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  • Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading him

    Well this ought to be an interesting thread and at him actually thinking Manning would be understanding about such a thing. I get his logic out with the old in with the new(the Niners did this first not the Packers they were lucky to get Aaron Rodgers that low in the draft) I mean really unlike the Steelers the Colts can't seem to win without Manning or is he too blind to see that as well?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...rading-manning

    Dungy: Colts should draft Luck, even if it means trading ManningBy Marc Sessler NFL.com

    When former Colts coach Tony Dungy surveys the winless team he once led, he is reminded of his early years as a defensive backs coach with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

    Armed with an aging Terry Bradshaw at the helm, the team passed on a guy named Dan Marino in the 1983 NFL Draft and spent another 20 years searching for a franchise quarterback.



    Dungy believes the Colts need to look to the future and draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck if they have the chance.

    "I think you have to take him," Dungy told The Dan Patrick Show on Friday.

    Dungy said Peyton Manning "would handle it OK, because you know it's coming."

    "I would see him competing and playing as long as he wanted," Dungy said. "If it gets to the point to where, hey, he comes back and it looks like he's gonna play three or four more years, and you say -- we've got Andrew Luck, we've got an asset -- we trade (Peyton)."

    Trade Manning?

    Up until now, the mere idea of parting ways with No. 18 seemed impossible. But the Colts have wandered into strange lands, 0-6 for the first time since 1997, a disastrous season that netted Indy the top pick in the 1998 draft. They used that pick on Peyton, and they shouldn't be afraid to pull the trigger again come April.
    Last edited by Basketball Fan; 10-23-2011, 10:46 PM. Reason: Update

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    Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

    I was listening and I thought he meant that Luck was a major asset and if it looks like Manning is going to play a, while longer, they can trade Luck.

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      Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

      Originally posted by Foul on Smits View Post
      I was listening and I thought he meant that Luck was a major asset and if it looks like Manning is going to play a, while longer, they can trade Luck.

      Really? I just saw this on NFL.com so I guess he meant Manning.

      And really while from a business standpoint I understand it if Manning is healthy its wrong that he would be the one to go but not Polian or Caldwell or the rest of the coaching staff that can't seem to win a game without him there.

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        Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

        Manning can still cover up for so many mistakes/deficiencies and gives us the best chance at getting to the super bowl.

        Luck, while highly regarded, hasn't done anything. On top of that, he'll be a rookie and won't be able to cover up for any of the deficiencies we have on offense or defense.

        All hinges on whether Manning is going to be able to play again. I'm fine with drafting Luck, playing Manning the next year and see how he is. You can always trade Manning if he doesn't quite look the same, or if he's just as effective, you can still trade Luck for a ransom.
        First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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          Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

          Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
          Manning can still cover up for so many mistakes/deficiencies and gives us the best chance at getting to the super bowl.

          Luck, while highly regarded, hasn't done anything. On top of that, he'll be a rookie and won't be able to cover up for any of the deficiencies we have on offense or defense.

          All hinges on whether Manning is going to be able to play again. I'm fine with drafting Luck, playing Manning the next year and see how he is. You can always trade Manning if he doesn't quite look the same, or if he's just as effective, you can still trade Luck for a ransom.


          Yeah but we also need a coach worth a damn and a defense to go with it we don't have either of those things either whether Manning or Luck we aren't going to win an SB unless those issues are resolved.

          If Manning can play again and we get Luck I'd like to keep both and trade some of our aging vets for draft picks.

          Course this is all moot if the Dolphins end up getting Luck and yes I seriously think they are worse than us hard to believe but true.

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            Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

            i agree with Dungy. Even with Peyton at his pre-injury level we don't have a super bowl team. We need to retool the O line, replace aging players, get some defensive players and more. No one wants to see Peyton go but Peyton could be a valuable asset to some team a lot closer to the super bowl than we are. We don't have any idea as to how many years Peyton has left.

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              Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

              Originally posted by speakout4 View Post
              i agree with Dungy. Even with Peyton at his pre-injury level we don't have a super bowl team. We need to retool the O line, replace aging players, get some defensive players and more. No one wants to see Peyton go but Peyton could be a valuable asset to some team a lot closer to the super bowl than we are. We don't have any idea as to how many years Peyton has left.
              While that's true if Manning is healthy and can still play why wouldn't you maximize your opportunity to actually make an SB push?

              Of course we also need new management and coaching staff to get the best talent and maximize it and that's not happening anytime soon either.

              If it comes down to this it probably is a blessing in disguise for Manning because you're right even with Manning this isn't an SB team it was just disguised as one for the last few years.

              I just think of all the people to get rid of with this team Manning isn't the first option.. Caldwell and the rest of the coaching staff would make a great start...

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                Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                If only we didn't miss on our first round picks over the past 4 or 5 years (some seconds too), we probably would feel a bit differently.
                First time in a long time, I've been happy with the team that was constructed, and now they struggle. I blame the coach.

