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    Here is the one from CBS sports

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    When free agency starts there's a relatively lackluster class to choose from. Nevertheless, here are the top 40 players available in unrestricted or restricted free agency now that they tentatively have this sorted out.

    Rankings are based on overall value, factoring in production, age, potential, star power, interest and market value. For the full list of free agents this offseason, check out our tracker.

    1. Nene, C: You're looking at a cornerstone piece in Nene, which means someone's got to pay cornerstone money. He's just now hitting his prime at 29 years old and as the second half of last season proved, he's top guy material. The Nuggets are definitely looking to put pretty much all of their eggs in Nene's basket, but there could be another big spender that tries to swoop in and grab him. He's a prize and someone that can be a building piece for the next four or five years.

    2. Marc Gasol, C: The perfect combination of factors lead Gasol to our No. 2 spot. Talent, capitalizing on a stellar playoff run, centers being at such a premium in the league and Gasol's age of 26. There are bigger names on this list, but no one is as valuable as Gasol. His restricted free agency status only drives his value farther, as a front-loaded contract is the only thing that might push the Grizzlies off matching an offer.

    3. David West, F: Were West not coming off of a significant injury at 31 years old, he'd likely be in the top spot on this list. A former All-Star with excellent mid-range skills and a heap of attitude, West opted out and enter free agency, presumably to attempt to get a front-loaded contract before any CBA restrictions drive down his long-term value. He'll have bidders if the Hornets don't quickly recapture him once free agency begins.

    4. Tyson Chandler, C: Hitting free agency just after being the starting center and a key factor for a championship team -- talk about great timing. Chandler is a lock to return to Dallas as there's no way Cuban lets the guy who validated all that work escape. But Chandler's going to have whatever offer he wants. Which is stunning for a guy who can't contribute much offensively outside of the lob. But that's the difference a ring makes.

    5. Jason Richardson, SG: Richardson's age is kind of a concern here; he'll be 31 next season. But he's the best overall offensive weapon and has a few more years of contribution left in him and is the kind of veteran that teams look for. Orlando may be looking to make room for a bigger trade, so Richardson could fetch offers on the market. But if teams have learned anything from the Joe Johnson valuation, they'll keep it within reason.

    6. Thaddeus Young, PF: It's really hard to imagine Philadelphia letting one of its very best young options get away, but Young has become one of the most lethal bench weapons in the game. He can realistically play three positions and is one of the game's most versatile players. He became a legit Sixth Man of the Year candidate and as he matures -- he's still just 23 -- he could become one of the 76ers prized future pieces, making him a valuable asset.

    7. J.R. Smith, SG: Unstable? Probably. Unreliable? Possibly injured? He may be all of these things. But Smith's a scorer whose not on the downslide of his career. A sixth-man scorer with guts. Think Ben Gordon a few years ago with a worse attitude.

    8. Glen Davis, PF: "Big Baby" has a championship ring and has shown he can contribute to a winner. The only thing keeping him lower on this list is a disappointing playoff run after a tremendous season; 14 points and 7 rebounds per 36 with great defense and the ability to take charges will get him the rest of the way.

    9. DeAndre Jordan, C: In a normal year, Jordan's the top of the B rankings. This year, he's the seventh-best available player considering value. Jordan had a tremendous year for the Clippers and is nearly a lock to be re-signed by the Clippers. Then again, it's the Clippers. Jordan averaged 10 points, 10 rebounds and 2.5 blocks per 36 last season but more importantly started to show understanding of defensive rotations, which makes it much tougher to turn away from him.

    10. Grant Hill, SF: Anyone else think Hill's career is going in reverse? If Hill doesn't want to return to Phoenix, there will be contenders left and right vying for his services.

    11. Tayshaun Prince, SF: Part of the worst locker-room environment in the league last year, Prince should have a higher value, even at 31. He's still capable of excellent defense and averaged 14 points on 47-percent shooting last season. Seeing him in another jersey would be bizarre, but after last season's hijinx, it's a coin flip.

    12. Wilson Chandler, SF: Chandler's a young and versatile player. Denver is unlikely to re-sign him considering their need to get Nene back in house and they have Galinari and drafted Jordan Hamilton. Chandler has been rumored to be interested in a return to the Knicks, if they've got the scratch to pay him.

