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Rule #1

Pacers Digest is intended to be a place to discuss basketball without having to deal with the kinds of behaviors or attitudes that distract people from sticking with the discussion of the topics at hand. These unwanted distractions can come in many forms, and admittedly it can sometimes be tricky to pin down each and every kind that can rear its ugly head, but we feel that the following examples and explanations cover at least a good portion of that ground and should at least give people a pretty good idea of the kinds of things we actively discourage:

"Anyone who __________ is a liar / a fool / an idiot / a blind homer / has their head buried in the sand / a blind hater / doesn't know basketball / doesn't watch the games"

"People with intelligence will agree with me when I say that __________"

"Only stupid people think / believe / do ___________"

"I can't wait to hear something from PosterX when he/she sees that **insert a given incident or current event that will have probably upset or disappointed PosterX here**"

"He/she is just delusional"

"This thread is stupid / worthless / embarrassing"

"I'm going to take a moment to point and / laugh at PosterX / GroupOfPeopleY who thought / believed *insert though/belief here*"

"Remember when PosterX said OldCommentY that no longer looks good? "

In general, if a comment goes from purely on topic to something 'ad hominem' (personal jabs, personal shots, attacks, flames, however you want to call it, towards a person, or a group of people, or a given city/state/country of people), those are most likely going to be found intolerable.

We also dissuade passive aggressive behavior. This can be various things, but common examples include statements that are basically meant to imply someone is either stupid or otherwise incapable of holding a rational conversation. This can include (but is not limited to) laughing at someone's conclusions rather than offering an honest rebuttal, asking people what game they were watching, or another common problem is Poster X will say "that player isn't that bad" and then Poster Y will say something akin to "LOL you think that player is good". We're not going to tolerate those kinds of comments out of respect for the community at large and for the sake of trying to just have an honest conversation.

Now, does the above cover absolutely every single kind of distraction that is unwanted? Probably not, but you should by now have a good idea of the general types of things we will be discouraging. The above examples are meant to give you a good feel for / idea of what we're looking for. If something new or different than the above happens to come along and results in the same problem (that being, any other attitude or behavior that ultimately distracts from actually just discussing the topic at hand, or that is otherwise disrespectful to other posters), we can and we will take action to curb this as well, so please don't take this to mean that if you managed to technically avoid saying something exactly like one of the above examples that you are then somehow off the hook.

That all having been said, our goal is to do so in a generally kind and respectful way, and that doesn't mean the moment we see something we don't like that somebody is going to be suspended or banned, either. It just means that at the very least we will probably say something about it, quite possibly snipping out the distracting parts of the post in question while leaving alone the parts that are actually just discussing the topics, and in the event of a repeating or excessive problem, then we will start issuing infractions to try to further discourage further repeat problems, and if it just never seems to improve, then finally suspensions or bans will come into play. We would prefer it never went that far, and most of the time for most of our posters, it won't ever have to.

A slip up every once and a while is pretty normal, but, again, when it becomes repetitive or excessive, something will be done. Something occasional is probably going to be let go (within reason), but when it starts to become habitual or otherwise a pattern, odds are very good that we will step in.

There's always a small minority that like to push people's buttons and/or test their own boundaries with regards to the administrators, and in the case of someone acting like that, please be aware that this is not a court of law, but a private website run by people who are simply trying to do the right thing as they see it. If we feel that you are a special case that needs to be dealt with in an exceptional way because your behavior isn't explicitly mirroring one of our above examples of what we generally discourage, we can and we will take atypical action to prevent this from continuing if you are not cooperative with us.

Also please be aware that you will not be given a pass simply by claiming that you were 'only joking,' because quite honestly, when someone really is just joking, for one thing most people tend to pick up on the joke, including the person or group that is the target of the joke, and for another thing, in the event where an honest joke gets taken seriously and it upsets or angers someone, the person who is truly 'only joking' will quite commonly go out of his / her way to apologize and will try to mend fences. People who are dishonest about their statements being 'jokes' do not do so, and in turn that becomes a clear sign of what is really going on. It's nothing new.

