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    Hill
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    Hill isn't and never has been a point guard. Plus signing West is as good of indicator as any that we intend on giving Darren every chance to succeed.

    Hill at the point guard spot has one of the top 5 or 10 worst assist rates in the entire league, compared to that DC is Chris Paul moving the ball around.

    He doesn't play well at the one, never has, he considers himself a two, he's always been a two, San Antonio realized it eventually we'd be good to put him a position to succeed not throwing him into a position that he neither likes, nor is good at.

    He's an undersized two, maybe VERY situational combo guard, his long arms ensure that he can defend guys that are taller than him, like kobe, and those other guys in the West that Pop loved to put him on.

    George is arguably our best defender already, he should be starting at the two so that he can harass and bother the other teams best perimeter scorer. Hill and Hans will be a nice punch off the bench.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

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    Hill isn't and never has been a point guard

    So him filling in for Tony Parker for all those games over the past few years was just a mirage?

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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

    I'd say Paul George starts and Hill comes of the bench and will probably see starter minutes subbung in for both pg/sg.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

    PG can start, but GH will end up with more minutes
    and I would rather have GH close out games until PG becomes a better all-around player (example.. improves his offense)

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    I actually like the idea of Hill starting and PG24 being the main focus off the bench, mainly because of experience. You want PG24 to improve and gain confidence, play him against 2nd string guys until he forces his way into the starting role. Hill is a proven player, brings it on both ends, and can score in different ways. When we traded for him, I immediately assumed he would be the starter.

    Also, I think Hill starting at the 2 would benefit the other 4 starters more than PG24 right now. Hill brings a lot of versatility and would open the court for Granger and be another weapon for DC to pass to. Having spent time as a point guard, Hill would be able to facilitate for West and Hibbert as well.

    Paul George is very much a guy who tries to score when he has the ball, so why not give him the reigns on 2nd string with Hans, Lance, and Rush to fill in and spread the floor a little more. As he improves and shows that he can be a legit go-to guy, then you start thinking about moving him to the starting lineup.

    As has been mentioned, you can play both guys at 2 positions each, so I think one of them will always be on the court in some manner. We have a lot of flexibility in the back-court, so playing time each night might be based on match-ups too.

    For now though, start Hill and make Paul earn that starting spot. He is a hard worker, and we know he has set his goals pretty high. Putting him on the bench, with Vogel seeming to be the kind of coach who really challenges his guys to be their best, IMO, will fire Paul up and make him work even harder, making him that much better in the long run.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

    Paul George starts.

    DC
    George
    Granger
    West
    Hibbert

    Bench:

    Lance (I know some of you will torch me for that)
    Hill
    Dahntay
    Hansbrough
    Foster

    Pendergraph
    Rush

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    At least that's how I'd do it.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

    It makes more sense for Hill to be in the second unit. He can back up the 1 and 2, and we'll need his offense in the second unit.

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    Paul George starts.

    DC
    George
    Granger
    West
    Hibbert

    Bench:

    Lance (I know some of you will torch me for that)
    Hill
    Dahntay
    Hansbrough
    Foster

    Pendergraph
    Rush

    Price in a suit.

    At least that's how I'd do it.

    The Pacers only have 13 players?

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    Rush.
    "Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."

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    I think it would be more interesting to see something like this...

    1. DC
    2. Danny
    3. George
    4. West
    5. Hibbert

    Bigger team all around, with more minutes going to Hansbrough off the bench covering both West/George. Hill covering DC, and when we needed, put Danny back at 3.....Just an all around bigger team setup....Would def be interesting to see....

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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

    I think that Collison will play most of his minutes with West. I could actually see both of them start the year coming off the bench since West might not be ready for quite as many minutes as he is accustomed to playing. I could see Hill start with Tyler (and PGeorge).
    "Your course, your path, is not going to be like mine," West says. "Everybody is not called to be a multimillionaire. Everybody's not called to be the president. Whatever your best work is, you do it. Do it well. You cease your own greatness when you aspire to be someone else."

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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

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    The Pacers only have 13 players?
    Yeah, where have you been?

    We will probably sign 1 D-leaguer and leave 1 one spot I think.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

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    The Pacers only have 13 players?
    After amnestying Posey, yes. And Im not even sure Price has a guaranteed comtract (could be wrong. Too lazy to look it up)
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    I think it would be more interesting to see something like this...

    1. DC
    2. Danny
    3. George
    4. West
    5. Hibbert

    Bigger team all around, with more minutes going to Hansbrough off the bench covering both West/George. Hill covering DC, and when we needed, put Danny back at 3.....Just an all around bigger team setup....Would def be interesting to see....
    This 5 looks good to me. Our bench looks crazy good right now, Especially with Hans filling in for West. I cant remember the last time Ive been so excited for a season. Lurked on here for a little bit, but my anticipation for this year made me finally sign up for an account. See you guys around
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

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    Simple, you give him time with the second unit. Mix things up when the time's right (DISCLAIMER: NOT LIKE OBIE DID, that can happen and it not be an atrocity). The point I guess I'm trying to make is that I think George in the starting line up along with Collison, Granger, West, and Hibby gives us the best chance to jump out in front and play with a lead. Kind of the same mindset a football coach has when he has his biggest, most intimidating player come off the bus first. First lineup on the floor.
    I can see this line of thinking, and I do like the idea of jumping on a team right off the bus, but I am not convinced PG24 is ready to start. I think we all caught a glimpse of his potential and want to give him the starting job right away.

    I think Hill has proven he can be effective in the NBA, and putting Paul on the bench would serve to motivate him to reach his full potential.
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    I think it would be more interesting to see something like this...

    1. DC
    2. Danny
    3. George
    4. West
    5. Hibbert

    Bigger team all around, with more minutes going to Hansbrough off the bench covering both West/George. Hill covering DC, and when we needed, put Danny back at 3.....Just an all around bigger team setup....Would def be interesting to see....

    I'm confused. How exactly do we get bigger by just switching two players starting positions?

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    I'm confused. How exactly do we get bigger by just switching two players starting positions?
    Not only switching positions, but also switching who is their B/U. That would allow for Hill to only have to B/U Collison, so our only small on the floor would be at 1. Granger doesn't sit much, and it looks like we have quite a few that can play 3/4 off the bench. In reality it doesn't make our starters any bigger, but it would make our second team taller.....

    Bigs that would be available for 3/4 are:

    West
    George
    Hansbrough
    Pendergraph

    Hell you could even rotate Foster in there if you wanna get frisky....

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    It should be both.
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    Default Re: who starts? Paul George Hill?

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    Not only switching positions, but also switching who is their B/U. That would allow for Hill to only have to B/U Collison, so our only small on the floor would be at 1. Granger doesn't sit much, and it looks like we have quite a few that can play 3/4 off the bench. In reality it doesn't make our starters any bigger, but it would make our second team taller.....

    Bigs that would be available for 3/4 are:

    West
    George
    Hansbrough
    Pendergraph

    Hell you could even rotate Foster in there if you wanna get frisky....
    I wasn't asking for an explanation, I was being sarcastic in my post.

    There is no chance that Hansbrough, Pendergraph, West, or Foster see a single minute at the 3 spot. No chance whatsoever.

    George will not see a single second at the four.

    Hill will not play solely at the point.

    I'm sorry but do you have any idea how ridiculous what you are saying sounds? Jeff Foster at the three? Have you ever seen the Pacers play?

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