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                  Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                  Originally posted by Sparhawk View Post
                  If only we didn't miss on our first round picks over the past 4 or 5 years (some seconds too), we probably would feel a bit differently.
                  Team may be more talened but the coaching is still an issue

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                    Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                    Originally posted by Basketball Fan View Post
                    While that's true if Manning is healthy and can still play why wouldn't you maximize your opportunity to actually make an SB push?

                    Of course we also need new management and coaching staff to get the best talent and maximize it and that's not happening anytime soon either.

                    If it comes down to this it probably is a blessing in disguise for Manning because you're right even with Manning this isn't an SB team it was just disguised as one for the last few years.

                    I just think of all the people to get rid of with this team Manning isn't the first option.. Caldwell and the rest of the coaching staff would make a great start...
                    Truthfully if Peyton has a few good years left i would like to see him maximize those years contending for a SB. We would get Luck and some real assets for Peyton and in maybe 5 years look like a playoff team again. I want a QB who has 10 years or more to grow with this team..
                    All those first round draft choices just wasted as well as many second and third. We do well in the later rounds but with guys like Brown, Hughes, Gonzales, Pollack,etc. we can't talk SB anymore. We have guys always going down and a injury list weekly that is much longer than our opposing teams.

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                      Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                      Trading Manning would be amongst the most insane moves any sports GM has ever made. Many knew exactly how bad this team would be without #18 behind center, and this season should have enlightened the rest. No other human has the ability to make this roster look like it belongs in the NFL. Tom Brady couldn't lead this unit to 6 wins.

                      Unless Luck turns out to be a better QB than Manning (SPOILER ALERT!: He won't), this team has much bigger concerns than just plugging in another great QB prospect and collecting championships. And since it seems unlikely that those larger concerns will be handled anytime in the near, or even distant future, we better enjoy the success that only #18 can bring us for as long as possible.

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                        Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                        Originally posted by Wage View Post
                        Trading Manning would be amongst the most insane moves any sports GM has ever made. Many knew exactly how bad this team would be without #18 behind center, and this season should have enlightened the rest. No other human has the ability to make this roster look like it belongs in the NFL. Tom Brady couldn't lead this unit to 6 wins.

                        Unless Luck turns out to be a better QB than Manning (SPOILER ALERT!: He won't), this team has much bigger concerns than just plugging in another great QB prospect and collecting championships. And since it seems unlikely that those larger concerns will be handled anytime in the near, or even distant future, we better enjoy the success that only #18 can bring us for as long as possible.
                        Luck may not ever be a better QB than Manning in his prime but he may be better than a 36 year old Manning coming off neck surgery.

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                          Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                          Originally posted by Wage View Post
                          Trading Manning would be amongst the most insane moves any sports GM has ever made. Many knew exactly how bad this team would be without #18 behind center, and this season should have enlightened the rest. No other human has the ability to make this roster look like it belongs in the NFL. Tom Brady couldn't lead this unit to 6 wins.

                          Unless Luck turns out to be a better QB than Manning (SPOILER ALERT!: He won't), this team has much bigger concerns than just plugging in another great QB prospect and collecting championships. And since it seems unlikely that those larger concerns will be handled anytime in the near, or even distant future, we better enjoy the success that only #18 can bring us for as long as possible.

                          I agree but if Montana can be traded from the Niners anyone can.

                          Not saying it will come to that but it could happen.

                          I can't help but wonder what Manning thinks when he watches how this team is without him. That they can't win a game without him. Would definately lead me to question if this team really did their best to build around my talents.

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                            Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                            Originally posted by speakout4 View Post
                            Luck may not ever be a better QB than Manning in his prime but he may be better than a 36 year old Manning coming off neck surgery.
                            Maybe, but does it matter? Do you think there is a QB in the NFL not named Manning that could take this crew of misfits on a playoff run? I don't. We have a laundry list of issues to solve before we are in any position to deal away the only person that has made us a winning program.

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                              Re: Dungy: Colts should draft Luck even if it means trading Manning

                              Originally posted by Basketball Fan View Post
                              I agree but if Montana can be traded from the Niners anyone can.

                              Not saying it will come to that but it could happen.

                              I can't help but wonder what Manning thinks when he watches how this team is without him. That they can't win a game without him. Would definately lead me to question if this team really did their best to build around my talents.
                              I agree, crazy things happen in the NFL, but at least Montana had a decent supporting cast. Take any second stringer in the league today and put him at the helm of that 49ers team. I think that team beats our current Manningless Colts 99 times out of 100 games.

                              San Fran could afford a downgrade at the QB position. They still had a ton of talent. What would we realistically get out of Manning in a deal? 5 draft picks? AKA 2 bad offensive linemen and 3 bad running backs under current management.

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