IMO.
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Heh. Found a "Who will be better, Wade or Pietrus" poll on a Warriors forum.
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I don't see small forward as any kind of urgent need for our team.
The better way to end the Dahntay paranoia is to give the backup 3 minutes to Paul George. Remember, the guy is nearly freaking 6'10" now. He plays great defense, and can be a pretty good shooter. So we already have a Pietrus type on our team.
George Hill is a good player. He will need minutes. Lance could end up being good this year. He will need minutes. One way to solve the West/Tyler dilemma might be to put one of them at the 3 (if the matchup allows).
So, my point is that we already have decent depth at 1,2, and 3. Any more improvements ought to look at continuing to strengthen the 5, find a shot creator/scorer for the end of games, which is unlikely at this point, and being on the lookout for a very good, pass first point guard, which is even less likely.
Now, if your paranoia is related to the fact that Dahntay got a lot of minutes in preseason, well, I am with you. I'd like those minutes to go to Paul George, George Hill, and Lance. But I don't know what the coaching staff has in mind.
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Suns buy out Mickael Pietrus
Phoenix Suns update:
Mickael Pietrus was a Sun in roster only lately until they waived him Thursday.
The Suns bought out Pietrus' contract, paying him about $4.2 million of his $5.3 million salary. Once he clears waivers, Pietrus can pick from a group of other interested teams, led by Boston, to make up the difference.
"Both Mickael and us realized it'd be beneficial for both parties to party ways," Suns President of Basketball Operations Lon Babby said. "There's an expression that, 'All's well that ends well.' In this case, all's well that ends."
Pietrus did not play or travel with the team over the final 12 games of last season due to knee pain. During the lockout, he had right knee surgery after he was declared unfit to join the French national team. The Suns agreed to trade him to Toronto two weeks ago but he failed the physical. Pietrus came to Phoenix for a MRI last weekend but never joined the team.
"He was really our kind of player -- a big guy who can shoot," Suns Coach Alvin Gentry said. "In order for it to be a good fit, you've got to want to be here and I'm not sure he was every fully engaged about being here."
Pietrus And The Celtics?: The Phoenix Suns bought out the final year of Mickael Pietrus’ contract agreeing to pay him $4.2 million of the $5.3 million remaining on his deal. The Suns had tried to trade Pietrus to the Toronto Raptors when free agency opened however a swollen knee during a physical with the Raptors nixed the deal.
Pietrus is expected to clear waivers and then be free to choose his next team as an unrestricted free agent.
Pietrus’ agent Bill McCandless told A. Sherrod Blakely of csne.com that his client has heard from several teams including the Celtics.
“He’s only 29, so he’s not like Charles Barkley or some other older players running around, chasing a championship,” McCandless said. “But he wants to be with a playoff team, and have a chance to contribute.”
There had been reports that the New York Knicks were in the mix for Pietrus, however of the half dozen teams that inquired, the Knicks were not said to be one of them.
Pietrus left $1.1 million on the table in Phoenix and as an eight year veteran is eligible to sign an NBA minimum deal starting at $1,223,166.
The Celtics, Lakers and Knicks have been called the front runners for Pietrus once he clears waivers. All three have the ability to add him at the veterans minimum.
He must feel like he can still play or he wouldn't have taken a buyout.
Right now the Pacers roster is distributed like this:
PF/C: 6 players (3 per position)
SF/SG/PG: 7 players (2 1/3 per position)
They could definitely afford to take on another wing player as long as it's a one year deal. Either a cagey vet at the vet minimum or a young guy with promise.
I sure do wish that the Spurs had amenstied Richard Jefferson....
Yep he is going to the Celtics
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