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    Did Pritchard have anything to do with Murphy for Collison? Did he have anything to do with the George Hill trade? Did he have anything to do with the Mayo deal that fell apart at last year's deadline (of which this new deal is nearly identical)

    Was Pritchard part of the group that flew out to see Nene? Then why should we believe he had anything to do with signing West?

    After all the **** Bird has caught over the years, trying to give Pritchard the credit for recent moves is total BS. Give the man his due.
    Itís become beyond comical how the Bird antagonists continue to grasp for anything to discount his achievements. I mean, the guy was literally backed into a corner with 4 of the worst contracts in the NBA (Murphy, Dunleavy, Tins, JO). Iím sorry, but no one is going to give you a Tyreke Evans for our crap. He was patient and capitalized where he could (Hibbert, Collison, George Hill, and West). IMO, he also nailed the draft (Hibbert, Hans, George, Lance, AJ, etc). Rush was our only wiff, and itís not like we passed on a franchise player in the process.

    Bird has done an excellent job turning a team with no future into one of the most promising young teams in the league.

    The funniest thing is that the Bird antagonists never seem to disclose what they would have done differently. Please do so, and be specific (draft, trades, FA, etc).

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    Unless you work in the Pacers FO you don't know anything for sure. It's possible that Pritch is doing most of the phone negotiating and making the suggestions for trade scenarios. Personally I think it's probably all three bouncing ideas off each other.
    Maybe, but one thing is definite = Larry Bird is making the decisions. End of story. If this stuff blows up, he, not Pritchard will take the heat. So, let's just give Bird his props so far. It just hurts some on here to admit that Bird is doing a very good job!

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    It's El Pacero.

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    Unless you work in the Pacers FO you don't know anything for sure. It's possible that Pritch is doing most of the phone negotiating and making the suggestions for trade scenarios. Personally I think it's probably all three bouncing ideas off each other.
    His point was that all the moves he mentioned occurred before Pritchard was hired; therefore those moves couldn't have been Pritchard's doing.

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    Why can't it be all three.

    I had a post basically saying this, then someone phoned me and something happened that wouldn't allow it to be posted. If all 3 aren't involved in these trades, someone isn't doing their jobs.

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    Bird, he brought Pritchard in.

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    For those of you that think Bird is patient... Were you not here for the Donnie Walsh years? The Bird era (once Walsh was gone) has been like a free wheeling, don't let any moss grow, firestorm in comparison.

    As for who is actually pulling off the trades and deals... I have no idea but I am going to assume there's a synergy involved with people in the FO having a dedicated role in the process and common vision. That's something that I couldn't see happening with both Walsh and Bird here because there's just no way I could picture them on the same page.
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    I think it's Tim Tebow.

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    It's Bird, and it's sad if anyone doubts it.
    He's patient and frugal which is what why we need him in charge for a long time to come.
    Pritchard is an asset, but if he were calling the shots our cap space would be spent by now.

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    For those of you that think Bird is patient... Were you not here for the Donnie Walsh years?
    I remember him... he's the guy that blew up the talented and competitive 2000 team because he was convinced it would never be a contender, right? And restocked with young talent without missing the playoffs?

    Yeah, I could see how he'd look like a "slow and safe moves" kinda guy.
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    I remember him... he's the guy that blew up the talented and competitive 2000 team because he was convinced it would never be a contender, right? And restocked with young talent without missing the playoffs?

    Yeah, I could see how he'd look like a "slow and safe moves" kinda guy.
    He didn't get the name Donnie Do Nothing from me... I believe that came from a local media source.

    But the point remains, the amount of roster turnover and level of the moves since Walsh left makes Walsh look like he was in slow motion. Or maybe he was in slow motion.....

    If it all can culminate into something is another story... But don't try and pretend there's any comparison in their approach.
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    He didn't get the name Donnie Do Nothing from me... I believe that came from a local media source.
    I thought he got it from Peck and DougAdams.
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    I thought he got it from Peck
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    Looks like neither...

    For the first time in quite a while I am really pissed @ the FO/TPTB!!!
    IF reports of the OJ/Rush are true, only now to be followed up by missing out on JCraw, WTF is Larry (& Pritchard) doing?
    Mackey has been stead fast to his claim that Bird lost Mayo because of Ruch, yet we had cap$ & a roster spot, so to waiste all that time, TWICE, only to **** it up BOTH TIMES over Rush is stupid! He may want to make Rush go, but he has seemingly only compounded the fact that Rush *his draft pick) is not in this teams future by trying so hard to move him, he has missed out on a player he obviously likes & it has cost us in our rebuild effort TWICE!!! Rush may be a dope smoking twitter embarassment, but what is Larry for ****ing up the same trade, TWICE?

    -Am I the only one who does not get this?
    -Am I the only one that sees Larry is making the Rush situation worse?


    This is not even about Mayo, JCraw on any one player, it is about what & why the FO is blowing opportunities when there is ample room under the cap. We have been talking for 3 yrs about having "assets", yet we just had an opportunity to land a lottery-talent for a throw in 2nd rd. guy, & we threw up on ourselves - for the second time!!!

    PD'ers, please explain to me why we should NOT all be pissed by this.
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    Looks like neither...


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    I'm mad a them for getting another stop gap player but I'm no really mad a them for not getting Mayo or Crawford, one thing I can agree is that there was no need to try to push Brandon Rush up Memphis a** and I do think he is missing on Crawford for trying to low ball him.

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    First time "what have you done for us lately" meant "in the last 12-24 hours".
    The Mayo talk is +/- 9 months & 2 blown opportunities ago, far more then a 12-24 hr. discusion. We have been hearing about adding another scorer since before the FA period started. Now we are putting out the word that we are no longer buyers in FA & are concentrating on the season.
    Starting the season with FAR less then what we could have/ should have had!
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    We added two scorers this offseason.

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