    13. Jeff Green, SF/PF: This one is mostly on account of his market value. Green is not a good rebounder. He can't really take over offensively, and he's not a great defender. But Danny Ainge thinks he's the bee's knees and will overpay to keep him, plus he could theoretically develop any of the aforementioned skills. This one caused some debate among our crew in developing these rankings.

    14. Jamal Crawford, SG: Crawford made it public knowledge that he wanted a big extension last year, but the Hawks declined to oblige him. Crawford is 31, and his numbers took a dive last season (42 percent FG percentage, 14 points per game down from 18). But he's likely to still pull offers based on star power. The question will be whether it comes close to matching what Crawford thinks he's worth. His playoff heroics should help matters on that front.

    15. J.J. Barea, SG: Barea's stock could not be higher coming off the Mavs' championship win. He answered every question about himself and showed the ability to compete at the highest level. He won't dictate a huge asking price due to his diminutive size, but for a role player, he'll collect a tremendous amount of interest, though like Chandler, it's certain Cuban will re-sign him.

    16. Caron Butler, SF: So many Mavericks, such a poor free-agency class to drive up their value. Butler's over 30, coming back from injury, and has been on the slide for quite a while. Still, veteran defender who can shoot (or at least can have a few hot shooting nights) is going to get offers. Cuban will likely re-sign Butler in a wave of goodwill on his championship high.

    17. Aaron Brooks, PG: The best point guard in the free agent class. How depressing is that? Brooks is a high-usage, low-assist-rate point guard who's undersized. And yet because of his work in Houston before getting shuffled off to make room for Kyle Lowry, Brooks is rumored to be on the radar for Sacramento among others, but as a restricted free agent, the offer will have to be significant for Phoenix not to match.

    18. Marcus Thornton, SG: Guys who can drop 40 in a night are rare in this league. "Buckets" has that ability coming off his rookie contract. Yes, his shot selection needs work, and he's undersized for a two-guard, but he's scrappy, hustles and can hit big shots. Thornton should be high on every team's list if the Kings elect to let him slide after adding Salmons and Jimmer.

    19. Arron Afflalo, SG: A 26-year-old guard with great athleticism who shot 50 percent from the field last season coming off his rookie contract? Afflalo could be a steal if the Nuggets decide not to match for some reason. Odds are that he's headed back to Denver, though.

    20. Samuel Dalembert, C: Dalembert played surprisingly well last season for Sacramento. But he's an aging center with injury questions who has never contributed much offensively. So why is he top-20? Seriously. NBA centers. Not good right now.

    21. Carl Landry, PF: A below-average rebounder who learned to work well with Chris Paul (who doesn't) late last season. Landry didn't gather a huge contract last time he was in free agency and will probably not draw much this time. Still, he's a reliable power forward who's great defensively even if his defensive rebounding is a significant letdown.

    22. Rodney Stuckey, PG/SG: A combo guard's combo guard, Stuckey may have outstayed his welcome in Detroit, even in restricted free agency. Teams looking for quality guard play could definitely look to Stuckey who may have some improvement left in him at 25.

    23. Kris Humpries, PF: The Incredible Hump is looking to cash in after averaging a double-double, finding himself in the Most Improved Player discussion and locking down a Kardashian last season. The Nets have expressed interest in David West but will be very motivated to retain Humphries if that chase doesn’t work out.

    24. Shane Battier, SF: After taking part in a miracle run past the San Antonio Spurs, it would be heartbreaking to watch Battier and the Memphis Grizzlies part ways. At the same time, Battier has reached the “latch on with a contender as a very valuable role player” stage of his career. Would be a huge get for a team looking for an experienced, gritty wing defender.

    25. Mario Chalmers, PG: Chalmers got buried behind Mike Bibby for no apparent reason by Heat coach Erik Spoelstra but, nevertheless, made a solid name for himself by being the most capable and consistent member of the Big 3 support staff. He enters free agency as a young talent with upside if given more minutes, but the Heat, without another point-guard option, will likely do what it takes to keep him.

    26. Nick Young, SG: When given the opportunity after Gilbert Arenas was dealt, Young became quite the scorer, finishing up at better than 17 points per game. He was a bit trigger happy however and one has to wonder how he'd fit in a more traditional offense. He's not a go-to scorer but will make a nice bench option or even second or third starting scorer for someone. But that's the thing: He has to realize that.

