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    I don't really get ginger jokes as jokes. "Hur hur, red hair!!" Er, OK? I like the lighthearted spirit of them and how they subvert past racist/sexist/whatever jokes, but usually I wind up feeling like someone forgot the funny part. It reminds me of a Family Guy episode I saw the other day where they're mocking the HIMYM "bro code" stuff: "Hold on--are these jokes? Do people in other castles think this is funny?"

    Anyway, I think I'm gonna read the business-insider link. Has anyone seen anything else come up regarding the matter?

    edit- Well, hrm. Guess I was hoping for something a little more thorough. A browse of google doesn't seem to reveal much progress in this story. This HuffPo article kind of lays it all out neatly and includes the SportsByBrooks tweets: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1086099.html

    Guess we'll see what happens.
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    No way that happens. I just can't see it.
    I could see it. Penn state hasn't even been in the conference for 20 years and if you were going to try and replace them now would be the time with all the shuffling.

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    If the B1G kicks Penn State out or imposes some other program-dehabilitating penalty, the NCAA should let any Penn State player who wishes to transfer do so without losing any eligibility. The current PSU players should not be punished at all, but given that the NCAA treats student athletes like **** it wouldn't surprise me if they are.

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    I was just told from someone in the IU athletics department, that they've petitioned the Big Ten to remove Ped State from the conference. I have no idea if any other school has done the same or if anything will come of it but I won't be surprised if the conference goes back to eleven for a short time until a replacement is found.
    I could totally see that. And its a joke we're still called the Big 10 even though there's more than 10 teams but that's another story.

    At this point Penn State could be an independent team when all is said and done with all the realignment of the conferences.

    Now would be the time to do it.

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    I could totally see that. And its a joke we're still called the Big 10 even though there's more than 10 teams but that's another story.
    It's a brand name, nothing more, nothing less.

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    I'd be shocked to see Penn State removed from the B1G. Really can't see it happening. What would that accomplish? Would the victims and the families of the victims feel any better about that? It would certainly punish Penn State, but with that, again, you are punishing a lot of innocent people. I can see it being casually discussed, but I would be shocked if it were actually implemented.

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    I think it comes down to considering how long this negative press is going to hang around that university. It's not going to be gone in a week, a month, or even a year. This is going to take a while to sort through.

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    The reason I don't think it will happen is that the conference couldn't just kick them out and effectively contract. They'd have to replace Penn State. If for some reason you thought Notre Dame was finally ready to align with a conference then yeah I could see it happening. But they're not, and it won't.

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    Joe Paterno's name taken off the new Big Ten championship trophy

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    Thank God

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    The SNL "devil" skit was pretty good:

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    Whoa, whoa, false alarm guys. He says he's innocent. Phew! And I thought we had a real scandal on our hands.

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    He admitted he probably shouldn't have showed with those boys though, this guy has really turned over a new leaf.

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    He said he touched there legs. But it wasn't sexual.

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    If when asked, "are you sexually attracted to young boys?", you do not emphatically answer "NO!" immediately something is very, very wrong.

    For the life of me, I cannot figure out what his lawyer was thinking allowing that interview.
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    Rumor is that Paterno's statue will be taken down over Thanksgiving.

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    Paterno Passed On Home to His Wife for $1

    STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno transferred full ownership of his house to his wife, Sue, for $1 in July, less than four months before a sexual abuse scandal engulfed his Penn State football program and the university.

    Documents filed in Centre County, Pa., show that on July 21, Paterno’s house near campus was turned over to “Suzanne P. Paterno, trustee” for a dollar plus “love and affection.” The couple had previously held joint ownership of the house, which they bought in 1969 for $58,000.

    According to documents filed with the county, the house’s fair-market value was listed at $594,484.40. Wick Sollers, a lawyer for Paterno, said in an e-mail that the Paternos had been engaged in a “multiyear estate planning program,” and the transfer “was simply one element of that plan.” He said it had nothing to do with the scandal.

    Paterno, who was fired as the football coach at the university last week, has been judged harshly by many for failing to take more aggressive action when he learned of a suspected sexual assault of a child by one of his former top assistants.

