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    The NBA lockout may cost the league an entire season. With nothing happen stateside, some players are heading overseas to get their fix and their money. One of those players is J.R. Smith of the Denver Nuggets. As you see around the 23-second mark of the video above, Smith went down with a serious knee injury in China today. A writer at the game tweeted that Smith couldn’t walk and had to be carried to an ambulance by teammates.

    Is there a chance Smith would have blown out his knee in the Nuggets’ season opener? Of course. But what does this mean for Smith’s future in the NBA? There’s no telling what this trip overseas may have cost Smith.
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    Pretty brutal. I could see this scaring some guys from going overseas, especially free agents.

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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    I don't see this scaring Players off. As the writer suggested...this could happen anywhere....a Player could injure himself walking down a flight of stairs in the early morning half asleep...or could hurt himself in some Player Organized Game in the US.

    The only thing that wills scare a Player off from playing overseas is if they have a conversation with Josh Childress or any of the Players that have gone overseas that have had bad experiences ( living conditions, getting their $$$, etc. ).
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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    This could have happened anywhere, of course.

    But I think CooperManning raises an important question: what about free agents? They have the most to lose in case of injury, but they should also stay in shape and play competitive basketball, especially if the whole season is cancelled.

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    I don't see this scaring Players off. As the writer suggested...this could happen anywhere....a Player could injure himself walking down a flight of stairs in the early morning half asleep...or could hurt himself in some Player Organized Game in the US.

    The only thing that wills scare a Player off from playing overseas is if they have a conversation with Josh Childress or any of the Players that have gone overseas that have had bad experiences ( living conditions, getting their $$$, etc. ).
    I agree. Considering there won't be an NBA season this year, I don't think it really much matters. At least they'll be getting paid until they get injured.

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    If I was an NBA player I wouldn't play any place where my teammates had to carry me to an ambulance. I'm finding a league that at least has a wheelchair or stretcher available.
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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    I don't mean to trivialize the fact that JR got injured... but I want to say that I really like the uniforms his team uses. It's a nice departure from nearly every team wearing fire engine red or powder blue in the NBA these days.

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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    Sure, you could get injured anywhere, but you increase the odds when you put yourself in situations like this.

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    Sure, you could get injured anywhere, but you increase the odds when you put yourself in situations like this.
    Situations like what? He was running down an empty lane. That's an injury you get in practice.

    Leg and foot injuries are a part of the game. It doesn't matter if he was playing in America, China or Denmark or Guatemala. There's no causation between this injury and being in China.

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    Situations like what? He was running down an empty lane. That's an injury you get in practice.

    Leg and foot injuries are a part of the game. It doesn't matter if he was playing in America, China or Denmark or Guatemala. There's no causation between this injury and being in China.
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    I don't think he's saying being in China is the reason. I think he's saying why would you put yourself in even more risk, in order to make 50cents on the dollar?

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    I don't think he's saying being in China is the reason. I think he's saying why would you put yourself in even more risk, in order to make 50cents on the dollar?
    The counterpoint I guess is that in order to stay in condition you run the risk of the same injuries while working out WITHOUT any income, so why not make some $$$ along with it?
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    I don't think he's saying being in China is the reason. I think he's saying why would you put yourself in even more risk, in order to make 50cents on the dollar?
    When he's practicing he's doing the same thing. There is no NBA right now. Why would he waste his prime years to make money not making ANY money or playing at the highest level why he still can?

    serious injuries in basketball are typically freak injuries that can happen anywhere.

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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    I used the phrase "more risk" for a reason. Players get hurt when they're playing more often than they get hurt while training.

    You don't need to live in a bubble, but you don't need to put yourself in added risk situations either.

    He's set to lose more now than he's hurt than he was going to make while playing in China. Is the risk worth the reward? In this instance, I think the answer is no.
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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    The question is, did he have insurance?

    This is the part nobody else realizes. In the NBA, if you get hurt you still get paid. If the lockout ends next week and he shows up to training camp unable to play, they don't have to pay him a dime.

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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    I'm pretty sure his agent said that he was going to be fine...

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    I used the phrase "more risk" for a reason. Players get hurt when they're playing more often than they get hurt while training.

    You don't need to live in a bubble, but you don't need to put yourself in added risk situations either.

    He's set to lose more now than he's hurt than he was going to make while playing in China. Is the risk worth the reward? In this instance, I think the answer is no.
    I agree. Practicing and going through drills is one thing. Playing a few charity games here and there is another. Playing regularly in a league, particularly when the style might be unfamiliar probably takes on the most risk. Given the money he could make in the NBA, I would say it was a mistake for sure. It's not the first big mistake that dude's made...

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    Apparently he was faking it.

    The club wanted to void his contract but Stephon Marbury saved the day. Nice to see Marbury as an influential figure.

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    The question is, did he have insurance?

    This is the part nobody else realizes. In the NBA, if you get hurt you still get paid. If the lockout ends next week and he shows up to training camp unable to play, they don't have to pay him a dime.
    He surely had insurance but he's a free-agent, so insurance only covers his Chinese league salary.

    Guys like Deron Williams and Tony Parker have insurance that covers their NBA salaries and then some. But one of the reasons there aren't more of those guys playing right now is because those insurances are so expensive. I know guys like Bogut and Gasol were willing to play for free, but clubs couldn't afford the insurance premiums.

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    Default Re: Maybe players shouldn't risk their careers overseas? (JR Smith)

    ^ so are fake injuries more likely in a game, or training?

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    Ak47 hot hurt in the game I was watching a few days ago. A shame he was playing so well

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