    27. Luc Mbah a Moute, SF: It shouldn’t cost an arm and a leg for the Bucks to retain him. Even though the Stephen Jackson trade muddles up the available minutes on Milwaukee’s wings, a low-cost, quality defender is worth keeping around.

    28. Jeff Foster, C: Life isn’t very complicated for Foster. He’s a lunch-pail worker who does the dirty work and not much else. He’s getting up there in years but always seems to find a niche. Indiana’s frontcourt is fairly shallow aside from Roy Hibbert, so if the Pacers strike out in their attempts to get bigger fish in free agency, Foster could be a good fallback option.

    29. Jonas Jerebko, SF: A tough-minded wing who has been lost because of injury and the coach-killing mess left by his higher-profile teammates. President Joe Dumars is preaching a fresh start after Thursday’s draft, and it makes sense that Jerebko, a fresh-faced worker, would be a part of that.

    30. Andrei Kirilenko, SF: The Utah Jazz are finally freed from one of the ugliest contracts in recent memory. Where will AK land and at what price? Very difficult to say. He’s a quirky guy who brings loads of versatility and should have some miles left. If a contender throws its mid-level at him, that could get real interesting.

    31. Marco Belinelli, SG: The Hornets have concerns than Belinelli. Namely, David West. Belinelli's future is uncertain, although his shooting is a clear role player asset that should draw interest, if not big dollars.

    32. Kwame Brown, C: The only other big man Charlotte has on its roster is DeSagana Diop, so if Brown leaves in free agency, there will be a gaping hole in the middle. That will be a sure sign that the Bobcats are truly committed to a full-scale rebuild. Once a punchline, Brown has emerged as a serviceable defender.

    33. Greg Oden, C: One less knee surgery and Oden's probably a top 15 free agent on this list. Two less and he'd be top five. But then, that's another universe, and the reality is that Oden is too much of an injury risk to devote money to. For all the promise born in his frame, there's a desperately terrible injury to go with it. At some point there's only so much damage you can do before you're relegated to lemon status until you prove you can stay on the floor.

    34. Marquis Daniels, G/F: Daniels wasn't a terrific player but a pretty good one. But he's coming back from a gruesome injury, and that's going to raise red flags.

    35. DeShawn Stevenson, G/F: The only Maverick free agent not in the top 20. Stevenson did a fantastic job in the Finals, but the "Ariza effect" is something to be wary of. A strong playoff run does not make up for an overall career of questionable production. Still, Stevenson could be a value pick up for another team... or they could overspend dramatically, blinded by the shine of his championship ring.

    36. Earl Clark, F: This one caused some consternation within the committee for where to put Clark. Athletic, low production, warned off in the draft, cast off by Phoenix, produced marginally for Orlando with some intriguing potential. But Clark is young, healthy and can be had for cheap. This is a value slot.

    37. Tracy McGrady, F: McGrady actually wasn't bad last year for the Pistons. I mean, the Pistons were bad last year for the Pistons, but still. McGrady isn't going to be a difference-maker, but he can contribute some points, assists and rebounds every now and then to finish out his career. Provided he stays healthy. You can file that under "Famous last words."

    38. Josh McRoberts, PF: McBob was surprisingly productive for the Pacers last season, and in a league where big men are overvalued, he'll find a spot.

    39. Kenyon Martin, PF: There are dozens of reasons not to sign Martin. But if you need someone with experience to bring a metric ton of attitude to your team, Martin's as good a pickup as any. Remember when this guy was part of a Finals squad?

    40. Yi Jianlian, PF: An unrealized offensive talent, Yi still seems like he should be every bit the player of an Andrea Bargnani. Yi's not a strong defender or rebounder, but at seven feet with touch to the 3-point line and just 23 years old, he's going to be worth a contract to see if he can sniff a little of that lottery potential.


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    Yeah Yi could be interesting also, especially coming off the bench being combined with a true center suck as Pryzbilla. I did not know that he was still only 23 that could turn out to be a very good pick up, not too worried about his defense, he still seems to be a agile 7fter and seems to be able to get up the court well. I think his style would work with some of our up paced lineups as well.
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    Yeah Yi could be interesting also, especially coming off the bench being combined with a true center suck as Pryzbilla. I did not know that he was still only 23 that could turn out to be a very good pick up, not too worried about his defense, he still seems to be a agile 7fter and seems to be able to get up the court well. I think his style would work with some of our up paced lineups as well.


