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    Default Re: Pacers expected to reach out to O.J. Mayo (with Crawford to NY)

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    By the way I would like to know what would be Mcbob's motivation to help the Pacers?
    so he can get more the the mini MLE he isnt trying to help the Pacers he wants $$.

    I still think he will get near what Glen Davis got. If I was his agent that is who I would use as an example.

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    By the way I would like to know what would be Mcbob's motivation to help the Pacers?
    Because he would (possibly) be getting more money with this trade than he would be signing outright as a free agent.

    Of course, he could just refuse to be a part of this out of spite, but I think he's a little more mature than that.
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    I was against the trade before but if we are going to let Josh walk for free then getting Mayo would be a nice little suprise to replace him.

    Although as was stated we are starting to get heavy at the guard spots.

    Would Mayo be ok with coming off of the bench?


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    What role would Mayo fill? Starting SG? And if so, what happens to PG? I don't like it...

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    Default Re: Pacers expected to reach out to O.J. Mayo (with Crawford to NY)

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    I would like Mayo because he can fit for the future plans and I don't like West because he doesn't fit those plans.
    As long as we are a playoff caliber team, David West will be a good rental for 2 years. If we weren't going to make the playoffs I'd agree, but as it stands now, adding him will only help.

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    What role would Mayo fill? Starting SG? And if so, what happens to PG? I don't like it...
    6th man? IIRC he wasn't the starter in Memphis.

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    Mayo for McBob?

    Once again, yes, please.

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    I'd live with it, but I'm surprised we still have interest now that we have George Hill and the continued development of Lance Stephenson.

    My guess is it will be a redo of the the deal at the deadline that fell through. Josh (S&T) to Memphis for Mayo.
    Yep. I won't be offended if we do it, but I'd be somewhat surprised if it happened.

    I assume we would be punting both Rush and Jones shortly thereafter. At the very least one of them.

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    I was against the trade before but if we are going to let Josh walk for free then getting Mayo would be a nice little suprise to replace him.

    Although as was stated we are starting to get heavy at the guard spots.

    Would Mayo be ok with coming off of the bench?
    He came off the bench in Memphis and appeared fine with it.

    I think he'd potentially start here.

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    What role would Mayo fill? Starting SG? And if so, what happens to PG? I don't like it...
    I think it makes our bench really deep now plus it makes us super flexible for future trades.

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    By the way I would like to know what would be Mcbob's motivation to help the Pacers?
    Actually this is a very good point. Memphis isn't a taxpayer - they'll have the full MLE available. That should be true even after they re-sign Gasol to a max or near max contract. So far, their only signing is Jeremy Pargo, 2 years $2m who should fit into the LLE. So they should have their MLE intact.

    Of course, if McBob wants more than the MLE, then he'll have to cooperate on a S&T. Never in my wildest dreams though did I think he can get an above MLE contract. Or else if Memphis is saving their MLE for someone else.
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    Mayo was my favorite player coming out of the 2008 draft. If he was the first option of his team, he would be putting up some pretty good numbers. But that can be said about many other players. i don't know what has happened to him this past year. I'm pretty sure he was mad about moving to the bench last year. He is a starter in this league.

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    What role would Mayo fill? Starting SG? And if so, what happens to PG? I don't like it...
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    Mayo will probably fit in better than Crawford. Plus he's younger and we won't need to spend a fortune.

    I'm excited to see a Hill and Mayo guard lineup if we decide to either start or have Mayo off the bench as the SG.

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    Would rather have Mayo than Crawford. Imo, Mayo still has maturity issues... All-world talent, hasn't come close to achieving it... but took a step in the right direction in last year's playoffs.
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    I would love to get Mayo, if he has a good season and proves he can be a legitimate scorer for us, we can then move Danny if need be and move PG to the 3.

    If everything with Mayo were to go well, we could move Danny and Collison for a point guard, maybe Rondo, or someone like that.

    Over all, I like it a lot. You can never have too much talent.

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    Great talent, still young, reasonable contract. I'm all for it. Do it Larry - I hope this goes through, no risk here
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    This would be a huge steal. I still dont understand why Memphis would let Mayo go for McBob. Josh would only fill a back-up role as the 4th best big for them (behind Arthur, who was great in the playoffs). This is something they can get through signing without having to give up a potential future star at best, career starter at worst in Mayo.

    Indeed, id be thrilled if we pulled this off.

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    This would be a huge steal. I still dont understand why Memphis would let Mayo go for McBob. Josh would only fill a back-up role as the 4th best big for them (behind Arthur, who was great in the playoffs). This is something they can get through signing without having to give up a potential future star at best, career starter at worst in Mayo.

    Indeed, id be thrilled if we pulled this off.
    I suspect Pacers will give a pick of some sort, which would be perfect with the grizz payroll. Besides, Pacers has leverage on Grizz. Offer Sheet anyone.
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    wonder how angry people will get if this trade falls through twice cause the last fallout fromt his situation was pretty over the top

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    I would rather have Mayo than Crawford. S&T with McRoberts would mean Josh will get 5-6 million as well. Without looking I believe Mayo makes 5.4 this year off the top of my head.

    Plus, if Mayo doesn't work , I believe he has a QO next year for 7 mil that the Pacers don't have to pick up. IOW, he could be a 1 and done which makes this S&T even look better not being tied into a numerous year contract.

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    I think Mayo played himself out of our reach. He had a pretty good end to last season. It would take alot more than what we offered last year.

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    Because he would (possibly) be getting more money with this trade than he would be signing outright as a free agent.

    Of course, he could just refuse to be a part of this out of spite, but I think he's a little more mature than that.


    Let him, the Pacers just outright give Memphis Cap which would help them sign Gasol. He isn't going to stop Mayo to the Pacers by refusing a S&T. He'll just narrows his options of teams wanting him. Really, just how many are beating his door down to sign him?

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    I think Mayo played himself out of our reach. He had a pretty good end to last season. It would take alot more than what we offered last year.
    It's about money. After Gasol gets his deal, they're going to be awfully close to the tax number. They would be pushing it to sign Josh outright. However to replace Mayo's salary with a similar one in the front court would help them.

    They're at 52 million with Gasol's qualifying offer. His real salary is going to push that number 8-9 million higher, I would suspect.

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    It's about money. After Gasol gets his deal, they're going to be awfully close to the tax number. They would be pushing it to sign Josh outright. However to replace Mayo's salary with a similar one in the front court would help them.
    True, I just don't think they would value Josh over Mayo anymore.

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