In any case, quite frankly, the overall quality and health of the entire forum's community is more important than any one troublesome user will ever be, regardless of exactly how a problem is exhibiting itself, and if it comes down to us having to make a choice between you versus the greater health and happiness of the entire community, the community of this forum will win every time.

Lastly, there are also some posters, who are generally great contributors and do not otherwise cause any problems, who sometimes feel it's their place to provoke or to otherwise 'mess with' that small minority of people described in the last paragraph, and while we possibly might understand why you might feel you WANT to do something like that, the truth is we can't actually tolerate that kind of behavior from you any more than we can tolerate the behavior from them. So if we feel that you are trying to provoke those other posters into doing or saying something that will get themselves into trouble, then we will start to view you as a problem as well, because of the same reason as before: The overall health of the forum comes first, and trying to stir the pot with someone like that doesn't help, it just makes it worse. Some will simply disagree with this philosophy, but if so, then so be it because ultimately we have to do what we think is best so long as it's up to us.

If you see a problem that we haven't addressed, the best and most appropriate course for a forum member to take here is to look over to the left of the post in question. See underneath that poster's name, avatar, and other info, down where there's a little triangle with an exclamation point (!) in it? Click that. That allows you to report the post to the admins so we can definitely notice it and give it a look to see what we feel we should do about it. Beyond that, obviously it's human nature sometimes to want to speak up to the poster in question who has bothered you, but we would ask that you try to refrain from doing so because quite often what happens is two or more posters all start going back and forth about the original offending post, and suddenly the entire thread is off topic or otherwise derailed. So while the urge to police it yourself is understandable, it's best to just report it to us and let us handle it. Thank you!

All of the above is going to be subject to a case by case basis, but generally and broadly speaking, this should give everyone a pretty good idea of how things will typically / most often be handled.

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If this is done the wrong way, those comments will be deleted, and if it's a repeating problem then it may also receive an infraction as well.

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Regarding infractions, currently they carry a value of one point each, and that point will expire in 31 days. If at any point a poster is carrying three points at the same time, that poster will be suspended until the oldest of the three points expires.

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The legal means of watching or listening to NBA games are NBA League Pass Broadband (for US, or for International; both cost money) and NBA Audio League Pass (which is free). Look for them on NBA.com.

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It may or may not go without saying, but this goes for threads and posts as well, particularly when it's not made on the off-topic board (Market Square).

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  • #31
    Re: League Update

    it's funny, soup has already submitted his protected list for the IKL though. might want to give him a heads up or something.

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    • #32
      Re: League Update

      Sent out emails to the three owners with their new teams an hour ago. I'll send out a group email later this evening. I'm working on one hour sleep since 6 a.m. yesterday and still have to finish my shift today, so I'll update everyone in a group email soon as I can.
      Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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      • #33
        Re: League Update

        And damn, here I thought I was on top of fantasy bball stuff so far. I saw your PM yesterday scott but got called into work unexpectedly. Working on getting back up to speed with stuff. . .
        You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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        • #34
          Re: League Update

          Or am I out? Re-reading the last few posts I can't quite tell what's went down. Sorry for being so out of the loop, ya'll, either way.


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          in case I'm still in , protected list -

          Lebron James
          Lamar Odom
          Patrick Patterson
          Stephen Jackson
          Jeff Teague
          George Hill
          Eric Bledsoe
          Kendrick Perkins
          Ronny Turiaf

          dropping

          Rudy Fernandez
          Antonio McDyess
          Shelden Williams
          Last edited by SoupIsGood; 12-15-2011, 01:23 PM.
          You, Never? Did the Kenosha Kid?

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          • #35
            Re: League Update

            The Team Previously known as Discover Tasmania.com Go !!!!! Warriors

            Protected

            Andrew Bogut
            Dwight Howard
            Kris Humphries
            Terrence Williams
            Russell Westbrook
            Kobe Bryant
            Wilson Chandler
            Al Harrington
            Wesley Johnson

            Released
            Zydrunas Ilgauskas
            Andrei Kirilenko
            Wes Matthews

            my apologies for the delay, bring on the season Boom Chicka Wo Wow !
            Ya Think Ya Used Enough Dynamite there Butch...