    He is honestly the polar opposite of what we need. Vogel wants to play smash mouth basketball and Yi is not a good player and defiantly not a smash mouth player he is really really soft and doesn't play a lick of defense.

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    He is honestly the polar opposite of what we need. Vogel wants to play smash mouth basketball and Yi is not a good player and defiantly not a smash mouth player he is really really soft and doesn't play a lick of defense.
    Did not know Vogel was going for smash mouth players, just thinking that when our 2nd team comes in if we have a true center, we would still have a big that could stretch the D and run the court.
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    anyway to change the title to 2011?
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    Yeah Yi could be interesting also, especially coming off the bench being combined with a true center suck as Pryzbilla. I did not know that he was still only 23 that could turn out to be a very good pick up, not too worried about his defense, he still seems to be a agile 7fter and seems to be able to get up the court well. I think his style would work with some of our up paced lineups as well.
    Yi is still only 23 in the same way Danny Almonte was only 12 in the LLWS.
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    Yi is still only 23 in the same way Danny Almonte was only 12 in the LLWS.
    What is his estimated age range?
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    What is his estimated age range?
    He's assumed to be 27.

    His "official" age is 24. "Official" birthdate is 10-27-1987.
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    this is the 11 class not 2012

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    this is the 11 class not 2012
    Sorry about that, typed it wrong.
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    It's 2011....

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    I don't think I realized this...

    "Expect the league to allow teams to begin negotiating with free agents somewhere between Dec. 1-4. David Stern has said publicly that the goal is to allow teams to begin signing free agents on Dec. 9, which is also the target for the beginning of training camps. With games scheduled to start on Dec. 25, that means teams will be doing most of their work in the first week of free agency."

    Thats, THIS WEEK!!!

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    I don't think I realized this...

    "Expect the league to allow teams to begin negotiating with free agents somewhere between Dec. 1-4. David Stern has said publicly that the goal is to allow teams to begin signing free agents on Dec. 9, which is also the target for the beginning of training camps. With games scheduled to start on Dec. 25, that means teams will be doing most of their work in the first week of free agency."

    Thats, THIS WEEK!!!
    It never made any sense to kick off free agency and training camp at the same time. There are teams with only 5 or 6 guys currently under contract.

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    It is evident that we need a center and/or power forward, both veterans, who can support the play of Hansbrough and Hibbert. Unfortunately, the top two players I can see in this position, Nene and Tyson Chandler, are likely to re-sign with their respective teams, or not be interested in playing in Indiana. In addition to them, I think DeAndre Jordan or Oden would flourish on the team, but Jordan won't want to leave his best buddy, Blake Griffin, and I highly doubt anyone in the Pacers Front Office (or anyone on this board) would be willing to risk any money on Oden. Despite these four players all being legitimate centers, having any of them play alongside Hibbert at the 4 would give us one helluva Twin Tower team.

    Regardless of the power forward and center positions, we should make strides in relieving the traffic jam at the wing (trade/ditch Rush, Price, Posey, Jones, do NOT re-sign Dunleavy), and bring in someone proficient like Jamal Crawford. His veteranship would help young guys like the Georges get better, and take pressure off them in clutch situations. Anyone who knows Crawford's résumé knows he can hit threes like no one's business, can easily score in the paint and on fast breaks, and hits clutch shots at the most opportune times. If you think we don't need improvement in these areas, you should see how many times we got beat out at the buzzer last year, and before that. He doesn't mind coming off the bench, but he could be a very good scorer next to Granger, and the only addition we need to put this team forward two or three steps.

    I don't know if or how we'd be able to do it, but walking away with Crawford and Chandler (or Jordan) would be rather incredible. With Crawford leading the way, we should be able to reel in Eric Gordon after this year, and can send Crawford packing as the FO sees fit.

    Also, I can't believe I'm talking about Pacers basketball again. Or that (tentatively) by next week, teams will begin talking and making moves. 66 games is better than 0.
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    It is evident that we need a center and/or power forward, both veterans, who can support the play of Hansbrough and Hibbert. Unfortunately, the top two players I can see in this position, Nene and Tyson Chandler, are likely to re-sign with their respective teams, or not be interested in playing in Indiana. In addition to them, I think DeAndre Jordan or Oden would flourish on the team, but Jordan won't want to leave his best buddy, Blake Griffin, and I highly doubt anyone in the Pacers Front Office (or anyone on this board) would be willing to risk any money on Oden. Despite these four players all being legitimate centers, having any of them play alongside Hibbert at the 4 would give us one helluva Twin Tower team.

