Why so SERIOUS
Why so SERIOUS
sign me up for Scott Machado after watching a few of his games latley I love his game. I am watching him right now as well and this kid I really like plays the game the right way. He would be a terrific backup for us he is a floor general with great vision and can make the open jumper and get to the rim when the time presents itself. He doesnt project to be a good defender imo but he wont be a liability I would say average but he has quick hands should get a bunch of steals.
Much rather take him in the 2nd than Marshall in the 1st I like Machado's overall game better than Marshall's.*
I am really a fan though of the whole IONA team Mo-mo Jones transferred to IONA and I didn't even know he was big in Arizona's run last year.
everyone on that team plays very unselfish and the ball movement is a thing of beauty.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-20-2012 at 11:42 PM.
Today is a huge day with huge matchups got about 12 games set to DVR.
12pm-1am will be good college games on
Creighton ISU I am looking forward to as a sleeper game. As well as the Murray State game.
Vandy vs Mississippi st should be good
But Baylor Mizz is the best game on the docket in terms of college ranking. But to me Bama UK will be a good test for how good offensively some of the UK players are Bama is a beast of a defensive team.
props to Marquis Teague he has improved every game and is slowly but surely building his stock back up in my eyes.He looks like a different player than he was at the start of the season. He is starting to make all the right plays, decisions and passes and early in the season he was the exact opposite.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-21-2012 at 12:30 PM.
I really like Arnett Moultrie. I think he can be our backup center.
he iss the only reason I am watching the Vandy game today. I am about Vandy ed out lol I have watched them play way to much.
Festus vs him will be a good matchup
My boy Quincy Acy has had a great game today same with Pierre Jackson and Quincy aka "Paul George mixed with Aminu" Miller
Ricardo Ratliffe has also had himself a game he is the leading FG % guy at almost 80% on the season.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-21-2012 at 04:06 PM.
You know what, even though I said earlier this season that PJIII would be the first overall pick in the draft, if I am a NBA team, I would rather trade down and get Quincy Miller, Jones lack of intensity worries me, especially in the NBA, does not seem like he is really playing with much passion.
Andre Drummond has really came along nicely, he really has a good chance to go #1...
Also glad to see that Teague is playing better.
Why so SERIOUS
I love Quincy Miller's game aved 17ppg or near that when PJ3 was out in the first 7 games. If he had hiss own team like Paul George did in college he would average 20ppg easy. He reminds me so much of Paul George i really like his game.
PPR isn't flawed unless you interpret it wrong. It doesn't factor in scoring or defense because its meant to tell you how good of a creator for others you are without turning the ball over which is kind of important factor in being a pg in the NBA.
The fact is this is the first year he actually had a positive PPR because he doesn't commit as many turnovers which is great but even if you compare him to other scoring pg's he doesn't even have Norris Coles PPR at Cleveland State last year.
Whether I disagree with his draft stock doesn't really matter its the fact that if you can take a guy later by trading down then do it. I doubt Lillard goes in the first round but if the Pacers pick him they should trade down IMO.
Last edited by Gamble1; 01-21-2012 at 04:20 PM.
Funny you mention Cole and his PPR. He was a negative PPR player much of his time at Cleveland State wasn't until his senior season he was way into the postive at 2.3.
Mo Williams is a guy I like to compare to Lillard his PPR is 1. I am not saying he is a pass first pg right now he isnt. But he makes plays the game the right way doesnt force things he was recruited to be a pass first pg but he is so much better that they need him to be an effient scorer which he is.
Yeah, Miller is nice, I doubt PJIII will ever get it, the intensity that is, and it really sucks.
As far as Sidney, I think he has the skills, but work ethic and conditioning are his problems I think, not sure if that will ever change.
Why so SERIOUS
I like John Henson quite a bit. He might take a few years to develop but he could certainly be worth the wait.
Moultrie played great tonight I have it on DVR havent watched it all only the 1st half but he played great. He needs to get in better shape they had him playing PF a lot tonight I wanted to see him guard Festus but that didnt happen much. He is what I called skilled if he gets in better shape and stronger he will be a player at the next level he needs to add LBs and strength though. I wish he had Festus body which is truly an NBA body.
