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    Paul to Clippers is apparently almost done, though the NBA still has to sign off. EJ not involved!

    By Broderick Turner
    December 11, 2011, 11:10 p.m.

    http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...,2925892.story


    The Clippers and the New Orleans Hornets were working vigorously Sunday night to consummate a blockbuster deal that would send All-Star point guard Chris Paul to Los Angeles to play for the Lakers' cross-town rivals, said two people with knowledge of the situation who were not authorized to speak on the matter.

    The deal hasn't been completed, but both sides were in the closing stages of the negotiations.

    The Clippers would send the Hornets center Chris Kaman, backup second-year guard Eric Bledsoe, second-year forward Al-Farouq Aminu and the No. 1 draft pick they got from the Minnesota Timberwolves that is unprotected in the 2012 draft, considered to be one of the best in recent years.

    Clippers owner Donald Sterling and the NBA have to sign off on the deal.

    A package from the Lakers for Paul was turned down by the league.

    The NBA will probably review the Clippers deal Monday.

    What may actually help the Clippers get the deal done are the young players involved and a potential top-flight draft pick.

    When the Clippers and Hornets talked about a deal involving Paul last week, New Orleans had expressed interest in Eric Gordon. However, the Clippers didn't want to part with the 6-foot-3 guard who turns 23 on Christmas Day, because they consider him one of the NBA's top-five shooting guards.

    He is not part of the deal that is currently being discussed.

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    still, that is a very good deal for the hornets, because they get minny's pick in next year's stacked draft. aminu and bledsoe both have the potential to be solid starters, kaman can fill in at C for a couple of years, and then they have a probable top 3 pick.

    it's a much, much better deal than the LA-HOU 3-way-trade.

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    Damn.

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    It would be so awesome to see the Clippers beat the Lakers in the playoffs. Especially after all the anger over Chris Paul.

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    wow backcourt of chris paul and eric gordon is pretty nice good for the clippers make the lakers feel like the "other team" for a while.

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    But the point is,
    if Chris Paul will sign a extension or not.
    If not, then this is just an one year rental for Clippers.

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    Not really. Nobody is in position to steal him from them next summer. The Clippers are already the team with the most cap room next year, aside from maybe Denver.

    Since they didn't give up Gordon, it's still worth it.
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    That's like my NBA2k team.

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    Stuckey is apparently looking for a $10m per year contract, benchmarking himself against teammate Ben Gordon, who's making $11.6m this season.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2011121...-Pistons-apart

    Sticking points keep Rodney Stuckey and Pistons apart
    1:45 AM, Dec. 12, 2011

    By Vince Ellis

    Here's a multiple-choice question.

    Of the following players, who should make the most money?

    Player A: 15.5 points, 5.2 assists, 3.1 rebounds, 31.2 minutes per game.

    Player B: 11.2 points, 2.1 assists, 44% field-goal shooting, 26 minutes.

    Player C: 11.1 points, 3.9 rebounds, 44.2% field-goal shooting, 21.9 minutes.

    Player D: 12.8 points, 3.5 rebounds, 1.8 assists, 24.3 minutes.

    Even those who could not care less that the NBA season is on course to start Christmas Day probably would choose Player A.

    That player is Piston Rodney Stuckey, a restricted free-agent guard.

    Player B is Pistons shooting guard Ben Gordon, who is on the books for $11.6 million (prorated to about $9.3 million for the 66-game regular season). Player C is Pistons forward Charlie Villanueva, who is down for $7.5 million. Player D is shooting guard Marcus Thornton, who signed a four-year, $33-million deal with the Kings this past week.

    Make no mistake: Stuckey and Leon Rose, his agent, are well aware of those numbers and believe a case can be made that Stuckey is deserving of a contract that pays him $10 million per season.

    That means Stuckey's negotiations with the Pistons could drag.
    I don't see any of the remaining cap space teams offering Stuckey a $10m per deal, so I could see him ending up just taking the one year qualifying offer and trying again next year as a UFA.

    I'd peg his value at around $7-8m per but I think the Pistons will match that easily.

