Gordon can be a heck of a player. So can Paul. As a Pacer fan, I hope to hell it's Paul.
Hayward shot lights out last year, 48.5% from floor and 47.3% from three. As a rookie, that's absolutely insane. But Hayward is NOT the defender nor has the potential as a defender that Paul does.
So based only on rookie year, Hayward's a better shooter and passer. Paul's a better rebounder and defender. You should learn a LOT about both this year.
Paul's no slouch as a passer, either.
It's impossible to say who will be better, George or Gordon. But pacer fans thinking the Jazz screwed up their draft by taking Gordon before George are full of it.
When it comes to biased people on this forum, you are always the first person that comes to my mind. I actually was about to post something along the lines of "here comes graphic-er to talk Hayward up" when this thread was first made, but I couldn't remember your username.
How in the hell can you claim your not biased when you made the most ridiculous comparisons about him before hand, and even after we drafted George did nothing but talk about Hayward 24/7. I would actually think over half your posts are Hayward/Butler related.
That leaves us with one of two scenarios: You are either very biased, or your evaluation of talent makes Isiah Thomas look like the best basketball mind in the world.
All that said, I like Hayward just fine, but you constantly put him up on a hall of famers pedastool, then claim not to be biased.
At least admit it..
Don't hate on my Butler guy. Hayward isn't going to be another Steve Alford in the league. He has a super high basketball IQ and has a sweet shot. And he added 15 pounds of muscle this season. Besides being a video game nerd, he is also a stat geek. Having the ability to properly analyze your opponent in depth is a valuable skill. I'm sure he had carried the Law of Averages (Brad Stevens) with him to the NBA.
This is most ridiculous BS I've ever read about myself on here.
1. I've never started more than one thread on here about Gordon Hayward.
2. There were just as many draft posts about Paul George prior to the draft as there were about Gordon Hayward. It was a legit debate because the Pacers and Jazz drafted so close together.
3. After the draft, I no longer posted much of anything about Hayward. The posts you seem to recall were actually my replies to others making derrogative posts about me and my uber Hayward fandom. AND I've pointed this out several times on this board. Post like:
"Hopefully he doesn't release an album. Graphic-er will lose his life's savings trying to make it platinum." - Dr. Awesome (I didn't even post in that thread, so clearly you bring up Hayward and me with out provocation too)
Perception is not reality, go back and read the threads.
I did not make any more ridiculous comparisons as those who immediately said Paul George = Tracy McGrady, before the guy played a game.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
Everybody jump me
seriously its my fault. I knew that posting anything on Gordon Heyward would rattle people up, but im an instigator by trade
but hell, its better than all the lockout crap we suffered through for 6 plus months
Sittin on top of the world!
The coach at that time also thought Troy Murphy was the greatest thing on Earth!
"Nobody wants to play against Tyler Hansbrough NO BODY!" ~ Frank Vogel
"And David put his hand in the bag and took out a stone and slung it. And it struck the Philistine on the head and he fell to the ground. Amen. "
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and your words are a little strong my friend
anyday you want to have a quizz to see who knows more about Pacer basketball, your own
I ll put up 3 stacks
before my time? no sir. I vivdly rememebr Bird and Person battling each other in a terrific playoff game
Sittin on top of the world!