We arent getting Henson he is going in the lottery. We need a guy like him though a defensive big Pat Young may be realistic same with Festus.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-21-2012 at 08:50 PM.
Why so SERIOUS
High praise for the guy I would like to take a gamble on I spoke on him in an earlier post in this thread. He reminds me of Tristan Thomson but more versatile in terms of offense(better jumper) I really like his game. But he is still very raw.franfraschilla Fran Fraschilla
I saw UNT's Tony Mitchell two weeks ago and he has body of Dennis Rodman and a soft jumper. Basketball feel is still a work in progress.
He is the defensive shot blocker we could use and should be on the board when we pick.
I saw him in a few Adidas camp games and also a few North Texas games I have film of.
right now for me
1st rd = Tony Mitchell
2nd rd= Scott Machado (trade up)
I love Machado he always has his head up looking for the open man. Good shooter can get to the rim when the opportunity presents itself He rebounds very well for a pg and is a decent defender and will do the little things on defense I just love his game all the way around. True floor general and leader and can play off the ball aswell as on the ball very well.
We may have to trade up to get Machado but I would do it.
Quincy Miller or Tony Mitchell would be nice.
3 scenarios for the draft, starting with my favorite first:
1. Pacers trade up for Justice Winslow
2. Take WCS or Stanley Johnson (this is the theory of a player falling); Make trades (Hibbert/West/others) for additional picks - George Lucas and Rakeem Christmas are players I'd love to have with a late first/early 2nd round
3. Trey Lyles
I'm sure my opinion will change many times before the draft though.
Lillard IMO will be more a pg than Hill(many know I dont think Hill is a pg at all) but they are very similar I could see Lillard playing both at the NBA level(he has a pretty long wingspan like Hill he should be able to play the 2)
He would be a good Hill(if he walks) replacement he has higher upside IMO than George.
I have Machado so far ahead of Marshall on my big board. Marshall will be an ok pg in the right system but we don't play his style.(we play defense and halfcourt offense) Machado can do it all good in the half court and excellent in transition.
I have a hard time finding a comparison for Scott Machado I guess my best would be Andre Miller?? Very smart player doesnt turn the ball over and a great passer and can score when needed.
He played a hell of a game last night in crunch time he took over.
I would love Quincy Miller but he will be long gone by the time we pick.
I guess I should talk about Mitchell also. He is a beast on the glass great rebounder he is also a beast defender and great shot blocker but the offense isnt there yet(outside a nice jumper from mid range and dunks and dirty man cleanups). But he is a freak of an athlete if he understands his role at the next level he can be a very special player like a Serge Ibaka. One concern is how he missed all of last year due to bad grades but I prefer good players I could care less about his grades for the nba level as long as he isnt a cancer in the locker room and I don't think he is. He seems to have a good attitude and seems to be a good teammate from watching his games(hard to judge just off film though lol)
Also what I like about him is he is adding things to his game first time I saw him playing for team USA he has no jumper. Now he has a pretty decent jumper and can even shoot the 3 if he is left open. So to me that shows he is a some what hard worker. I like guys who add new stuff year after year that make them self better.
He plays at 1pm today on espn3.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-28-2012 at 11:35 AM.
Yes he should be he goes to North Texas and still somewhat of a project. But who knows he may rise up the boards at the combine but I think he should be there right now I have him going mid 20s.
here is a good read on his background http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ell/index.html
Think about how good Mizzu would be adding him.
Im just about to start watching his game today
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-28-2012 at 12:59 PM.
Mitchell's first 4 minutes so far
2 blocks a steal 5pts with a 3pter
He is guarded by a person bigger than him but Tony is dominating him. (his 7'2 wingspan lets him play bigger than he is)
He had a chase down block like Prince did to Reggie.
7pts 5rebs 3blks 1steal in 8mins.
He has come so far in his face up game which is really good now. He has the quickest first step I have seen for a man his size in this draft he uses his quickness very well. His handle is very good for a PF he does tend to try to do to much on offense at times. He also can pass very well and can handle double teams better than most.
He just took 2 dribbles from half court to dunk it. That is impressive athletically speaking.
Last edited by pacer4ever; 01-28-2012 at 01:38 PM.