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Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

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  • #16
    Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

    Billups is a lot classier than some of the characters who have been pacers so we would be lucky to get him for a year. As to his not wanting to be a pacer how does anyone exactly know that?

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    • #17
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      I'd like to see us bid on him.
      This space for rent.

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      • #18
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        Remember that world champion team Danny was on? He said Billups was the leader of it.

        I would do a one year rental easy. The problem is we would be top heavy with points.
        Collison, Price, Hill, Stephenson, and Billups. Of course Hill and Stephenson could play the 2 too.

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        • #19
          Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

          I would like to see him here. A great guy and very clutch. Maybe he gets here and likes how things go in Indiana and maybe we can keep ahold of him several years. It would put a log jam at the wing spots but maybe this will be cleared up with a trade in the future to get a big man.

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          • #20
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            I might have changed my mind about this...


            “I’ m tired of being the good guy,” Billups told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Saturday afternoon. “I’m tired of being viewed as the guy. After a while, you just kind of get taken advantage of in these situations. I’ve been known as a leader, and I am a leader, but a leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive, especially when you carry a strong voice and people rally around you. This is about me now. This is about me, and teams should know that right now.”


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            • #21
              Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

              Originally posted by Banta View Post
              I might have changed my mind about this...


              “I’ m tired of being the good guy,” Billups told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Saturday afternoon. “I’m tired of being viewed as the guy. After a while, you just kind of get taken advantage of in these situations. I’ve been known as a leader, and I am a leader, but a leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive, especially when you carry a strong voice and people rally around you. This is about me now. This is about me, and teams should know that right now.”
              Same here, I lost all respect that I had for Billups after reading this about him.
              When I die I want to be buried upside down so all my critics can kiss my @$$ - Bobby Knight

              I would walk thru hell in a gasoline suit to play the game of baseball - Pete Rose

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              • #22
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                I didn't respect him in the first place, so nothing has changed for me!

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                • #23
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                  http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slu..._waiver_121011

                  Here is the link to the story and the rest of it.

                  Billups warns teams not to claim him off waivers

                  By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

                  As Chauncey Billups prepares to have his name entered into the NBA’s amnesty waiver wire, he has a message for teams considering putting in a bid to secure him for the rest of the season: You’ll regret it.

                  He wants the freedom of free agency to choose a contender, Billups says. As one of the game’s great leaders, and gentlemen, Billups warns that player will be a distant memory should a team claim him off the amnesty waiver wire.

                  “I’ m tired of being the good guy,” Billups told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Saturday afternoon. “I’m tired of being viewed as the guy. After a while, you just kind of get taken advantage of in these situations. I’ve been known as a leader, and I am a leader, but a leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive, especially when you carry a strong voice and people rally around you. This is about me now. This is about me, and teams should know that right now.”


                  The Knicks picked up Billups’ $14.2 million option for the 2011-’12 season, but used the new amnesty provision on him so that they could sign free agent Tyson Chandler. Under the new rule, the team that offers to pay the highest portion of his contract can secure him in a blind bidding process. The Knicks will be left to pay for the remainder of the deal.

                  If Billups goes unclaimed, he can sign as a free agent. The Miami Heat would be a strong possibility for him, among several contenders. Billups, 34, has been one of his generation’s great leaders and players, turning the Detroit Pistons and Denver Nuggets into major contenders. Billups won a title with Detroit in 2004.

                  “I just don’t deserve the treatment that I’ve continually gotten,” Billups said. “Historically, these things never happen to the supposed great players and good guys. They continually happen to me, and it gets old. Listen, I feel I’ve been blessed in the game, and I’ve been given back, but these things start to wear on you. But there’s not another guy in history who keeps dealing with this, getting thrown into these things to make the money right. I really believe it’s because people take my kindness and professionalism for weakness. They think I’ll be OK with this. I won’t be OK with this. I’ve saved my money. I may just retire if I don’t get my freedom here.

                  “I want my freedom. My goal is to control my own destiny. And as you’ve seen in my career, I’ve never been in a position to do that. I know some teams out there are saying, ‘Oh, Chauncey will be great in mentoring’ and I’m tired of that. I’ve got a few good years left to play, and I’m not trying to come in and sit on the bench, or be a mentor. I’m not going to be that guy. I want to go somewhere and win. I want to choose.”


                  I have mixed feelings on this. I understand him wanting to go and win, but I also don't like the precedent that players can hijack the system in order to go where they want to. They did agree to this when they approved the deal.

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                  • #24
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                    Billups: Knicks 'a couple pieces short' of title
                    December, 10, 2011
                    By Ian O'Connor
                    Chauncey Billups wants to make one thing clear: He’s angry at the situation, but he’s not angry at the Knicks.

                    So when asked if he believes the team that just fired him is capable of winning a championship, the point guard was thinking with his head, not his heart.

