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    Wells is currently on 1070 and notes a few things:

    -- Thinks Pacers will likely make a move via trade instead of free agency. Said that they will sign some free agents, but that the Pacers are more likely to make a deal via trade due to cap space.
    -- Doesn't think the Pacers will grab a guy like Nene or West. West has knee issues and is getting older (31). Nene may break the bank on a contract that the Pacers don't want to pay
    -- Thinks the Pacers will make a hard push towards Millsap and that he could grow with the rest of the guys (PG, DC, Granger, Tyler, Roy, GH, etc.)
    -- Rush will likely be dealt and included in a package for a deal, possibly for Millsap.
    -- Said that DC could be dealt in a deal for Millsap and that the Pacers would dangle a 1st rd and maybe 2nd rd pick too in a deal since they don't have a backup behind Devin Harris (Earl Watson last year). Said that Dahntay and Raja Bell are one in the same as far as playing style.
    -- Thinks George Hill will be starting as PG sooner than later
    -- Pacers won't use amnesty on Posey and that he will take the "Robert Horry" role and provide support and guidance on the bench. He has concerns over Posey and his weight. Said his role ended when JOB got fired.
    -- Thinks the Pacers are looking at the 5 seed for the playoffs

    Pretty good insight!

    What about a deal of:

    Rush, DC and #1 pick for Millsap? Utah gets a pick and a good asset in DC as they stockpile for the future with DC, Burk, Hayward, Favors, Enes, etc.

    New Pacers lineup:

    Hill, Price, rookie/fa
    George, Jones, Lance
    Granger, Posey
    Millsap, Tyler
    Roy, Josh

    We would still have money to go out and grab some depth in the front-court.
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    I really do not understand the hesitation to pay Nene close to a max contract. Its 4 years. Very do able.
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    Not sure where to put this.

    Brian T. Smith: #UtahJazz's Paul Millsap has improved overall ballhandling and ability to drive to the basket with his right hand. Much of Millsap's best .. about 18 minutes ago

    Brian T. Smith: ... work last season came via his left hand. Wants to be comfortable using both with the ball in his hands. about 18 minutes ago


    Brian T. Smith: Did Millsap specifically work on moving toward small forward? No. Would he be much more comfortable alternating between 4 and 3? Yes. about 16 minutes ago

    Brian T. Smith: In best shape of his career, Millsap is ready for whatever happens. Will leave position decisions up to Tyrone Corbin. Just wants to play. about 12 minutes ago

    Brian T. Smith: Balance for Millsap during lockout was stretching his all-around game out but not leaving behind his ability to play off low block. about 9 minutes ago

    Brian T. Smith: Worked so hard he actually had to be shut down at one point. about 8 minutes ago

    Brian T. Smith: Millsap said initial plans are to work out Friday at Jazz PF, but he plans to continue personal training until Dec. 9. 3 minutes ago

    Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz1fDWFeLhS

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    I really do not understand the hesitation to pay Nene close to a max contract. Its 4 years. Very do able.
    Simple: He's not worth the max.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    I applaud the Pacers FO for being smart and not overspending to please public opinion.

    I dont think we should have to include a #1 pick to get Milsap (espeically not next year which is supposed to be an epic draft

    I hope we can snag a amnesty candidate on the cheap
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    Don't throw in a first rounder for Millsap. We would be taking salary off their hands on top of losing two good young players. Millsap is a bit too much of a tweener for my liking. I love his game though, I just worry about his fit with Hans and Granger.
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    If it's true, I'm relieved to hear that we're not going after West or Nene, given what they're commanding.

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    What if we are getting ready to trade Granger for Rondo ... and project Millsap as our new SF??

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    What if we are getting ready to trade Granger for Rondo ... and project Millsap as our new SF??
    Then our starting lineup of Rondo, PG, Millsap, Tyler, and Roy would be the worst 3P shooting team in the league. O'Brien gently weeps.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    If we make a trade I hope it's for someone better then Milsap.
    It's a fair trade proposal but it just doesn't help the team enough to pull the trigger.
    There are better big me to pursue via a trade if we're going that route.
    I'd rather take a shot at Nene or see if Brand is waived. Brand would give us just as much as Milsap at a bargain price without giving anything up. Utlimatley I'd like to see us pursue a better pg next year and keep DC as a backup.

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    Not a big fan of moving DC AND a 1st for Millsap.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    In case anyone is curious, according to Shamsports, Milsap has two years left on his deal at

    8.1
    8.6

    Thats really reasonable for what he does, imo. Beats the hell out of 18.5 mill average for Nene at the max for 4 years.

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    I do not think this means we are not going after West or NeNe at all, I bet we put in some sort of offer for NeNe. I will say that no one knows what we will do including Mike Wells, this is just his opinion.
    Why so SERIOUS

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    i wanna see George Hill at starting pg than DC. Better defense, bigger, more aggressive

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    I do not think this means we are not going after West or NeNe at all, I bet we put in some sort of offer for NeNe. I will say that no one knows what we will do including Mike Wells, this is just his opinion.
    Also think Wells, Crawford comment is more opinion than fact as well.
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    Then our starting lineup of Rondo, PG, Millsap, Tyler, and Roy would be the worst 3P shooting team in the league. O'Brien gently weeps.
    With Roy being the best 3 shooter among them (as Obrien thinks to himself, "Well, at least I did something right. Good job Roy!").
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    If we make a trade I hope it's for someone better then Milsap.
    It's a fair trade proposal but it just doesn't help the team enough to pull the trigger.
    There are better big me to pursue via a trade if we're going that route.
    I'd rather take a shot at Nene or see if Brand is waived. Brand would give us just as much as Milsap at a bargain price without giving anything up. Utlimatley I'd like to see us pursue a better pg next year and keep DC as a backup.
    Brand? He certainly brings more to the table in the Years department. Milsap is more versatile than Brand at this point.

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    Millsap is not a 3. He played there some by necessity but that is absolutely not his position and nothing we would want any part of on the Pacers.

    Millsap, Rondo, Paul George is so sick of a core I may do a cartwheel.

    Which means there is no chance on either front.
    I don't want to sound condescending, which means to talk down to you by the way

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    Relying on Hill as the full-time starting PG would be a huge mistake.

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    As a Pacers fan, (who has seen close to every game Millsap has played in the NBA) I think Millsap is the perfect fit for this team.

    As a Jazz fan, I don't think DC, BRush, and a #1 are enough. The Jazz don't need DC or BRush unless they're planning on making some other moves. There's too much replication of things the Jazz already have with that trade. It doesn't fill any of Utah's needs.

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    Relying on Hill as the full-time starting PG would be a huge mistake.
    How is that worse than relying on DC as the full-time starting PG?

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    Default Re: Mike Wells on 1070...

    I think we might find that George Hill is a bigger version of DC. Still not a pass first, run the team, traditional Point Guard and his pick and roll defense....well we'll see, but from the limited games I've seen when he's guarding an opposing point guard in a pick n roll, not the best.

    Not trying to pee on this, reserving judgement, but I am very very skeptical he's your answer at starting Point Guard. Now, I do think he is a very important piece here as a combo guard for sure.

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