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    I did not see OSU beating Duke by 20. Good Lord they are scary good. The Big Ten is looking like a dominant conference this year.
    tOSU is scary good. Aaron Craft is the best PG in college basketball. Jared Sullinger is probably the best player in the country. William Buford is a legit NBA wing right now. But the Big Ten is not a dominant conference this season. tOSU is the only Final Four contender in the league.

    Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Purdue, all Final Four threats a year ago, have taken a step back.

    Top to bottom, it's better than the ACC. But, despite Duke's shallacking last night, the ACC has two legit Final Four contenders.
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    I think Wisconsin could make a run at the final four. Jordan Taylor has to start playing a little better though.

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    Aaron Craft is the best PG in college basketball.
    I read this and immediately scoffed. I thought, "There is no way that can be right." Well, with the exception of Kendall Marshall (who is probably better than Craft), I can't think of a single guy that I can definitively say is better.

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    I read this and immediately scoffed. I thought, "There is no way that can be right." Well, with the exception of Kendall Marshall (who is probably better than Craft), I can't think of a single guy that I can definitively say is better.
    Kendall Marshall is probably a better offensive player, though I think it's close.

    There has not been a point guard defender anywhere close to Craft since Rajon Rondo.
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    I honestly don't understand the Marshall love. He's a great open court passer, but that's about the only thing he does at a high level.

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    Sad state of affairs NCAA point guards are at this point. I have another name to toss into the mix: Jordan Taylor.

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    Sad state of affairs NCAA point guards are at this point. I have another name to toss into the mix: Jordan Taylor.
    I love Jordan Taylor.

    But I would take Aaron Craft over him. Jordan Taylor will get the 1st team all Big Ten votes because his numbers will be better, but Craft's a better player in my opinion.
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    I love Jordan Taylor.

    But I would take Aaron Craft over him. Jordan Taylor will get the 1st team all Big Ten votes because his numbers will be better, but Craft's a better player in my opinion.
    What do you think of their pro prospects? Craft and Taylor? Second rounders?

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    What do you think of their pro prospects? Craft and Taylor? Second rounders?
    I think Craft will stay in college at least one and likely two more years. But I would not hesitate to use a mid-first round pick on him. He's got good NBA point size. He's a decent shooter. He's a good passer with solid court vision. His basketball IQ is extremely high. You could say that about a lot of players though. What sets him apart is his extraordinary lateral quickness. He can keep NBA point guards in front of him and that is a skill which should not be taken lightly. He'll be in the upper echelon of point defenders whenever he enters the league. He's hard nosed and a major competitor.

    A legit sized NBA point who is a good passer, sees the floor, is one of, if not the, smartest players on the floor at all times, and is defensively capable of dictating where the offensive player goes with the ball is the ideal player to lead your team.

    Yikes. I think I just described the anti-Collison.

    Projecting Jordan Taylor is tougher in my opinion. He relies so much on scoring and it's hard for me to see a lot of that translating. I think he'll be an average backup in the league. He actually reminds me a lot of AJ Price. I think he's a second rounder.

    I was entirely unimpressed with Kendall Marshall last night. I'm sure it was just a bad game and I'll watch him a few more times as the season goes along but I'd take Craft over him without hesitation at this point.
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    Well, that was easy.

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    I was entirely unimpressed with Kendall Marshall last night. I'm sure it was just a bad game and I'll watch him a few more times as the season goes along but I'd take Craft over him without hesitation at this point.
    Like I said, I don't understand the Marshall love. He's a great fit for that UNC team, and the style they want to play, but he's not a good PG.

    He's slow and unathletic.
    He's a horrible shooter.
    Not a good defender.
    He doesn't run an offense, at all.

    He makes great open court passes and that's about it. No way he makes those 40ft passes in the NBA. He'll be picked off, and dunked on more times than he can count.

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    Like I said, I don't understand the Marshall love. He's a great fit for that UNC team, and the style they want to play, but he's not a good PG.

    He's slow and unathletic.
    He's a horrible shooter.
    Not a good defender.
    He doesn't run an offense, at all.

    He makes great open court passes and that's about it. No way he makes those 40ft passes in the NBA. He'll be picked off, and dunked on more times than he can count.
    Ya he will be a backup in the NBA if that. I was starting to get impressed with him but he just doesnt have the skill for the NBA imo. Really good college floor general but lacks just about everything for the nba.

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    I think Craft will stay in college at least one and likely two more years. But I would not hesitate to use a mid-first round pick on him. He's got good NBA point size. He's a decent shooter. He's a good passer with solid court vision. His basketball IQ is extremely high. You could say that about a lot of players though. What sets him apart is his extraordinary lateral quickness. He can keep NBA point guards in front of him and that is a skill which should not be taken lightly. He'll be in the upper echelon of point defenders whenever he enters the league. He's hard nosed and a major competitor.

    A legit sized NBA point who is a good passer, sees the floor, is one of, if not the, smartest players on the floor at all times, and is defensively capable of dictating where the offensive player goes with the ball is the ideal player to lead your team.

    Yikes. I think I just described the anti-Collison.

    Projecting Jordan Taylor is tougher in my opinion. He relies so much on scoring and it's hard for me to see a lot of that translating. I think he'll be an average backup in the league. He actually reminds me a lot of AJ Price. I think he's a second rounder.

    I was entirely unimpressed with Kendall Marshall last night. I'm sure it was just a bad game and I'll watch him a few more times as the season goes along but I'd take Craft over him without hesitation at this point.
    Jordan Taylor isnt an NBA player IMO(he may play a year or so I just dont see him as an NBA player he should be great in Euro though.

    I think Craft will be a good backup in the NBA
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