    Regardless of the power forward and center positions, we should make strides in relieving the traffic jam at the wing (trade/ditch Rush, Price, Posey, Jones, do NOT re-sign Dunleavy), and bring in someone proficient like Jamal Crawford. His veteranship would help young guys like the Georges get better, and take pressure off them in clutch situations. Anyone who knows Crawford's résumé knows he can hit threes like no one's business, can easily score in the paint and on fast breaks, and hits clutch shots at the most opportune times. If you think we don't need improvement in these areas, you should see how many times we got beat out at the buzzer last year, and before that. He doesn't mind coming off the bench, but he could be a very good scorer next to Granger, and the only addition we need to put this team forward two or three steps.

    I don't know if or how we'd be able to do it, but walking away with Crawford and Chandler (or Jordan) would be rather incredible. With Crawford leading the way, we should be able to reel in Eric Gordon after this year, and can send Crawford packing as the FO sees fit.

    Also, I can't believe I'm talking about Pacers basketball again. Or that (tentatively) by next week, teams will begin talking and making moves. 66 games is better than 0.
    I actually think there is a chance that NeNe leaves, his team should be horrible this year, it seems that most of them have decided to go to China with no opt-out clause. There are more attractive places for him to go but I could see the Pacers in there.

    Jordan would be the choice for me, adding another young guy with potential will be a good weapon. Even with this upcoming draft supposedly heavy at the PF position we can still grab Jordan and then trade him in the future due to his age and upside. He could also play center next to Hans if needed, I think he would be the best fit for this team considering all the factors, price, age, potential, playing style. But yeah he pretty much has the C spot locked up in LA and why would you want to leave LA for indy, I have no idea.

    Not really a Tyson fan, I am more interested in C/PF hybrid type guys and I think he is all C.

    Crawford yeah, but we already have a lot of shots taken up with the group that we have right now, I am not sure how efficient he would be for the cost that it would take to get him.
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    I just hope that we get a big space eating PF. Our team needs to get BIG and physical. There is nothing worse for an opposing team's self confidence than stepping out on the court and realizing that the other team is way bigger at every position. It always gives you that sinking feeling in your stomach.

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    I just hope that we get a big space eating PF. Our team needs to get BIG and physical. There is nothing worse for an opposing team's self confidence than stepping out on the court and realizing that the other team is way bigger at every position. It always gives you that sinking feeling in your stomach.
    With that said, I don't think there are many other 6'8" starting shooting guards. With THAT said, I don't think our best power forward option should only be an inch taller than both our starting SG and SF.
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    With that said, I don't think there are many other 6'8" starting shooting guards. With THAT said, I don't think our best power forward option should only be an inch taller than both our starting SG and SF.
    The Lakers won 5 championships with a PF smaller than their point guard.

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    The Lakers won 5 championships with a PF smaller than their point guard.
    Forgive my ignorance, but which Lakers, what years, and who? If you're talking about Magic Johnson as the point guard, that's a special case; there aren't many functional 6'8" point guards these days, not to mention any that play for the Pacers.

    I like to think that, with Hansbrough at 6'9", we don't need any more small power forwards. Players like Carl Landry shouldn't come near the team, intense or not. We need some height, strength, and some form of athleticism at our four position, besides McRoberts (whose skill/potential is still indefinite and undetermined).
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    I'd be offering a Max Contract to Marc Gasol and hoping Memphis won't match, and if they do match, they'll have to unload half their team in lopsided trades.
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    I'd be offering a Max Contract to Marc Gasol and hoping Memphis won't match, and if they do match, they'll have to unload half their team in lopsided trades.
    Has Marc Gasol ever averaged a double double? You guys are just crazy with this Gasol talk. No way is he worth that type of money.

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    Has Marc Gasol ever averaged a double double? You guys are just crazy with this Gasol talk. No way is he worth that type of money.
    He very well could have the past couple seasons if he wasn't playing alongside Zach Randolph.

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    He very well could have the past couple seasons if he wasn't playing alongside Zach Randolph.
    I wonder why that excuse doesn't need to be made for Zach Randolph?

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    I wonder why that excuse doesn't need to be made for Zach Randolph?
    Because he's upped his impact on the court tremendously since going to Memphis?

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