I cringe every time Elston takes a jump shot. He did play some good D down the stretch though. Oladipo is turning into quite a player.
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Also had a couple nice put backs down the stretch too, and can't be forgotten he played great post defense on Sullinger on OSU's final position. It was absolutely fabulous. He was ducking in and around Sullinger and just not allowing him to get ot a good spot or create a good passing lane. It was very well done and was the reason Craft even had to throw the ball to that freshman Thompson who promptly choked like a dog trying to eat the thanksgiving wishbone.
Also, on Thompson, I know everyone (ESPN and Matta) was jizzing their pants about his athleticism, but good Lord, he's a terrible BASKETBALL player. Didn't have the hands to catch a good pass by Craft and played some really lousy D down the stretch. Yeah he had a couple huge dunks but... so what? Those still only count for 2 points and he cost OSU way more than that with some of his mistakes.
To all the haters and doubters: IU has defeated the #1 and #2 teams in the country in the SAME SEASON.
IU BB is coming back a lot earlier than I thought it would.
They need to maintain their focus and intensity against a good Michigan team on Thursday.
Can't blame the refs. There were bad calls both ways. IU had a stretch where they were getting ALL the calls.
O$U was called for 22 fouls, IU 20. The refs did not favor IU at all.
The Buckeyes also shot more FTs than IU.
Do those one or two plays offset the 4-5 turnovers and inability to see anything but the 5 feet in front of him on the court? He's a mediocre shooter (good mid-range, zero distance game) in the bad position of being a ballhandler. Not all his fault, but I'd rather see Abell handling the ball and not killing the momentum, jacking up bad shots or just making boneheaded plays out there.
It's hard to believe VJ3 is a senior sometimes. People give him WAY too much leniency for being with this team through tough times. It's one thing to appreciate that, it's another to believe it justifies his playing time.
Ohio State shot more free throws. Got more rebounds and shot a better percentage. But IU had 6 less turnovers and took advantage of the ones we did get. Including the go ahead bucket by Vic. Gotta give props to Crean on this, last year this team would absolutely murder themselves with turnovers in the Big Ten season. And they started to fall into that habit against MSU, pretty clear Crean got that straightened out immediately in practice the past couple days. Other than Verdell, whcih we expect based on the way he plays and we have him play, we did a fantastic job protecting the ball.
Don't know if anyone has brought this up but I just saw Dan Gottlieb say that Indiana isn't a top 15 team. As much as I hate IU even I have to admit if you beat the top two teams you should be ranked in the top 15.
Gottlieb openly hates IU on a national level. He has never given them an ounce of credit for anything, even when we weren't one of the worst teams in the Big Ten.
It will be interesting to see where we're ranked after this. Losing to Michigan State pretty much has to be offset by beating Ohio State. In fact, we may even gain a spot or two.
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I would be shocked to see us drop. I don't know if we will move up, but it's very unlikely we will move down.
The curious person in me wonders how high we might have jumped had we managed to hang onto our 9 point lead with 10 minutes to go against Sparty...Luckily, I hold no real pain from that loss. Michigan State IMO is playing fantastic basketball and Izzo seems to have really figured this group out.
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Skip Bayless is definitely annoying but for me Stephen A Smith takes the cake. Take a downer or something and lose the know it all attitude. And when you get those two together I can't change the channel fast enough.
Bayless and Screamin' A Smith are what they are: pro trolls hired by ESPN to stir up conversation and get you talking about them/ESPN. It works. They do their jobs well, given what they're paid to do. Add Cowherd to that list. Others too, obviously. It's a recipe for success for ESPN that works every time someone says it doesn't.
Back to IU-OSU...how about the "rebound" efforts by some of these kids after the MSU game?! That's what impresses me most. Elston couldn't have been worse vs MSU...comes back and, a few bad jump shots notwithstanding, plays a smart, solid game and some incredible defense on Sullinger. Zeller couldn't have looked softer vs MSU, comes back and battles hard against the best big in the B1G, scores key buckets, may just have outplayed Sullinger actually. Hulls comes back after a nightmare game on both ends of the court, hits key shots, makes smart decisions and plays solid D down the stretch.
MENTAL RESILIENCY. Any sport with a long season requires it. These Hoosier kids are pretty mentally tough. That's going to pay dividends as they continue to grow. And it's going to set a great example for the talented incoming freshman class. I think people are overlooking that a bit: the talent is nice, but the example and work ethic need to be there. Hulls, Watford, Elston, Zeller (granted he'll on be a soph), Oladipo...these guys aren't going to let these freshmen come in and just try to get by on talent alone. I love what that means for IU's future.