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    Default Pacers not looking at starting PF?

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-rumors...yler-12-01-11/

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    millsap and a 1rnd pick for granger, george takes his place and the pacers pick up crawford in free agency? sound like a sound plan?

    Steve Kyler

    The Pacers have ZERO interest in trading Danny Granger.

    Donít be surprised if the Pacers PF addition is Carl LandryÖ The Pacers would make a pass at Marc Gasol and maybe Tyson Chandler, but they like Tyler Hansborough and they want to use him going forward bringing in a 40 minute per game starter isnít what they are looking for.
    First I heard this, but couold be a covert way of saying we will take Laundry who is much cheaper than David West
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    If I had to bet money this is where we are headed. All other options will become too expensive.
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    I feel like so many people on PD give in to what these people have to say to public.

    Who the hell is Steve Kyler? The clown can't even spell Tyler Hansbrough.

    Of course we like Tyler, but that doesn't mean we can't expand at that position and have Tyler still playing a major role as the Sixth Man.
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    I feel like so many people on PD give in to what these people have to say to public.

    Who the hell is Steve Kyler? The clown can't even spell Tyler Hansbrough.

    Of course we like Tyler, but that doesn't mean we can't expand at that position and have Tyler still playing a major role as the Sixth Man.
    WHo plays 40 minutes in the NBA..... Drose?

    I hope he is wrong.

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    WHo plays 40 minutes in the NBA..... Drose?

    I hope he is wrong.
    Exactly.

    Shows this knucklehead doesn't even know what he's talking about regarding basketball.
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    He doesn't mean they want Tyler to play 40 minutes per game.

    He is saying that they aren't looking for a 40 minute per game guy, because they want Tyler to play 25+ minutes per game. Signing a guy who will command big minutes will prevent that.

    He's probably right, and he's not a knucklehead. WTF

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    He doesn't mean they want Tyler to play 40 minutes per game.

    He is saying that they aren't looking for a 40 minute per game guy, because they want Tyler to play 25+ minutes per game. Signing a guy who will command big minutes will prevent that.

    He's probably right, and he's not a knucklehead. WTF
    I think we know what he is saying its just dumb. No one plays 40 minutes in the NBA.

    Signing anyone of value will prevent Tyler from having bigger minutes. That doesn't mean you shouldn't sign a guy that is better than Tyler IMO.
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    i wouldn't mind Hansbrough. He has a bright future. That was just technically his rookie season, eh kind of but he plays well and hard every night.

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    I like Tyler and he's a huge piece to this team, but we could expand that position more and have his energy and hustle come off the bench to really spark the offense.

    Maybe it'll even put him in the running for the Sixth Man award if we're good enough.
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    Bird has repeatedly stated that he wants to make his bench stronger. That can be accomplished by either acquiring strong players to play behind your existing starters, or better yet, by acquiring players that are good enough to play ahead of your existing starters.

    I don't think we've learned anything from this. Just another guy throwing something against the wall to see if it sticks.

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    So, basically Kyler is saying that Bird is looking for a Hansbrough-like Player to play next to Hansbrough in the PF rotation?

    We'd essentially have 2 solid scoring but undersized PFs that are slightly below average rebounders playing 48 minutes a game at the PF rotation?

    Wow....where do I sign?

    Someone....quick....get the number of Mr.Kardasian to Bird....STAT!
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    I think we know what he is saying its just dumb. No one palys 40 minutes in the NBA.
    Actually it's not dumb, and people do play 40 minutes per game in the NBA, or damn close. I would say it's dumb to nit pick and be so literal about the term "40 minutes". The fact is Monta Ellis played 40 MPG last year, and the year before two players did it. So if you want to be literal about his use of 40 minutes, I'll be literal about your use of saying "No one" plays that much when they do. It goes both ways if you want to nit pick. Have at it.

    His point stands, and is legit. Your nitpicking of it is quite silly, and inaccurate to boot.

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    Actually it's not dumb, and people do play 40 minutes per game in the NBA, or damn close. I would say it's dumb to nit pick and be so literal about the term "40 minutes". The fact is Monta Ellis played 40 MPG last year, and the year before two players did it. So if you want to be literal about his use of 40 minutes, I'll be literal about your use of saying "No one" plays that much when they do. It goes both ways if you want to nit pick. Have at it.