    Some legal experts, in trying to gauge the legal exposure of the university and its top officials to lawsuits brought by suspected victims of the assistant, Jerry Sandusky, have theorized that Paterno could be a target of civil actions. On Nov. 5, Sandusky, Penn State’s former defensive coordinator, was charged with 40 counts related to the reported sexual abuse of eight boys over 15 years. Paterno, 84, was among those called to give testimony before a grand jury during the investigation, which began in 2009.

    Experts in estate planning and tax law, in interviews, cautioned that it would be hard to determine the Paternos’ motivation simply from the available documents. It appears the family house had been the subject of years of complex and confusing transactions.

    Lawrence A. Frolik, a law professor at the University of Pittsburgh who specializes in elder law, said that he had “never heard” of a husband selling his share of a house for $1 to his spouse for tax or government assistance purposes.

    “I can’t see any tax advantages,” Frolik said. “If someone told me that, my reaction would be, ‘Are they hoping to shield assets in case if there’s personal liability?’ ” He added, “It sounds like an attempt to avoid personal liability in having assets in his wife’s name.”

    Two lawyers examined the available documents in recent days. Neither wanted to be identified because they were not directly involved in the case or the property transaction. One of the experts said it appeared to be an explicit effort to financially shield Joe Paterno. The other regarded the July transaction, at least on its face, as benign.

    Last Wednesday, the university’s board of trustees fired Paterno and Graham B. Spanier, the university’s president.

    In 2002, Mike McQueary, then a graduate assistant in the football program, told Paterno that he had seen Sandusky with a boy in the football building’s showers. How explicit McQueary was in describing what he saw is in dispute. But according to state prosecutors, Paterno testified under oath that McQueary had told him that he had seen Sandusky doing something of a sexual nature to a roughly 10-year-old boy.
    Paterno did not report the incident to the police or encourage McQueary to make

    such a report. Instead, he passed along the allegation the next day to the university’s athletic department and one other senior administrator.

    On the day he was fired last week, Paterno said he and his wife were praying for the victims, described the events as a tragedy and admitted that he wished he had done more in 2002.

    “Coach Paterno wants to tell his side of the story and answer questions, and I am hopeful he will be able to do so down the road,” said Sollers, Paterno’s lawyer.

    The lawyer whose name is attached to the latest matter involving the couple’s house is David C. Pohland of Cassidy, Kotjarapoglus & Pohland of Greensburg, Pa. Pohland did not return a telephone message on Tuesday. The maiden name of Sue Paterno, who is 13 years younger than her husband, is Pohland. It was uncertain if there was any relation between her and the lawyer.

    Nate Schweber and Jo Becker contributed reporting.
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    To me, the removal of the statue indicates that people in power know that this is going to get worse before it gets better. I think we've just seen the tip of the iceberg for Penn State and Joe Paterno.

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    To me, the removal of the statue indicates that people in power know that this is going to get worse before it gets better. I think we've just seen the tip of the iceberg for Penn State and Joe Paterno.
    Nah, I think the worst is out there. In two months (max), this will cease to be a real story anymore.

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    McQueary said he went to the police after he stopped the incident in the shower. If he did actually go to the police, then it's gonna get bigger.

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    If he was in any way pimping out boys for money it's going to get a lot lot bigger.
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    Nah, I think the worst is out there. In two months (max), this will cease to be a real story anymore.

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    If he was in any way pimping out boys for money it's going to get a lot lot bigger.
    I saw a rumor about this days ago but haven't heard any follow up, so what prompted you to post this?

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    McQueary said he went to the police after he stopped the incident in the shower. If he did actually go to the police, then it's gonna get bigger.

    Saw something on ESPN ticker that the Police have said they never heard from McQueary at all. Why do these people keep lying? It's going to come out in the end. Surely not a Police cover up right?
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    I saw a rumor about this days ago but haven't heard any follow up, so what prompted you to post this?

    Same as you it was rumored days ago that this could be a reality. If it is I'm sure it will probably come out then there will be a lot of people involved in the charges.

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