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            • #36
              Re: League Update

              You got a reprieve, Soup! I contacted the guy taking over your team in time and told him you were back in the fold and he wouldn't be needed.

              So, we are now up to our full 20 teams and are good to go. Finally. I'm sending out a league letter as soon as I can get it drafted.


              Originally posted by SoupIsGood View Post
              Or am I out? Re-reading the last few posts I can't quite tell what's went down. Sorry for being so out of the loop, ya'll, either way.....


              edit

              This went out today:

              New Team Owners

              Tnt and newman left us, but we have some new blood.
              Joining us will be Zed Allen, aka zallen541 (zallen541@yahoo.com). He is taking over Just Dynamite’s team and has renamed it Emerald City Tomfools. He’s a Trailblazer and Oregon Ducks fan and was steered to us by Jake, aka, Dr. Badd. Although I’m hesitant to let first year guys into the league, Zed has a real enthusiasm for the NBA and Jake has tutored him on the ways of Sports.ws. Make sure you give him a warm welcome and heap abuse on him as you would anyone else!

              Also joining us is Aaron Newman, aka Chysalid (anewmania@hotmail.com) who is taking over newman’s team, Crazy Canucks. Aaron is newman’s brother, so just for laughs, I gave him his brother’s old team. He will helm the Kamloops Black Coats.

              New owners, just an FYI. Your teams both had a record of 41-15 and 36-20 last year, which placed them in the top four strongest teams, in terms of records, in the Western conference last year. You both inherited very good squads, so although you may want to put your stamp on your team with trades and such, bear that in mind.
              I’ve attached a file on how to set your rosters, etc.
              Draft
              I’m sorry we couldn’t vote on things as we usually do, but given the circumstances, I had to make an executive decision and pick a date, as you know. We will hold our draft, Saturday, 12/16 at 2:00 p.m., EST. With so many of you scattered around the world, I know that may make a hardship for some and I apologize in advance.
              If you absolutely can’t make the draft, PLEASE send me a contingency list and I will draft for you. And make your list as deep as you can. If I don’t have a player listed, I’ll pick the best player available. If you can make the draft, and leave, FILL YOUR CONTIGENCY LIST. I want to knock this thing out quickly, with a 15 minute window to make your pick.

              Send your lists to mr.scott.hunt@gmail.com. If you have something unforeseen pop up on draft day and you can’t get to a PC, feel free to call me at 317-340-7328. I don’t normally give my number out, but this season’s start is a bit unusual and I want to make sure everyone gets a fair shake.

              Protected Lists


              I believe I have everyone’s lists except Venice Vagabonds, Roaming Gnomes and Watss. If I misplaced them, I apologize. I need those protected players asap. If I don’t get those lists by 5:00 EST, I’ll pick which players are dropped. (And I’ll try to pick who I think you’d want to drop.)

              I’ve attached a rough draft of what I have to date on protected lists.


              I’ll send out the draft order and list of trade(s) later on today.


              ********************


              Rough draft 9 man protected lists--



              Amsterdam Pigeons:
              G - Derrick Rose (CHI)
              G - D.J. Augustin (CHA)
              G - Ramon Sessions (CLE)
              G - Johnny Flynn (HOU)
              F - Blake Griffin (LAC)
              F - Michael Beasley (MIN)
              F - Ed Davis (TOR)
              CF - David Lee (GSW)
              CF - Demarcus Cousins (SAC)

              This means I'm dropping:
              G - Leandro Barbosa (TOR)
              FC - Anthony Tolliver (MIN) Young Turks

              Keeping:
              Samuel Dalembert
              Carlos Boozer
              Antwan Jamison
              Joe Johnson
              Paul Pierce
              Devin Harris
              Hedo Turkoglu
              Brad Miller
              Nazr Mohammed

              Dropping:

