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    Hi folks,

    This will serve as a news-only/article-only thread that is designed to be constantly updated with the same stories that get shared in the Lockout News and Discussion thread, with the difference being that, here, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DISCUSSION WANTED.

    This is for people who want to catch up on and/or review the news and articles about the lockout without having to wade through all of the discussion that comes along with it.

    So this thread should only be a collection of links and/or pastes of articles and videos pertaining to the lockout, and any commentary by posters will be removed, though you should know not to do it in the first place, too.

    The problem that might occur here is that not enough people make the effort to post their news in both threads.

    That is on you if you are one of the people who complained about having to go through 6 pages of arguing just to find there was no news buried inside. You wanted something clean and to the point? Here it is, but you all have a share of the responsibility in keeping it as updated as the discussion thread.

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    Any news yet been at work

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    Haven't really heard much of what's going on with respect to the mediation
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    Gotcha thanks, wasn't sure if it was over or what

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    Going on 8 hours now.
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    Chris Broussard just came on ESPN and said the only thing he's heard from inside the room today is that Cohen has brought a sense of compromise to both parties and that things are going "well." Broussard went on to say that that doesn't mean a deal will get done tonight but they could perhaps agree to some minor things.

    Sorry for no link, just saw this 3-4 minutes ago on ESPN.

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    paugasol Pau Gasol
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    Good night to everyone from Spain! I hope I wake up with good news tomorrow about the #lockout
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    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Right on cue, followers pointing out how impressed they are owners/players put in 8-hour day. Fans are running out of patience.
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    alanhahn Alan Hahn
    Into the 8th Hour of #NBA mediation, sources in the room are saying " ." Not sure what to make of it.
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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    NBA-NBPA labor meeting with federal mediator lurching toward nine hours here in New York. It isn't expected to end soon.
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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Source in labor talks tells Y!: "My gut is progress will be made but not sure to what degree...(meeting) going to go well into night."
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    stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
    In the spirit of Charlie Brown... I refuse to try and kick the football again only to have the NBPA pull it out from under me....
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    stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
    That said, nine hours in the room is a good thing given how close both sides were coming into this process... Not ready to call it yet.
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    Looks like the Union kept the stars not on the board out:

    http://sheridanhoops.com/2011/10/18/...-talks-in-nyc/

    Update from Lockout Talks in NYC
    October 18, 2011 By Chris Sheridan Leave a Comment

    By Chris Sheridan

    NEW YORK — It’s a full house here at the NBA lockout talks, with every member of the owners’ labor relations committee and every member of the players’ executive committee in attendance (with the exception of Keyon Dooling), along with a federal mediator. We’ve even got an extra Buss, with both Jerry, and his daughter, Jeanie, sitting in the negotiating room.

    As the clock neared 6 p.m., the sides had been meeting for almost eight hours. The most colorful anecdote from the press room was when the union, upon hearing the league had send cookies to the media room, responded by sending ice cream bars.

    Representing the owners are Peter Holt (San Antonio), Clay Bennett (Oklahoma City), Mickey Arison (Miami), Mark Cuban (Dallas), Jim Dolan (New York), Dan Gilbert (Cleveland), Wyc Grousbeck (Boston), Larry Miller (Portland), Robert Sarver (Phoenix), Glen Taylor (Minnesota) and Bob VanderWeide (Orlando).

    Representing the players are Derek Fisher, Maurice Evans, Chris Paul, Theo Ratliff, Etan Thomas, Matt Bonner, Roger Mason and James Jones.

    Mediator George Cohen met with the sides separately on Monday, and commissioner David Stern has said Tuesday’s talks were crucial.

    The league’s Board of Governors, with one representative from each of the league’s ownership groups, is meeting Wednesday and Thursday in New York.

    For a rundown of where the sides began the day, and the details of what they are fighting over, click here for yesterday’s column on that subject.
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    Now the city of Memphis is considering suing the NBA:

    http://www.sbnation.com/2011/10/18/2...it-fedex-forum

    The city of Memphis will consider suing the NBA and the Grizzlies to recoup losses caused by the ongoing NBA lockout, according to Lauren Lee of MyFoxMemphis. Memphis' city council approved a resolution on Tuesday that allows city staff to explore paths to reimbursement, including litigation, should the city be forced to pick up the tab for up to $18 million in bond payments usually covered by revenue generated at FedEx Forum by Grizzlies home games.