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    10Mil a year Rodney? Do we get to smoke what your smoking too?

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    oh darn.

    I don't care if he shows up at camp or not. He's not getting $10 million. And I know he's better than Thornton.

    His crappy attitude has made this bed for himself. No team in the NBA will even touch him for more than Dumars is offering.

    Ben Gordon got treated more unfairly than anyone since he got here, and he's been the consummate pro. If Stuckey had conducted himself like that, maybe he would be in a better position to negotiate.
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    Looks like Paul will be a Clipper for the next 2 years

    Ric Bucher: Clarification: noted LAC would need CP3 long-term to include Minn 1st. Long term is opting in for the 12-13 season. which i'm told he will. Twitter

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    Wow.

    Clippers are legit contenders for the Western Conference crown.

    Are the Clippers really about to become the biggest show in Los Angeles? Unreal. I bet Simmons is glad he has those Clippers tickets now lol. He loves CP3.

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    I don't think that NO is getting as good of a deal as they were before in the LA/Houston deal, but I like that Paul won't be going to the Lakers. I feel like the Clippers have suffered wayyyy long enough. They deserve a chance to be relevant.

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    Man, I knew the Clippers were bad, but since they moved to LA in 1985 they have only had 3 seasons at or above .500. Made the playoffs 4 times, and made it out of the first round once. Their best season ever was in 2005 when they won 47 games. Clipper Darrell deserves some respect for his undying loyalty.

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    That 05-06 Clippers team was very good. Brand had by far his best season ever (24/10 in 79 games) and Cassell was phenomenal despite being pretty old at that point (17/6 in 78 games). They were inches away from the WCF's as they took Phoenix to a decisive 7th game in the Western Semis. I remember pulling for them to get to the WCF's.

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    As much as I loathe big market teams being able to stockpile superstars, I can't feel bad about the Clips putting together this Big Three. For one, because they've been stuck in purgatory forever, and for another, because I can't stand the Lakers, and it would be nice to see them humbled for a while.

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    Minny signing Barea to a four year deal.

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    Source: Timberwolves finalizing four-year deal with J.J. Barea. Check the Hang Time Blog.
    I thought this was the year of Ricky Rubio? Wolves will have 3 PGs - Rubio, Ridnour, Barea. Though I guess Barea isn't a true PG.

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    No doubt the Clippers have a brighter future than the Lakers if this goes through.


    I'm still just dumbfounded by that Odom trade. That has to be one of the worst trades in recent years. Who just gives up the 6th man of the year (who was a key part of 3 Finals runs) to the team that swept them out of the playoffs for absolutely NOTHING in return?

    I don't care how ticked off Odom was or that he demanded a trade. He would have gotten over it. What was he gonna do, sit at home and not play? He would have manned up eventually and even if he didn't, paying him to not play is better than just handing him over to a rival team. At least trade him for an actual person.
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    No doubt the Clippers have a brighter future than the Lakers if this goes through.


    I'm still just dumbfounded by that Odom trade. That has to be one of the worst trades in recent years. Who just gives up the 6th man of the year (who was a key part of 3 Finals runs) to the team that swept them out of the playoffs for absolutely NOTHING in return?

    I don't care how ticked off Odom was or that he demanded a trade. He would have gotten over it. What was he gonna do, sit at home and not play? He would have manned up eventually and even if he didn't, paying him to not play is better than just handing him over to a rival team. At least trade him for an actual person.
    Yea, foreal..

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    To be fair, the Lakers get a 1st from Dallas.

    That they can send to them any time in the next six years.

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    Someone needs fired over this one ..
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    To be fair, the Lakers get a 1st from Dallas.

    That they can send to them any time in the next six years.


    Yeah, that does a lot to maximize their last years with Kobe.

    I thought the Lakers had to give up a first too?

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    Yeah, that does a lot to maximize their last years with Kobe.

    I thought the Lakers had to give up a first too?
    They gave up a second.
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    Minny signing Barea to a four year deal.
    And now Marc Stein reports that it's for 4 years/$19m. Yowzers.

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