You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
Again for the people that keep talking about a front loaded contract, before the new CBA, we where possible going to do a sign and trade for either Nene,Gasol,West,Chandler or whoever and sign him for about 13/15mil year for six years right? and everybody here could have been happy and celebrating, isn't the same thing and an even better deal to sign whoever the guy is to 15 or 17mil for 4 years? we are going to pay more per year but at the end of the day the Pacers would have more flexibility in the future.
Last edited by vnzla81; 11-29-2011 at 02:03 PM.
One of the national writers said today on Twitter that Dwight Howard is the Clips #1 target. If that happens, there's no way they can have Dwight, Blake, and EJ.
That would be a pretty big change in philosophy from the past 15+ years of operations for the Clippers. Carrying two max guys at the same time that they signed? I don't see it.
EDIT: I saw the same thing Since. I just don't think Gordon is quite as pie in the sky as some of you do, I think it's pretty darn realisitc. The guy has probably spent as much time in Indy as he has LA this season, which is unheard of.
Last edited by Trader Joe; 11-29-2011 at 02:23 PM.
From the other CBA explained thread the team is limited to one 5 year max not a 4 year max and a 5 year max.• 2011 CBA: Players coming off their rookie scale contracts can extend for four additional seasons, although the team can designate one player who is eligible for five seasons at the maximum salary. A team can have only one designated player on its roster at any time. All other veterans can extend for four total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on their current contract. The extension in an extend-and-trade contract is limited to three total seasons, which includes the seasons remaining on the current contract.
Last edited by Gamble1; 11-29-2011 at 02:17 PM.
Nene averaged 14.5 and 7.6 rebs per game last year. 30 mins, over 75 games. He did shoot an unreal .615 from the field, though. 2.0 Assists, 1.0 blocks, 1.1 steals, 1.8 turnovers.
I mean, I like his game, but on what planet is that a max player?
To compare with Big Roy
12.7 pts, 7.5 rebs, 27.7 mins, 81 games. .461 %, 2.0 assists, 1.8 blocks, 0.4 steals, 2.3 turnovers.
To me, Roy's numbers are right there, except what we all know, he really needs to hit a much higher percentage of shots. Thats is a big one, but still, its not like their numbers aren't kinda close.
Last edited by Speed; 11-29-2011 at 02:20 PM.
Gosh, I hope the market isn't this irrational, this year.
Nene is a 10-12mil/year player, fairly priced. I'll be disappointed in the front office if they entertain anything more than that.
Now is the time for fiscal discipline. All of these newly committed mistakes these 2 weeks create new opportunities for smarter teams in the future.
OKC just recently paid Perk 35 over 4... that's more rational.
I wasn't saying I wanted to offer Nene the max. I'm saying if you want Nene on the Pacers, you'll have to offer that to him. And even then, somebody else will as well.
"I had to take her down like Chris Brown."
I could see Roy putting up Nene numbers this year or next, without the FG %, which again is a big one for a big.
Disclaimer: Nene does pass the eye test more than those numbers indicate, to me. Also, I still think he's a good fit with Roy and Tyler. Nene just isn't a max player, if someone pays him that, congrats to them. He does deserve a really good contract, however, imo.
Last edited by Speed; 11-29-2011 at 02:37 PM. Reason: Math is hard.
I say let someone else have him if that's the price. He's just flat out not worth that much. He's a cleanup guy on the boards, nothing more. His skill set isn't really that rare or difficult to learn.
My question is, how much a max deal is going to be? and isn't a max deal a better deal now that the contracts are shorter? in Nene's case we could sign him for four years(in his prime) instead of 5 or 6 years.
edit: His contract this year would be also smaller because of the 66 games schedule.
Last edited by vnzla81; 11-29-2011 at 02:40 PM.
30-34 is not always the prime for a basketball player. Especially a big man who has been in the league for 9 years already.
You can't get champagne from a garden hose.
Looks pretty tempting to me.
Here we come lottery?
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Let's say that we only got him for 14mil for 5 years = 70mil
or 14 for 6= 84mil, isn't that the same thing as giving him a max for 4 years? (74mil in 4) yes you are paying more but the lenght of the contract won't kill you and he won't be able to pull a JO.
Last edited by vnzla81; 11-29-2011 at 02:58 PM.