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    Yeah, and I doubt a close to 40 dude who was retired would come back unless he was told there was a good chance he'd be getting some significant playing time.
    I dunno about that. That might be the exact other scenario that would get a guy out of retirement... Stays around the game. No pressure to start/play. Can hang on a winning team. Become a pseudo coach in the process which could help as a stepping stone to the next phase of his life.

    Not that I think that is the scenario here but I'd think that scenario could be appealing to a 'retired' QB who no longer has the ego to think he should be starting.
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    I'm sure that was exactly what Reggie Wayne had in mind.

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    Yeah, and I doubt a close to 40 dude who was retired would come back unless he was told there was a good chance he'd be getting some significant playing time.
    Or an opportunity for a ring.
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    Of all the years for this to happen...

    It's the beginning of the end.

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    Of all the years for this to happen...

    It's the beginning of the end.
    I felt that way after we lost the SB to the Saints. That probably was our last chance which makes it even sadder.

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    Kravits says Colts are a 6 win team w/o Peyton
    He's being rather generous then again with Kerry Collins that might be accurate.

    Now if it was Painter we'd be the 2nd 0-16 team in NFL history.

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    Now if it was Painter we'd be the 2nd 0-16 team in NFL history.
    If that's what it takes to get Andrew Luck in here, I'd go for it. How entertaining would a 3-13, 4-12 or whatever it would be w/o Manning be ??

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    If that's what it takes to get Andrew Luck in here, I'd go for it. How entertaining would a 3-13, 4-12 or whatever it would be w/o Manning be ??
    I don't know about entertaining but it would be significant.

    It would also make it very disturbing how vital one player on a team really is.



    Of course we probably would have to thank Manning if that's the case since he told Andrew Luck to stay in school for another year just like he did.

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    I dunno about that. That might be the exact other scenario that would get a guy out of retirement... Stays around the game. No pressure to start/play. Can hang on a winning team. Become a pseudo coach in the process which could help as a stepping stone to the next phase of his life.

    Not that I think that is the scenario here but I'd think that scenario could be appealing to a 'retired' QB who no longer has the ego to think he should be starting.
    Collins admitted that he didn't think he could do all the prep work to start anymore. Of course playing for the Colts is different than playing for the Titans. I guess a HOF WR and TE could change anyones mind.

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    Of course we probably would have to thank Manning if that's the case since he told Andrew Luck to stay in school for another year just like he did.
    It's all falling into place ....................

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    It's all falling into place ....................
    Nah, it'll be like the Pacers. Bad enough to miss the playoffs, but not bad enough to get a top pick.

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    Nah, it'll be like the Pacers. Bad enough to miss the playoffs, but not bad enough to get a top pick.
    If it works out the Colts would have the top pick and if fans and experts are saying that Luck is the no-brainer pick for the Colts then Polian will then make a different pick/move entirely because he'll have to 'show' he's the smartest guy in the room....
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    If it works out the Colts would have the top pick and if fans and experts are saying that Luck is the no-brainer pick for the Colts then Polian will then make a different pick/move entirely because he'll have to 'show' he's the smartest guy in the room....
    Well, to be fair, he is 2-0 so far...

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    Well, to be fair, he is 2-0 so far...
    ??

    (Assuming you are referring to Manning and Edge)

    The majority of "experts" and people in the know preferred Manning over Leaf. It was at least 60/40 Manning....maybe even more. There were certainly quite a few who preferred Leaf, but more preferred Manning.

    Besides, that decision was not made by Polian alone IIRC. Due to the extreme importance of the pick, it was made by Irsay/Polian/Mora collectively.
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    If it works out the Colts would have the top pick and if fans and experts are saying that Luck is the no-brainer pick for the Colts then Polian will then make a different pick/move entirely because he'll have to 'show' he's the smartest guy in the room....
    Polain isn't Mike Shanahan. He would chose Andrew Luck IMO. IT would be pretty funny though if he took someone else and tried to sell the pick to the fanbase as the BPA.

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    ??

    The majority of "experts" and people in the know preferred Manning over Leaf. It was at least 60/40 Manning....maybe even more. There were certainly quite a few who preferred Leaf, but more preferred Manning.
    Well according to Bball, Polian would have drafted Leaf then. He would have felt he needed to show everyone he was the smartest man in the room, and done something differently.

