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    I don't really get this talk, why would he sign here to be third string? Clearly just didn't make sense for either side.

    I don't want to start the old debate but I still think down the road he will be a much better player than Tyler. Shame to not watch his progress here.

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    I don't think so. We added a very good PF in West and McRoberts can only dunk. I do not expect him to get much playing time in LA. I think Luke Walton will play more than he does. As you can see, I am not a McBrick fan and I am having a party celebrating the fact that he is finally gone from Indiana.

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    What I dont understand is you give a 2 year guaranteed contract to a player comming off a major injury with only a couple years in the league ( Jeff Pendergrass)

    But "Mr Irrelevant" who knows the system, is a local kid, only 24 and a former McDonalds All American, is not worth that?

    Maybe I will change my tune later but as of right now I got to say" Who the **** would want Jeff freakin Pendergrass over McBob" and then ask them why?

    Unless Bird thinks becasue he and DC went to highschool together that good ol fashioned "chemistry" will make him a better fit than McBob
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    Doubt it, we just replaced him with David West.

    Please don't start that talk

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    What I dont understand is you give a 2 year guaranteed contract to a player comming off a major injury with only a couple years in the league ( Jeff Pendergrass)

    But "Mr Irrelevant" who knows the system, is a local kid, only 24 and a former McDonalds All American, is not worth that?

    Maybe I will change my tune later but as of right now I got to say" Who the **** would want Jeff freakin Pendergrass over McBob" and then ask them why?

    Unless Bird thinks becasue he and DC went to highschool together that good ol fashioned "chemistry" will make him a better fit than McBob

    The question should be " who the F wants Pendergraft over anybody"?

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    Please don't start that talk
    what talk? we did that.

    It amazes me at how overrated Josh McRoberts is on this site.

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    I hope only the BEST for him and his future, except against the Pacers, AND a Merry Christmas and a bright HAPPY NEW YEAR to him and his family!

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    what talk? we did that.

    It amazes me at how overrated Josh McRoberts is on this site.
    "The Josh Mcroberts David West talk "

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    what talk? we did that.

    It amazes me at how overrated Josh McRoberts is on this site.
    In a lot of ways he is but

    Again could we call a Mensa guy or someone from the think tank in Indy to explain what they say in Pendergrass vs what McBob has already delivered?

    Its not that McBob should start or deserves a fat raise, but why Pendergrass over McBob?

    Only thing I can think of is Bird over played his hand on the Mayo trade and was sure that would be a fall back plan, and saw Pendegrass as a McBob replacement
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    What I dont understand is you give a 2 year guaranteed contract to a player comming off a major injury with only a couple years in the league ( Jeff Pendergrass)

    But "Mr Irrelevant" who knows the system, is a local kid, only 24 and a former McDonalds All American, is not worth that?

    Maybe I will change my tune later but as of right now I got to say" Who the **** would want Jeff freakin Pendergrass over McBob" and then ask them why?

    Unless Bird thinks becasue he and DC went to highschool together that good ol fashioned "chemistry" will make him a better fit than McBob
    There's no point in having Tyler and Josh on the same team, if you are looking for a better starter, which Larry clearly was.

    Josh took this amount of money because it was from the Lakers and he was going into a situation where he's going to get impact minutes. He wouldn't have gotten those minutes with Foster and Hans (because regardless of what we think, Larry prefers Tyler) and would have probably required a higher salary, to keep as a third big guy.

    This wasn't about Jeff versus Josh, it was about West verus Josh. I might have still gone with Josh, but I could be wrong.

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    There's no point in having Tyler and Josh on the same team, if you are looking for a better starter, which Larry clearly was.

    Josh took this amount of money because it was from the Lakers and he was going into a situation where he's going to get impact minutes. He wouldn't have gotten those minutes with Foster and Hans (because regardless of what we think, Larry prefers Tyler) and would have probably required a higher salary, to keep as a third big guy.

    This wasn't about Jeff versus Josh, it was about West verus Josh. I might have still gone with Josh, but I could be wrong.
    I feel ya sook

    But then please , using the above rational, why Pendergrass over McBob?

    Im not on a McBob love feast Im just dying to understand why on Gods green earth would we guarantee a contract for two years for someone we know little about when for virtually the same price or less could have ahd a known commidity as Mc Bob?
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    well he will definitely get more exposure now. He'll probably be swimming in Jack Nicholson's pool next summer. LOL

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    well he will definitely get more exposure now. He'll probably be swimming in Jack Nicholson's pool next summer. LOL
    or end up messing with a Kardashian
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    or end up messing with a Kardashian
    There's enough of them to go around.

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    why would he sign here to be third string?

    Or battling for 3rd string PF against Pendergraph.

    I'm not saying this went the best for McBob with the Pacers in any way, shape, or form; but sometimes when a door closes another door opens that is better yet. With injuries and possible injuries with the Lakers, this might be just what McBob's career needs to bring forth the game many feels he has.

    We all just need to wish him the best and move on. It's going to be an exciting season for the Pacers! How can anyone not feel good nor excited about this coming season? I haven't felt this good about an upcoming Pacers season since I know when.

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    ... McBob love feast ...

    good name for a band.

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    I really know nothing about Pendergraph other than what I've read about him the last few days, and I liked what I've read. I remember when McBob became a Pacer, and it was discussed on PD he was a throw in to make the salaries work. Nothing more. Let's give JP (Jeff Pendergraph) a chance to see what he's got b4 roasting him as a useless nothing. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what JP can bring to our Pacers.

