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    This would be a huge steal. I still dont understand why Memphis would let Mayo go for McBob. Josh would only fill a back-up role as the 4th best big for them (behind Arthur, who was great in the playoffs). This is something they can get through signing without having to give up a potential future star at best, career starter at worst in Mayo.

    Indeed, id be thrilled if we pulled this off.


    Memphis has more wings than an ostrich farm and are short on bigs.

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    I suspect Pacers will give a pick of some sort, which would be perfect with the grizz payroll. Besides, Pacers has leverage on Grizz. Offer Sheet anyone.


    Hold the Mayo. Bird isn't going to help out Memphis with McBob, Cap, and a PICK.

    After more thought, maybe a 2nd round pick or Stanko.
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    Default Re: Pacers expected to reach out to O.J. Mayo (with Crawford to NY)

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    Granger / George
    Mayo / Hill
    Collison / Hill

    What's not to like with one of the best rotational backcourts in the NBA.
    The point guard spot prevents it from even being in the conversation.

    Edit: Actually both guard spots. Jesus, that isn't even close.
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    I'm putting on my conspiracy hat.....this leads to the question of whether the Pacers offer a MAX to Gasol at all...thus forcing the Grizzlies to match and putting them in a position to WANT to clear some capspace....while forcing the Grizzlies to pursue a S&T involving McBob and Mayo.

    Just throwing it out there....but if I were Bird, I'd subtly suggest to the Grizzlies that the Pacers WON'T make a MAX contract offer to Gasol ( thus letting them sign Gasol to whatever contract that THEY....not us...want ) in exchange for a S&T involving McBob with Mayo.
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    If this were to materialize, I would hand the PG keys to Hill and shop around Collison, Rush, cap space, and picks for a PF. I'm not sold on Collison as a starter on a contending team. B/c George can play both the 2 & 3, we could role out a George, Danny, Mayo wing rotation, all getting 25+ mins per night.

    Hill/Lance
    George/Mayo
    Danny/George
    Trade PF/Hans
    Hibbert/Foster

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    I'm putting on my conspiracy hat.....this leads to the question of whether the Pacers offer a MAX to Gasol at all...thus forcing the Grizzlies to match and putting them in a position to WANT to clear some capspace....while forcing the Grizzlies to pursue a S&T involving McBob and Mayo.

    Just throwing it out there....but if I were Bird, I'd subtly suggest to the Grizzlies that the Pacers WON'T make a MAX contract offer to Gasol ( thus letting them sign Gasol to whatever contract that THEY....not us...want ) in exchange for a S&T involving McBob with Mayo.
    Exactly

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    If this were to materialize, I would hand the PG keys to Hill and shop around Collison, Rush, cap space, and picks for a PF. I'm not sold on Collison as a starter on a contending team. B/c George can play both the 2 & 3, we could role out a George, Danny, Mayo wing rotation, all getting 25+ mins per night.

    Hill/Lance
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    Danny/George
    Trade PF/Hans
    Hibbert/Foster
    Exactly my thoughts. These are just the pieces I wouldn't mind giving up if it nets us someone like Millsap. I also have the feeling like Bird and our FO thinks this way too. They try to get a PG/2guard that can create for his own and we desperately need an upgrade at PF.
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    Although as was stated we are starting to get heavy at the guard spots.

    Would Mayo be ok with coming off of the bench?
    True. OTOH it's yet another asset which we could use in a trade later on. I heard some chatter that George might be better fitted at SF instead of SG. Maybe the brass are wanting to use this year to see how he develops. IF they are very satisfied with it then all of a sudden they could think Danny is more expandable and George could fill his shoes at SF, while at SG/PG we would have: Hill, Mayo, Collison battling for the starting spots and the left over minutes and minutes when one or the before mentioned gets injured going to Stephenson and Jones. Seems like a rotation. At the sametime one of these players could be used in a trade aswell. They are all still very young and if they play well the coming season...

    Anyway, I'm all for it. I think we have Memphis a bit by the balls maybe. They still need to resign Gasol, but if we decide to go for Mayo first and they match they would have to really do some good calculating whether they would still be able to keep Gasol. IF this is the case, then I like it.
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    Marc Stein: Sources also tell ESPN that, as @Mike Wells predicted, Pacers and Grizzlies again engaged Josh McRoberts/OJ Mayo talks. This time S-and-T 2 minutes ago

    Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1gFswmGEM
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    Would rather have Mayo than Crawford. Imo, Mayo still has maturity issues... All-world talent, hasn't come close to achieving it... but took a step in the right direction in last year's playoffs.

    you nailed it. OJ has some serious upside due to his talent and skill level. and i believe this is the year he will finally piece it together, with his crazy workouts during the lockout.

    George Hill is a combo guard , just like OJ is. But Hill is more PG ish whereas OJ is more SG ish.

    If somehow you guys are able to commit a robbery and get OJ. I'd seriously would hope that FO look to deal Darren Collison. Collison is too much of a liability defensive when it comes to guarding Derrick Rose who you guys will obviously most likely meet again in the playoffs. Hill,Mayo, George will take turns trying to contain Rose.

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    I would like to get Mayo.

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    Sources also tell ESPN that, as @MikeWellsNBA predicted, Pacers and Grizzlies again engaged Josh McRoberts/OJ Mayo talks. This time S-and-T

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    Well hell, that's great news. I'd love to get OJ here.

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    I would like to get Mayo.
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    I would like to get Mayo.
    Wait, we agree?

    That means if it happens it'll work like a dream, or a disaster. I'm not sure which.

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    I supported this deal at the deadline. I was regretful after the playoffs that it didn't happen. Again, I would love to see this happen. Collison, Hill, George, Mayo and Granger is a good rotation. Don't care who starts at the moment. More penetration than last year with Mayo, more shooting with Hill (and maybe more with an improved George). Only thing that is missing is a point that can get others involved, though I'd be willing to see if Collison can improve there with more options. Wouldn't mind moving him for Rondo, either, but that is a dream scenario.

    I'd give Memphis extras to make it happen, too. Price, who they could cut and save some cash. Picks, Stanko, whatever.

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    is OJ a good defender?

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    is OJ a good defender?
    When he wants to, he's above average to good. Half of the time or more he's below average to average.

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    He can be when motivated. He's good in passing lanes too.

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    I would think we have to include a pick in this deal. Couldn't Memphis just salary dump Mayo on a team needing a SG (MN) and then sign Josh outright?

    Is Rush still worth a late pick?

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    Do it Larry!

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    If we get Mayo without giving up a 1st, that trade not going through at the deadline is the luckiest thing to ever happen to us.

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    When he wants to, he's above average to good. Half of the time or more he's below average to average.
    He is an just above an average defender IMO. There are nights though he plays excellent defense. He is a better defender than he gets credit for.

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    Maybe we can talk Memphis into Granger / Rush / McRoberts for Gasol / Mayo. At least we would get Gasol out of the deal, while giving additional opportunity at the wing for all of our young players, and not have to worry about Granger's contract in future years when we are trying to actually put some money together to sign a superstar.

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    Maybe we can talk Memphis into Granger / Rush / McRoberts for Gasol / Mayo. At least we would get Gasol out of the deal, while giving additional opportunity at the wing for all of our young players, and not have to worry about Granger's contract in future years when we are trying to actually put some money together to sign a superstar.
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    This is the most excited I've been in 2 days! Get it done Bird!

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