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    So CP3, Billups, and Mo Williams? Okay...

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    I don't see why they wouldn't amnesty Mo. He's the highest paid guy on the team after Kaman (or Paul).

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    I don't see why they wouldn't amnesty Mo. He's the highest paid guy on the team after Kaman (or Paul).
    I think they will.

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    ESPN's Broussard says the league is pushing to talk to the Clips some more

    http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/s...-clippers-push

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    Again since this whole issue seems lost on everybody:

    To quote David Stern from December of 2010 when asked how the league would handle transactions by Demps:
    So you've never taken back anything you've ever said? Maybe common sense tells us that Stern had more confidence in Demps than he should have, and didn't think he would bring him a pile of crap to approve. Demps fired himself for all practical purposes by trying to make such a horrible deal for NOH.

    And notice the quote. "we're going to be approving it." It clearly indicates that Demps had to bring every trade to their attention, and get their approval first. If he didn't need their approval, then he would have just said, he can do whatever he wants.

    And I like I've already pointed out, this isn't some LA conspiracy, or the Hornets and Lakers wouldn't have wasted yet another day trying to get the deal done. If Stern vetoed the trade, because it was the Lakers, they wouldn't have continued negotiating.

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    Gilbert's letter was mailed AFTER the trade was vetoed. It had nothing to do with it.

    Are you sure about that? Why would he send an email like that if the trade had already been vetoed? His email sounds like someone who is upset about a trade that is going to happen, not someone who is writing about something that has already been cancelled.

    It was leaked to the media after the trade was cancelled, but did he send it to Stern before Stern vetoed it? I thought he did.

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    However, the Yahoo! Sports Staff obtained an email sent from Gilbert to Stern in which he explicitly urged the Commissioner stop the trade. Initially it was believed that Gilbert's lobbying against the trade may have factored into Stern's decision, however, Wojnarowski, later tweeted that a timestamp on the email indicated it was sent after 10 p.m. when the trade had already been vetoed.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1138642.html

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    So CP3, Billups, and Mo Williams? Okay...
    The Clippers wanna be successful like Minnesota.

    It's a Kahn-spiracy.

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    Using what the Jazz acquired for Deron Williams as the standard, I don't think Chris Paul's current price tag is unreasonable.

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    Favors was, at that point, the current #2 overall pick in the draft, and the Nets had a 17-40 record at the time of the deal (the pick ended up #3 [Enes Kanter]). Throw in a point guard two-years removed from the All-Star Game, Harris, and an additional 1st round pick, and I'd say that compares to what New Orleans' management is demanding for Paul.

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    Thanks, didn't know that. That does change my perspective.

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    The Hornets and David Stern: NBA fans really do not like the situation that is playing out in New Orleans involving Chris Paul. It stinks of collusion, it stinks of bad management – it just stinks.

    Before you pass too much judgment on this brutally botched process, consider how we got here.

    Last year George Shinn was trying to sell the Hornets to minority owner Gary Chouest. Sources say Shinn was refusing to put any more money into the Hornets and when the BP oil spill hit the Gulf Coast, Chouest’s Edison Chouest Offshore took a major hit from suspended oil drilling, which combined with a hefty asking price killed a potential deal.

    Sources say Shinn was going to default on loan payments, which would have caused a ripple effect impacting every NBA team that owed money – either in risk-related rate increases or outright debt calls from investors fearful for their money.

    Sources at the time pointed to the cost of the domino effect one team defaulting would have on all of the team as being more expensive than buying the team. So the NBA and its 29 owners agreed to buy the team.

    Since owning the team the NBA has treated the franchise like a “fixer up” house. They have pumped tons of resources into the Hornets on every front turning around the business outlook of the team.

    Sources say there is a “ready-for-signature” sweetheart arena lease that would keep the team in New Orleans through 2025. The Hornets have 10,000 season tickets sold for this season. There are plans to renovate and improve the building. There are tax inducements and benefits in place and even a new TV deal that could swell the broadcast revenue maybe even three fold.

    To put it bluntly – the Hornets are now positioned and priced to sell.

    Enter the Chris Paul saga.

    No one expects that Chris Paul will stay in New Orleans beyond this season. However if Chris is going to be traded, he has to return a future for the franchise.

    The NBA has spent hundreds of man-hours working on the business side to make this team attractive to would-be buyers, they cannot afford – literally – to allow a deal on the basketball side that ties the team to long-term contract money and no future.

    No offense to Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and Lamar Odom – who would have landed in New Orleans as part of the now-dead Lakers deal – but those players are at or past their prime, and on high dollar contracts.

    None of them draw a national TV audience, and none of them are marquee enough to sell a season ticket around. They might win basketball games, but this isn’t about winning basketball games yet.

    The L.A. Clippers deal is almost there in terms of what the NBA wants in return for Chris Paul – a deal built around young guys on their rookie deals and an unprotected first round pick.

    Fans want to believe this is about David Stern wanting to steer players… and at some level maybe that’s true.

    But what all of this is really about is ultimately selling the Hornets.

    The NBA wants the Hornets to look like a can’t-miss investment for an owner… the NBA has put the paint on the house, installed new appliances and added new carpet… they cannot allow the basketball operation side to park a used car in the driveway just as they are trying to sell it.

    Young guys, draft picks and a promising future will be the “bow on the top” that gets this sold, and that’s why the NBA is being aggressive about what the Hornets get back for Paul.

    A clean slate full of young guys and draft picks is a lot more attractive to a would-be owner who can then mold the team his way, rather than a roster full of guys that have two or three years left that handcuff the owner to high dollar salaries with no flexibility.

    Chris Paul is going to be traded. That is going to happen soon, but the deal that gets it done will be a lot more about enhancing the sale value of then Hornets and a lot less about anything else.

    You may not like how this is playing out, but this is about business first and the NBA’s desire to flip the Hornets in a sale as quickly as they can.



    This is the rest of the story.

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    I don't think that Clippers offer - the one in which the Hornets get to choose Eric Gordon or the Minny pick - is going anywhere in the next couple of months, so no need for New Orleans to rush to a deal.

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    Possibly b/c we are all Pacer fans here...
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    I don't think that Clippers offer - the one in which the Hornets get to choose Eric Gordon or the Minny pick - is going anywhere in the next couple of months, so no need for New Orleans to rush to a deal.
    LAC is working on a long-term extension with Gordon, so that deal is actually gone.

    NOLA can have the minnesota pick, or nothing. The clippers have all the leverage here.

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    LAC is working on a long-term extension with Gordon, so that deal is actually gone.

    NOLA can have the minnesota pick, or nothing. The clippers have all the leverage here.

    So Aminu, Bledsoe, and Minny's unprotected pick is basically the offer?

    How does that stack up with the IND/BOS three team deal?

    Hansbrough, Collison, Rush, Green, Bradley, Clipper's 1st (from Boston), Indy's 1st?

    I still want Rondo!
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