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    good name for a band.
    LMAO

    caught that one huh?

    I can see it now at Mickey D's

    The new "McLovin Buger a guarnteed McBob feast"
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    I really know nothing about Pendergraph other than what I've read about him the last few days, and I liked what I've read. I remember when McBob became a Pacer, and it was discussed on PD he was a throw in to make the salaries work. Nothing more. Let's give JP (Jeff Pendergraph) a chance to see what he's got b4 roasting him as a useless nothing. Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing what JP can bring to our Pacers.
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    I am with you on all that but still dont understand why let McBob go but give a 2 year GURANTEED contract to someone who was a 2nd round pick last year comming off major knee surgery
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    I feel ya sook

    But then please , using the above rational, why Pendergrass over McBob?

    Im not on a McBob love feast Im just dying to understand why on Gods green earth would we guarantee a contract for two years for someone we know little about when for virtually the same price or less could have ahd a known commidity as Mc Bob?
    Because Josh wasn't going to take such little money for so little playing time.

    He's taking that amount from the Lakers because it's the Lakers and he's going to be able to showcase himself for the next contract (in his prime) for the next year. And you know, it's the Lakers.

    Yea, he wanted to stay a Pacer. But even if they offered him that amount of money for two years, I don't think Josh takes it. (And I think the Pacers knew it.) In this scenario, Josh is in Indiana, with low exposure, and unable to get playing time for his next contract. Oh, and not on a contender.

    Pendegrass essentially signed here to sit in a suit, and play as well as he can on the rare occasions his number is called.

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    We just got a new McRoberts in Pendergraph.

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    I don't really get this talk, why would he sign here to be third string? Clearly just didn't make sense for either side.
    It made sense for our side to keep him and use him.

    West - Roy - Tyler - Jeff - Josh - Pendy

    Jeff will NOT make it 66 games at 20 mpg, it just seems really unlikely. Roy will have foul problems on some nights as well.

    Minutes were there and if he performed then he'd move ahead of Tyler also.


    It's TNT NUKE MELTDOWN if West gets hurt.


    BTW, it would at least be different if the Pacers had made an offer and he decided to pass on it. Instead they just skipped ahead to Pendergraph and treated Josh's time here like a done deal.



    Lucky for Bird the Lakers don't play in Conseco this year, and the trip to LA will be worse for the Lakers because they will be on one day rest after 2 games in Florida while the Pacers will be on one day rest after 2 games in California. Not just a time zone hit but also coming off of games vs Dallas, Miami and Orlando.

    Nice break for the Pacers there.

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    Best of luck here in LA, Josh. It was a pleasure to watch you play in Indy.

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    There's no point in having Tyler and Josh on the same team, if you are looking for a better starter, which Larry clearly was.

    Josh took this amount of money because it was from the Lakers and he was going into a situation where he's going to get impact minutes. He wouldn't have gotten those minutes with Foster and Hans (because regardless of what we think, Larry prefers Tyler) and would have probably required a higher salary, to keep as a third big guy.

    This wasn't about Jeff versus Josh, it was about West verus Josh. I might have still gone with Josh, but I could be wrong.
    I'll just reiterated what I've been saying for a couple years: it was almost criminally stupid to draft Tyler for the exact same reason you are using to justify letting Josh walk - we already had backup quality PFs. Bird passed on a starting PG for a backup PF. Two years later we are still trying to upgrade PG and PF. It was a stupid move that continues to hurt this team.
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    I know all of PD can see this coming from a mile away. I'm sorry, but I'm compelled in a Peck/Dale way...

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    I don't think so. We added a very good PF in West and McRoberts can only dunk. I do not expect him to get much playing time in LA. I think Luke Walton will play more than he does. As you can see, I am not a McBrick fan and I am having a party celebrating the fact that he is finally gone from Indiana.
    I can see that to you a PF that can hit for 38% from THREE is a "McBrick".

    FG% - 55, Adjusted FG% - 57.6

    And he led the F-bomb team last year in Adjusted btw. From your expert analysis that to you looked like a guy hitting iron all the time. You do not know what you are talking about, period.


    "can only dunk" - except the 2.1 apg

    The team had 8 guys play at least 1000 minutes (ie, not TJ, AJ or Lance), and among those players Josh was SECOND on the team in Assists per minute with a P36 of 3.4, 2nd to Collison's 6.1 and higher than Roy's 2.7, Danny's 2.6 or Mike "Mr. Offensive Awareness" Dun's 2.2.

    His 1.3 blocks P36 was 2nd to Roy's 2.3 (discounting Solo's low playing time) and TRIPLE the rate of blocks for Tyler.

    His rebounding per minute was identical to Tyler 8.6 to 8.6 P36.

    His fouls per minute was lower than Roy and Tyler slightly despite being the youngest of the 3.

    His steals per minute, also higher than Tyler. 1.1 to 0.9, and just below Danny's 1.2.


    So his shot selection was good, but rather than just dunk he also showed (per JOB's request) that he could stretch to the 3 if needed and did so at a virtually identical rate to Danny. He rebounded as well as the big star hustler Tyler. He defended at a better level than just about anyone other than George yet did so without going foul crazy.



    I just lose it when I see totally uninformed posts like this and I have to think that this is where opinions come from? You just make up whatever without accounting for the actual results? Or maybe you just tuned in to the playoffs when he was injured because the team wasn't worth following before then?



    Yes, he does not have a post scoring game and West just dwarfs him in that manner. But "can only dunk" just sounds like someone who didn't watch the Pacers play last year other than highlights.

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