    The league has cancelled all of the preseason and the first two weeks of the regular season while negotiating off and on with the players' union over salary concessions and salary cap changes. NBA commissioner David Stern has warned he will cancel all games through Christmas if a deal is not soon reached. As Memphis' city council approved the resolution allowing for a lawsuit on Tuesday, league and players' union officials were stretching toward their ninth hour on negotiations under the guidance of federal mediator George Cohen.

    The FedEx Forum in Memphis, like many NBA arenas, is owned by the public. Reports have suggested that over the past decade, the public has funded $1.75 billion of the $2 billion in construction costs sunk into NBA arenas.
    daldridgetnt David Aldridge
    Smoke 'em if you got 'em: coming up on 10 hrs with Mediator Cohen, league, union. No end expected for a while. Have no idea what it means...
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    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    Meeting btwn NBA owners & players has now crossed the 9-hour mark. Longest negotiating session yet. You'd think that's a good sign.
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    AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
    The NBA and NBPA have been behind closed doors for nearly 11 hours. This is the longest meeting the two sides have had since lockout began.
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    WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
    Dinner just arrived for the league and union officials, and talks push into a 12th hour in New York,
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    Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
    11 hrs & counting. I'm told owners & players have talked about concepts & minor issues. Not tons of ground made on 2 biggies (BRI & lux tax)
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    SeanDeveney Sean Deveney
    Asked an agent with knowledge of negotiations if the length of talks signals a deal tonight. "No way this is getting done tonight," he said.
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    NYPost_Berman Marc Berman
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    Remember Cohen had 17 sessions with NFL with no deal. He has 1 day and tons of unresolved issues. Lower expectations.
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    David Aldridge is reporting on NBATV that if legitimate progress is being made tonight, there is plenty of time this week from them to continue, even with Board of Governors meetings this week.
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    KBergCBS Ken Berger
    Labor meeting is wrapping up, I'm told.
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    Aaaaaand we've hit the 12-hr mark at NBA MediationFest 2011. They are wrapping up, I'm told.
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    http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nb...update_9pm.nba

    DA update on labor talks, good video
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    HowardBeckNYT HowardBeckNYT
    Breaking: I'm now told they are NOT wrapping up. False alarm. Return to your regularly scheduled lives.
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    Agree. RT @hoopscritic: @alanhahn Likely that Cohen pushed both sides to agree to gag order. Public rhetoric has damaged this negotiation
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    as per RealGM...its now in the 14th hour...wow
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    NEW YORK (AP) - NBA players and owners met for more than 14 hours with a federal mediator, hoping to deliver the progress Commissioner David Stern says is needed to avoid canceling more games.

    The talks started about 10 a.m. Tuesday. Stern sought immediate results in just one day of mediation, saying during interviews last week that proposals could get worse and more games could be lost without a deal.

    "If there's a breakthrough, it's going to come on Tuesday,'' he told NBA TV. "And if not, I think that the season is really going to potentially escape from us because we aren't making any progress.''

    This was the longest negotiating session since owners locked out players when the old collective bargaining agreement expired at the end of the day June 30.

    In another interview, Stern told WFAN radio in New York that his "gut'' was there wouldn't be NBA games on Christmas if the 110th day of the lockout ended without a deal.

    Large gaps remain, with both sides seeking 53 percent of basketball revenues and players opposing owners' attempts to significantly change the salary cap system.

    George Cohen, who was appointed director of the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service in 2009, met with the sides individually at their offices Monday before both brought their full bargaining committees to a hotel Tuesday. The union said it wanted to have the whole week set aside for negotiations, but owners have two days of board meetings beginning Wednesday.

    Stern wants to be able to bring them a deal. If not, they may have to discuss further cancellations after the first two weeks of the season were already wiped out.

    Cohen was present for talks between NFL owners and players for 16 days in February and March before that mediation broke off.

    He previously helped broker a deal between Major League Soccer and its players and was lead lawyer for the baseball players' union when it won an injunction against its owners in 1995, ending the 7 1/2-month strike.
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    LOL!

    This keeps getting re-tweeted as an official pic from inside the labor meetings.