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    Peyton Manning's pain might not go away any time soon.

    A doctor familiar with neck surgeries said there isn't a clear-cut timetable for recovery from such procedures and it's not a given the damaged nerve will ever heal.

    That the Indianapolis Colts four-time NFL MVP quarterback is experiencing weakness in his throwing arm so far removed from a May 23 surgery suggests the nerve hasn't healed, said Dr. Neel Anand, director of Orthopedic Spine Surgery at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center in Los Angeles.

    "The nerve was injured in some fashion, he has some weakness and now you're waiting for that nerve to recover," Anand said Tuesday. "Depending on the extent of the injury, it could take six weeks, it could take two years. And there's no guarantee it will come back."

    Colts vice chairman Bill Polian offered assurance in recent interviews Manning will eventually return. Manning isn't expected to play in Sunday's season opener at Houston, which would end a streak of 208 consecutive regular-season starts in his career, which is entering its 14th season.

    Polian told WISH-8 on Monday, "He is going to be back at some point. What we don't know right now is what the results of the diagnostic tests are, what is the prognosis going forward. This is uncharted territory, but we do know that the nerve regeneration takes time and it just hasn't healed yet. It will.

    "It's frustrating for Peyton, certainly it's a bit frustrating for us, but we recognized that the most important thing is that he heals up and he gets ready to go. It's no sense having him out there in an impaired condition, so the bottom line is he'll be back at some point. . . . In the meantime, Kerry (Collins) will hold the fort, and we'll go from here."

    The Colts signed Collins, a 17th-year pro, out of retirement two weeks ago in case Manning wasn't ready.

    Manning, 35, had what was described as a "minimally invasive" surgery in Chicago to remove part of a bulging disk. He had a similar surgery in March 2010 to alleviate pain from a different pinched nerve.

    But his latest recovery hasn't been as smooth as the first.

    "If all things went well with the (recent) surgery, he should be very much healed," Anand said. "So if he hasn't, I'd think that particular condition has gotten worse or he has a new condition, he's got a new disk (problem) elsewhere. That would make the most sense.

    "But we really don't know how bad (the damaged nerve) was to begin with."

    It's also more common for an athlete with one neck problem to develop another.

    "I always tell patients it's like having four tires on the car," the doctor said. "If your one tire went bad, you know the other three aren't that good. They all are around the same number of miles and took the same hits.

    "The earlier you do it, the better your chance of recovery of the nerve. The longer you (wait to) do it, the lessening of your chances of that nerve recovering properly."

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    We're screwed. Without Peyton, this is a 2-3 win team. At best.

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    We're screwed. Without Peyton, this is a 2-3 win team. At best.
    Nay, Collins is going to be better than what people think. We won't make the playoffs but we won't be bad enough to get Luck either.

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    Nay, Collins is going to be better than what people think. We won't make the playoffs but we won't be bad enough to get Luck either.

    I think he will too but its not up to just him though the defense also has to step up.

    And he was just thrown in two weeks before the season began.

    He's better than Painter at this point that's all I ask.

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    Beginning of the end in Indy. It was a good ride folks. Pinched nerves in the neck leading to operations and zapping the nerves are something I've seen over the years. This is not like setting a bone. I give Peyton a 25% chance of reaching top form again...and just a 50% chance of playing again. This is a shame because he had a good 5 years of peak performance in him IMHO.

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    I think he will too but its not up to just him though the defense also has to step up.

    And he was just thrown in two weeks before the season began.

    He's better than Painter at this point that's all I ask.
    Kerry Collins was around 2-12 as the starter for the Titans the past 2 years(saw it on espn). and He had Chris Johnson to hand the ball off too. I think anything over 3 wins would be a miracle the Colts defense and running game is that bad.

    (if Manning is done for the year)

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    Yes, better than Painter, who should've been cut, but let's not delude ourselves. Collins just isn't that good. Yeah, he went wild against us recently for the Titans, but you do have to take into account it was our D.

    Okay, Kerry, I said it. Now's your chance to make me eat my words. Good luck!
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