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    I'll be honest I don't recall who Reggie Williams even is. Off to Google I go...
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    I like Reggie Williams since I saw him in the D-League

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    Talking of call-ups, I called Reggie Williams promising and he's delivering big time for the Golden State Warriors. In the last game versus the Hornets, he dropped 28 points (10-16 FGA, 1-3 3PA, 7-8 FT), 6 assists and 2 steals - which would be a normal line for him in the D-League if one could add 5 or 6 rebounds.

    Reggie Williams can really be another good finding for the Warriors in the D-League/undrafted pool, to join CJ Watson, Azubuike, Morrow, Tolliver and Hunter - I think he will. He's a natural scorer, very fluid and smooth putting the ball in the basket. Not a very athletic player, little blowbyability, but has good size, a decent jumper and excellent scoring instincts.

    There's something that worries me about Williams - every time I saw him, his use of the right hand (he's a leftie) was... residual. Basically he uses it to help on his stationary dribble. His favourite ISO moves are either a diagonal drive from the left wing finished with a running hook or from the left block - he's really good at this. But in the game vs Orlando I noticed that Vince Carter was smartly overplaying his left and Williams became very timid and never attempted to go right. Even in the D-League he'd quickly pull up a jumper or an innocuous pass after going right. So yeah, he probably needs lots of work on his off-hand. Not someone with great tools to defend, but I'm liking his intensity on that end of the court with the Warriors, even though he's generally assigned the easiest matchup. He's also an excellent and willing passer, I think.
    He was horrific in Spain though, he and his team parted ways as soon as the CBA deal was announced. He's available. He isn't a guy a team can yet depend to be at Crawford's level though.

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    THIS

    Reggie Williams is the perfect pick-up IMO. He can create his own shot and is streaky as all hell. He had some really good games for GS last year when they had some injury problems.

    Under normal circumstances they'd never let him get away but the Deandre signing really hamstrung them and now he's available. Don't get me wrong he's not as good now nor will he ever have the upside someone like Mayo but for what we need it's perfect IMO.

    Cheap, Young, High energy guy who's a streaky shooter and can create his own shot? Err. Yes please.
    Clippers matched Deandre.

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    I like Reggie Williams since I saw him in the D-League

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    He was horrific in Spain though, he and his team parted ways as soon as the CBA deal was announced. He's available. He isn't a guy a team can yet depend to be at Crawford's level though.
    I don't know if this is sincere or sarcastic haha.

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    Not too hot on Jamal Crawford, but at least if it does happen I won't be able to complain about the contract

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    I don't know if this is sincere or sarcastic haha.
    What exactly?

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    What exactly?
    The part I bolded, liking him since you saw him in the D League.

    EDIT: reading the rest of your post clears it up, I didn't because I was laughing at the statement thinking it was sarcastic

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    I'd prefer over anyone OJ Mayo

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    I'd prefer over anyone OJ Mayo
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    Personally, If Paul is going to start at SG, I'd rather see a SF to back up Danny. I also think the biggest thing that we need is a very good quality backup center. Not sure what Larry's plans are for that, but Foster (as much as I wanted him back) is not reliable with his back. Jeff should be the 3rd string sort of speak, spot minutes. I'm not sure with Pendergraph doing the job either (still wet behind the ears).
    I understand wanting a sg for the crunch time like JC, but maintaining the Center position for 20+ minutes at a high level seems more important.
    If Danny was to miss a few games Paul can rotate, but then we'd be stuck with Jones as a backup SF (not good). I'm ok with George, Hill and Step at guard even tho I think George needs to be a SF, but 1 more year at SG won't hurt, I guess.
    With that said, if Jamal was to sign, it would put George backing up Granger more often then not and George prolly wouldn't start. JMO
    I guess what I'm getting at is, Pacers should also look at SF as well unless George is gonna be the main go to guy in the second unit (my choice) and finding that very good backup center.

    With all this said, it doesn't mean George and Granger can't close games out together if George plays behind Granger.