              Earl Boykins
              Keyon Dooling
              Sasha Vujacic


              FROSTWOLF

              Keeping:
              Tyreke Evans
              Louis Williams
              Josh Smith
              Tyrus Thomas
              Javale McGee
              Greg Monroe
              Drew Gooden
              Reggie Evans
              Nicolas Batum

              Dropping:
              Gilbert Arenas
              Daniel Gibson
              Darrell Arthur


              Nash City Razorback

              Keeping:
              Marc Gasol
              Al Jefferson
              Kevin Garnett
              Marcin Gortat
              Baron Davis
              Danny Granger
              Luol Deng
              Jose Barea
              Troy Murphy

              Dropping:
              Shaquille O'Neal
              Shaun Livingston
              Grant Hill


              After my trade with Mourning I have revised my protected list to be the following:

              Cedar City Raven Redux

              Keeping:
              Andrea Bargnani
              Ricky Rubio
              Stephen Curry
              Brandon Rush
              Gordon Hayward
              Jordan Hill
              Gary Neal
              Reggie Williams
              DeMarr DeRozen

              Dropping:
              James Anderson
              Donte Greene
              Mareese Speights.

              South Beach Talents
              Keeping:
              Darko Milicic
              Rajon Rondo
              Rodrique Beaubois
              Kelenna Azubuike
              Anthony Morrow
              J.J. Hickson
              Taj Gibson
              Danilo Gallinari
              Jonas Jerebko

              Dropping:
              Yao Ming
              Semih Erden
              Brandan Wright


              Bangkok Banshee

              Keeping

              Chris Kaman
              Pau Gasol
              Ryan Anderson
              Chuck Hayes
              Robin Lopez
              Deron Williams
              Andre Miller
              Rodney Stuckey
              James Harden

              Dropping

              Marvin Williams
              Louis Amunson
              Craig Brackins


              Indiana Firetorm

              **Updated after today's news regarding Roy's retirement**

              Keeping:
              Roy Hibbert
              David West
              Corey Maggette
              Paul George
              Monta Ellis
              Kevin Martin
              Mike Conley
              Emeka Okafor
              Christian Eyenga

              Dropping:

              Aaron Gray
              A.J. Price
              Brandon Roy


              Gnawbone Hounds

              To keep:
              Deandre Jordan
              Amare Stoudamire
              Joakim Noah
              Paul Milsap
              Shawn Marion
              John Wall
              Kyle Lowry
              Jameer Nelson
              Jerryd Bayless

              Come to my office, with your playbook:
              Ekpe Udoh
              Glen Davis
              Luke Ridnour


              Harlem Funkadelics
              1) Manu Ginobili
              2) Brandon Jennings
              3) Jose Calderon
              4) Andrew Bynum
              5) Al Horford
              6) Anthony Randolph
              7) Larry Sanders
              8) Andray Blatche
              9) Austin Daye


              Castle de Verde Hoopsters
              keeping
              O.J. Mayo
              Aaron Brooks
              Ray Allen
              Kevin Durant
              Elton Brand
              Tyson Chandler
              Jeff Green
              Mike Dunleavy
              Aaron Afflalo

              waiving
              Boris Diaw
              Mehmet Okur
              Mike Miller


              The Team Previously known as Discover Tasmania.com Go !!!!! Warriors

              Protected

              Andrew Bogut
              Dwight Howard
              Kris Humphries
              Terrence Williams
              Russell Westbrook
              Kobe Bryant
              Wilson Chandler
              Al Harrington
              Wesley Johnson

              Released
              Zydrunas Ilgauskas
              Andrei Kirilenko
              Wes Matthews


              Little Fort Bottom Feeders

              PROTECTED LIST

              Greg Oden
              Chris Bosh
              Carmelo Anthony
              Tiago Splitter
              Charlie Villanueva
              Mo Williams
              Ty Lawson
              Marcus Thornton
              Nick Young

              WAIVED/DROPPED LIST

              Chris Anderson
              Ersan Ilyasova
              Goran Dragic


              Aaron Frederick (Chyrsilid)-Kamloops
              My 9 player protected list is:

              Tim Duncan
              Anderson Varejao
              Matt Barnes
              Tony Parker
              Steve Nash
              Tracy McGrady
              Dorrell Wright
              Jeff Foster
              Kwame Brown


              CONCORD Hobgob-Soupisgood

              Lebron James
              Lamar Odom
              Patrick Patterson
              Stephen Jackson
              Jeff Teague
              George Hill
              Eric Bledsoe
              Kendrick Perkins
              Ronny Turiaf

              dropping

              Rudy Fernandez
              Antonio McDyess
              Shelden Williams


              Young Turks

              Keeping:
              Samuel Dalembert
              Carlos Boozer
              Antwan Jamison
              Joe Johnson
              Paul Pierce
              Devin Harris
              Hedo Turkoglu
              Brad Miller
              Nazr Mohammed

              Dropping:

              Earl Boykins
              Keyon Dooling
              Sasha Vujacic


              Emerald City/Zed/ Old Just Dynamite team
              Dirk Nowitski
              Kevin Love
              Nene Hilario
              Ben Wallace DROP
              Andre Iguodala
              Chauncey Billups
              Jason Terry
              Kirk Hinrich DROP
              Omri Casspi
              Caron Butler
              Ben Gordon
              Richard Jefferson DROP
              Last edited by Skaut_Ech; 12-16-2011, 01:33 PM.
              Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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              • #37
                Re: League Update

                KEEP:
                Spencer Hawes
                Cole Aldrich
                Amir Johnson
                Derrick Favors
                Landry Fields
                Evan Turner
                Chase Budinger
                Jordan Farmar
                Omer Asik

                DROP:
                Hasheem Thabeet
                Manny Harris
                Xavier Henry
                “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” - Winston Churchill

                “If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to serve as a horrible warning.” - Catherine Aird

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                • #38
                  Re: League Update

                  I think you made a mistake in your 9-man roster for each team there, Scott. You have Aaron getting Kerosene's team instead of his brothers team (Newman).
                  2012 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                  2011 PD ABA Fantasy Keeper League Champion, sports.ws

                  2006 PD ABA Fantasy League runner up, sports.ws

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                  • #39
                    Re: League Update

                    yeah,I figured that out later. That's what I get for trying to do that at work
                    Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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                    • #40
                      Re: League Update

                      Scott, are you able to adjust the draft order and put our protected players on our rosters before we even start at 2PM tomorrow?

                      such power...



                      PS If I am not on right at 2PM, I will show up ASAP (I don't have a 1st round pick but I have 2 seconds and a 3rd). I may have to run an errand with the kids from 1-2:30 or so.
                      The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                      • #41
                        Re: League Update

                        Yup. That's how I'm spending my Friday nite so you all can wake up to full rosters and the draft order being set. I've already set up the conferences and just finsihed Amsterdam's roster. You know, the usual guys, Eddy Curry, Chris Duhon, Ryan Gomes...you know, his ususal squad. Wheee.....
                        Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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                        • #42
                          Re: League Update

                          The site still lists such luminaries available as

                          Raef LaFrentz,
                          Antoine Walker,
                          Dikembe Mutombo,
                          and your old favorite,
                          Maceo Baston.

                          They used to have a few joke names listed, probably names of the programmers, but I think that they have been deleted.
                          The poster "pacertom" since this forum began (and before!). I changed my name here to "Slick Pinkham" in honor of the imaginary player That Bobby "Slick" Leonard picked late in the 1971 ABA draft (true story!).

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                          • #43
                            Re: League Update

                            Your rosters have been entered!! I just need to tweak one. I just sent out a little note to your emails.
                            Hey! What're you kicking me for? You want me to ask? All right, I'll ask! Ma'am, where do the high school girls hang out in this town?

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                            • #44
                              Re: League Update

                              I'll be working during the draft - I've set up my list of 20 people - if for some reason they're all gone - I've informed Scott to make the picks on my behalf - I trust his judgement.

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                              • #45
                                Re: League Update

                                Hey, if you all ever need another owner, let me know. I deferred before, but I'm all for it now.

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