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    Watch the video...probably no deal tonight:

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nba/story...hours-mediator
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    FisolaNYDN by sam_amick
    Mark Cuban issues a "no comment" as he leaves the meeting. And this is not a false alarm

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    Heard the mediation is over for now....but plan is to meet again tomorrow....make that later today. #NBA

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    wow apparently meeting again tomorrow at 10am? that's pretty hardcore surely they wouldn't be so gung ho about meeting again after 16 hours if nothing positive came of it

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    Ken Berger article

    http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.co...=rss_blogs_NBA

    Marathon mediation leads to another meeting
    Posted on: October 19, 2011 3:02 am

    NEW YORK -- After a marathon, 16-hour bargaining session supervised by federal mediator George Cohen, negotiators for the NBA and its players' association left a Manhattan hotel after 2 a.m. ET Wednesday with no comment -- but with another meeting scheduled hours later in an attempt to end the lockout.

    The two sides will reconvene at 10 a.m. Cohen requested that both sides refrain from making public comments, and both sides obliged.

    "Nothing has been agreed to," said a person who was briefed on the talks. "There was nothing to say."

    Negotiators rehashed the issues they've been wrestling with for more than two years, with the difference being that Cohen, according to a source, "took the emotion out of it." No topics were excluded from the mediation session, including the biggest obstacles in the way of a deal -- the split of revenues and a revised luxury tax system that would replace the hard team salary cap owners long sought in their efforts to achieve parity and competitive balance.

    Cohen, a presidential appointee and the top federal mediator in the country, was at least able to do something that the two sides had been unable to do during a recent flurry of negotiations: focus on bridging the gap between them as opposed to concentrating on their own, still widely divergent positions, a source said.

    At one point late into the night, it was decided that the two sides needed to come back later Wednesday -- a session that is expected to decide whether the change of format and removal of emotion will yield movement in each side's position.

    Both sides clearly realized it was time to make a deal, but neither was ready to do it in this -- by far the longest -- bargaining session of the 3 1-2 month lockout.

    A meeting of the owners' labor relations committee previously scheduled for Wednesday morning will be replaced by that committee's bargaining session with the players, again under Cohen's supervision. The owners' full Board of Governors is scheduled to meet Wednesday night, and Thursday, the planning committee is scheduled to present to the full board its revenue sharing plan -- a key cog in the logjammed talks.

    The meeting began at 10 a.m. Tuesday and finally broke up at 2 a.m. Wednesday, when both sides decided to return to the bargaining table eight hours later.

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    Oh great.

    http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/sport...132129268.html

    Bryant Gumbel Calls NBA Commish "Plantation Overseer"
    TV talker goes racial as pro basketball talks falter
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    By Greg Wilson | Wednesday, Oct 19, 2011 | Updated 8:46 AM EDT

    Bryant Gumbel invoked race in a televised editorial on the NBA's strained labor talks, likening league Commissioner David Stern to a "plantation overseer."

    Gumbel ended Tuesday's edition of HBO's "Real Sports" by taking aim at Stern, who he said is to blame for the lockout that threatens the entire season. He said Stern's "disdain for the players" is "pathetic."

    "But his efforts were typical of a commissioner, who has always seemed eager to be viewed as some kind of modern plantation overseer treating NBA men as if they were his boys," Gumbel said. "It’s part of Stern’s M.O. Like his past self-serving edicts on dress code or the questioning of officials, his moves are intended to do little more than show how he’s the one keeping the hired hands in their place."

    Gumbel has often played the race card when talking sports. In 2006, when then-NFL Commissioner Paul Tagliabue was leaving office, he said Tagliabue kept Players Union boss Gene Upshaw on a "leash" as his "personal pet." The comment was widely viewed as having a racial overtone.

    Later that year, Gumbel explained why he doesn't like the Winter Olympics.

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    The NBA and its players union were talking with a federal mediator present into early Wednesday morning in a marathon effort to bridge their gap.The league's lockout is 111 days old, and the first two weeks of the season have already been canceled.

    Talks are hung up on how to divide revenue and the league's salary cap. Owners want to cut the players’ share of revenues to 47 percent from 57 percent. The owners have dropped their demand for a hard salary cap but they insist on new restrictions on the soft-cap system.

    The average salary in the NBA is $4.8 million, the highest in all professional sports.
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    Some of you need to re-read (assuming you ever did to begin with) the first post. It's getting ridiculous.

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