    We could also loof at a SF as well if no SG is worth having.

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    Well at the rate Crawford is taking to decide, he very well may not join us until halfway though the season.
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    In my opinion if we can't get Mayo or Crawford it is best just to sit tight, and do nothing. Maybe sign some young minimum salary guys to fill out the last to spots, but other than that it is stupid to make a move just to make a move. I would also be in support of bringing over Stanko if it isn't too late.

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    I know everyone will hate this idea but I think we should just stick it out with who we have at guard. I think Bird needs to sit Rush down and show him the single tweet that includes both his brother being signed and also waived. "Do you want this to be you in 9 months?" Right now, he can be the 3rd string 3 until he proves worth more. I also think Inferno is not getting a fair shake here as well. If he's the end of your 2-guard string, you're in good shape.

    I'd bring in an insurance guy for the 5 and save the rest of my money. Crawford at 5/yr would be a good contract, but I just don't think he's necessary.

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    I'd like all the depth I can get, I really would, especially this year, but there is a part of me that want PG to get as many minutes as he can handle without deferring to some of these other me-first offense kind of guys, because paul will definitely sacrifice for the good of others, I definitely think developing PG is the best thing we can do right now for the future of the Franchise.

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    Sources tell ESPN that Mavs are in advanced discussions to deal Rudy Fernandez to Denver Nuggets for future draft considerations

    Does that mean Denver wouldn't match Afflalo?
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    Sources tell ESPN that Mavs are in advanced discussions to deal Rudy Fernandez to Denver Nuggets for future draft considerations

    Does that mean Denver wouldn't match Afflalo?
    Man if the Pacers could work out a deal with Afflalo they should! I would much rather have him than Crawford or Mayo.

    I could still see Denver matching Afflalo though but if not the Pacers should be trying to sign him. He would be a fantastic signing.

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    Sources tell ESPN that Mavs are in advanced discussions to deal Rudy Fernandez to Denver Nuggets for future draft considerations

    Does that mean Denver wouldn't match Afflalo?
    They have a ton of cap room so I bet they would. They probably want Rudy as a backup.

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    Some have brought up Rodney Stuckey. Let's say he'd agree to be a shooting guard (which is what he really is anyway). Can he create his own shot effectively? How much do you think he would cost per year?

    Other than Stuckey, who else is still an interesting free agent at SG?

    Then on the other hand, what about trades?
    I know that KStat doesn't like it...but I'd send DC in a S&T of Stuckey for whatever amount of $$$ is reasonable to have Stuckey run the point...then go out and make a run at Reggie Williams if all we want it a scorer.
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    Restricted free agent Marco Belinelli has signed the $3.4M qualifying offer to stay in New Orleans, source says.
    For me, Bellineli is the man behind curtain # 194319.
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    I'll be honest I don't recall who Reggie Williams even is. Off to Google I go...
    Just remember this, his defense is pathetic.

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    I know that KStat doesn't like it...but I'd send DC in a S&T of Stuckey for whatever amount of $$$ is reasonable to have Stuckey run the point...then go out and make a run at Reggie Williams if all we want it a scorer.
    DC is going to be better this year than a lot of people realize. The Pistons spent a high lottery pick on a PG because Stuckey isn't one.

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    I've repeatedly said I don't want Crawford, but for 5 mil per for 2 years, I won't complain about that. That's good value.

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    I would love Rudy Fernandez, he can score and plays D pretty well.

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    It looks like Fernandez is on his way to Denver, and Corey Brewer might be coming with him.

    Nuggets To Acquire Fernandez From Mavs - RealGM Wiretap

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    The Mavericks are in advanced trade talks with the Nuggets on Rudy Fernandez. Denver would send future draft considerations in return.

    HoopsHype is reporting that a trade has been agreed upon, though Marc Stein reports that the Nuggets are also interested in Corey Brewer and that the deal could be expanded.


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    It looks like Fernandez is on his way to Denver, and Corey Brewer might be coming with him.

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