                    “I think they are probably a couple of pieces short, but I won’t say what they are,” Billups said Saturday by phone.

                    The signing of Tyson Chandler gives the Knicks a frontcourt to die for, but leaves them deficient in the backcourt, Mike Bibby or no Mike Bibby.

                    “I want nothing but the best for Melo and Amare, and I love Tyson; I’m happy he got his money,” Billups said. “Don’t think I don’t want the Knicks to do well….But I do believe they undervalued what I brought to the table.”

                    Billups had some other interesting things to say about his former team, among them:

                    *He grew tired of the constant Chris Paul talk. “From the first day I got there, it was always about who was going to be the next point guard, without giving me a real chance. I get it, but at the same time my track record speaks for itself. Give me a real chance to prove I can be that guy. The whole deal with Denver was about Melo, and that’s understandable, he’s a young star in the league. But at the same time, I don’t think the Knicks valued what else they got in the deal.”

                    *He believes he might still be a Knick without the injuries suffered against the Magic and Celtics. “When I was healthy in New York, it was great. We were rolling after that win in Miami after the trade, and then I get the thigh contusion in Orlando. I come back, we get rolling again, and then I go down in the playoffs and the injury there affected the whole outlook of my short tenure with the Knicks. If I’m healthy against Boston, we’ve got a really good chance in that series. But once I got hurt, it’s like they forgot all about the impact I did have on that team.”

                    *Mike D’Antoni might have a tougher time running his team through Carmelo Anthony, instead of his point guard, than he thinks. “It’s a tough transition, especially in Mike’s system where the point guard is so important as someone to make plays for everybody else. Melo is a good playmaker, but he’s going to be called on to do that more. Toney (Douglas) is a good player, but he’s young. I don’t want to say they don’t have a point guard, but their best playmaker right now is Melo.

                    *On the possibility of signing with a team like Miami that might face the Knicks in the playoffs: “I would like a chance at them, I’ll tell you that much. I would absolutely love that.”

                    Well, we could give him that chance. Despite what he's said, I hope we bid aggressively for him.
                    "man, PG has been really good."

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                    • #25
                      Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

                      Originally posted by Ozwalt72 View Post
                      Well, we could give him that chance. Despite what he's said, I hope we bid aggressively for him.
                      If Billips would give the Pacers a shot at him, I think he could be happy hereand have a chance to beat the Knicks. He is going to have a chip on his shoulders and as long as he is playing for a team that he wants to play for he will probably be a big asset. Chauncey would be a huge asset for us andbe a mentor to Collisson. It sound like Chauncey has only 1 team on his mind and that is Miami.
                      When I die I want to be buried upside down so all my critics can kiss my @$$ - Bobby Knight

                      I would walk thru hell in a gasoline suit to play the game of baseball - Pete Rose

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                      • #26
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                        now that the lakers have pulled out of the chris paul situation I could see them easily extending an offer to billups.

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                        • #27
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                          The thought of a great Knicks/Pacers playoff series, with Chauncey here and looking for revenge on the team that kicked him to the curb, does sound awesome.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

                            Originally posted by Banta View Post
                            I might have changed my mind about this...


                            “I’ m tired of being the good guy,” Billups told Yahoo! Sports by phone on Saturday afternoon. “I’m tired of being viewed as the guy. After a while, you just kind of get taken advantage of in these situations. I’ve been known as a leader, and I am a leader, but a leader can be as disruptive as he can be productive, especially when you carry a strong voice and people rally around you. This is about me now. This is about me, and teams should know that right now.”
                            Sorry Chauncey. Nice try, but its all bark and no bite. (And don't discount his agent prodding him into this rant.)

                            He's not gonna walk away from 8 figures, despite all the rhetoric.

                            We could really use him, and a leopard does not change his spots. He would become our team leader immediately and would step up and make us a significantly better team for at least one year.

                            I hope the Pacers make a significant bid. And, I agree, we're not the worst place to end up. And we would indeed provide a forum for him to exact revenge on the Knicks in the playoffs.
                            "Look, it's up to me to put a team around ... Lance right now." —Kevin Pritchard press conference

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                            • #29
                              Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

                              But the idea of sport is that not everybody (individual players) can win championships. At this stage in his career and some of the deals he mentions he's been involved in, I have a little more sympathy for him. But, this entitlement attitude and players trying to so heavily dictate where they go is just nauseating.
                              I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.

                              -Emiliano Zapata

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                              • #30
                                Re: Wouldn't mind seeing Billups in Pacers uni

                                Billups to Pacers?

                                In the famous words of Andy Williams to Cookie Bear:


                                Not NOW

                                not EVER

                                NEVER!
                                So Long And Thanks For All The Fish.

                                If you've done 6 impossible things today?
                                Then why not have Breakfast at Milliways!

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