    His point stands, and is legit. Your nitpicking of it is quite silly, and inaccurate to boot.
    Name a pf then? Anyone?

    Its a dumb comment PERIOD.

    Geshh name one pf available who has done it in their career.
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    This Steve Kyler guy is just another Joe Shmo speaking out of their ***.
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    If the Pacers want to play Tyler starter minutes then they should but don't give me this we only want to sign a guy who won't cut into his minutes. If he is a backup then he should have backup minutes IMO.

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    If the Pacers want to play Tyler starter minutes then they should but don't give me this we only want to sign a guy who won't cut into his minutes. If he is a backup then he should have backup minutes IMO.
    I would like for Tyler to obtain a similar role to Lamar Odom's.

    Steps into the PF position shifting Pau Gasol to center (usually) and Odom still plays a good amount of minutes.

    So that's where Nene would probably come in handy. He can play both the 4 and 5.
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    The closest guy who has played 40 minutes is David West and NO ONE expects him to do that again at 31 years of age coming off a ACL tear.

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    Name a pf then? Anyone?

    Its a dumb comment PERIOD.

    Geshh name one pf available who has done it in their career.
    Troy Murphy got close to 34mpg I think? he is also a free agent, I was looking at his number when he was with us and those numbers are similar to those of Tyson Chandler, should we expend the money in Troy Murphy as our center instead? he can be like Tyson Chandler right?

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    edit: 34mpg in 09 and 32min in 10mpg http://www.basketball-reference.com/...murphtr01.html

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    I would like for Tyler to obtain a similar role to Lamar Odom's.

    Steps into the PF position shifting Pau Gasol to center (usually) and Odom still plays a good amount of minutes.

    So that's where Nene would probably come in handy. He can play both the 4 and 5.
    IMO that worked out well for the Lakers because Bynum can't stay healthy for an entire season. With Hibby on his final year I would expect to trade him if we got Nene and wanted to give Tyler minutes.

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    Name a pf then? Anyone?
    Karl Malone, Tim duncan, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Garnett, Antione Walker, Antwan Jamison, Anthony Mason, Shareef Abdur Raheem, Lamar Odom have all played over 40 MPG in at least one season.

    Hell just last year Lamarcus Aldridge logged 39.6. Elton Brand had 39.6 in his career. Rashard Lewis playing PF had 39.5. David West had 39.2. Chris Bosh had 39.3. Dirk had 39.

    Hell, even Al Harrington played 38.6 in a year.

    This took me just a couple of minutes to find. Who knows what I would find if I took the time to look up more than just guys I can think of off the top of my head. It's not dumb, you just want it to be dumb.

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    Karl Malone, Tim duncan, Dennis Rodman, Kevin Garnett, Antione Walker, Antwan Jamison, Anthony Mason, Shareef Abdur Raheem, Lamar Odom have all played over 40 MPG in at least one season.

    Hell just last year Lamarcus Aldridge logged 39.6. Elton Brand had 39.6 in his career. Rashard Lewis playing PF had 39.5. David West had 39.2. Chris Bosh had 39.3. Dirk had 39.

    Hell, even Al Harrington played 38.6 in a year.

    This took me just a couple of minutes to find. It's not dumb, you just want it to be dumb.
    Of the guys we can get.......... NO ONE IS PLAYING 40 MINUTES. THATS WHY ITS DUMB.

    But thanks for reminding me of Antione Walker.

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    So first no one plays 40 minutes in the NBA, then no PF's play 40 minutes, and now it's only guys who we can get that don't play 40 minutes in the NBA.

    Gotcha.

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    So first no one plays 40 minutes in the NBA, then no PF's play 40 minutes, and now it's only guys who we can get that don't play 40 minutes in the NBA.

    Gotcha.
    Well its about time..

    In retrospect I was wrong but no one is acting like David West or anyother pf is going to play 40 minutes a game. THe whole musical chairs/tag team pf just doesn't build chemistry IMO. I would like our starting five to stay our starting five through out the season.
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    Of the guys we can get.......... NO ONE IS PLAYING 40 MINUTES. THATS WHY ITS DUMB.

    But thanks for reminding me of Antione Walker.
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    As I said in the other thread, Carl Landry will be a Pacer, because they want to split minutes with Tyler. Its unfortunate when we could be landing Nene.
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