Yeah, I don't feel great about this one.
Yeah, I don't feel great about this one.
Officials letting them play so far. I love it.
No, this officiating does suck. There is zero definition to what constitutes a foul vs what does not. First 5 mins was call everything (see also: Hulls picks up 2 quick fouls). Now nothing is called. Zeller getting hacked, no calls.
Christian Watford really is one of the most disappointing players in IU history. I keep waiting for him to have that DJ White epiphany. It's not going to happen.
Some seriously lazy ball on offense.
White was hurt/soft his first few years. He played too far away from the basket, played soft was too in love with his long-range game. He figured it out later in his junior year and all throughout the senior year: he needed to play like a damn forward. And his senior year was one of the guttiest years any IU player ever put together, even as the team crumbled around him. He boarded hard, he played hard inside, he boxed out, did all the right things.
Watford is a poodle in a Great Dane's body. Does everything half-assed, and does it 15+ feet away from the basket.
This ****ing ***** Gatens is kiling us. Mother****er.
White never played like watford. He may have been hurt at times or grown into his game but he was never as soft as watford.
Last edited by Trader Joe; 02-19-2012 at 07:55 PM.
Fair enough. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm waiting for Watford to have that epiphany that he needs to play like a 4, not a 2.
I thought White had a realization like that and played a lot harder later in his career. His attitude change got him in the NBA. I want Watford to have a similar epiphany, but I doubt he will.
Madison Square Garden.
gets the juices flowing, huh?
'Zo's Volunteers seem to be coming on, too, though to late for the Big Dance. Throw in maybe Butler, and it would be a pretty decent Final Four.
A 20 win iu team with wins over uk osu mich notre dame is not missing the tourney
Andrae Patterson is a better comparison to Watford...
Nuntius was right for a while. I was wrong for a while. But ultimately I was right and Frank Vogel has been let go.
"A player who makes a team great is more valuable than a great player. Losing yourself in the group, for the good of the group, thatís teamwork."
Man, had no idea how to attack the zone and got completely worked over physically. It's definitely been our downfall in B10 play - lack of length, strength, athleticism inside.
They need to work with Zeller in the offseason on developing jump hooks with both hands. Maybe just a left hand period around the hoop. All would really make him more effective around the rim.
Glad they made 20 wins and are likely in the tournament. No complaints. However, I think they've about shot their wad. Lot of holes to patch in terms of quickness/athleticism over the next couple years. Hopefully, recruits will live up to the hype.
I'd rather die standing up than live on my knees.
A bad loss for sure but this team is progressing nicely overall. People that get bent out of shape over this loss need to understand that IU is not a Final Four, top 15 team but is no longer a laughingstock in the conference or nationally.
At the very least, we should beat NCCU and Purdue at home, if we win a game or two in the tourney in Indianapolis (which will basically be a home environment for the Hoosiers), then we will still likely end up something like a 4 seed and probably no lower than a 5.
I wad talking to someone about IU and I just thought "they are a lock for the tourney BUT their great wins are almost negated by some bad losses..." how does IU beat UK and OSU but lose to Iowa? That's got to be frustrating.
Let me make this clear, as of right now, we are the only team in the entire country that has beaten Kentucky...the...only...one. Combine that with our other good wins (vs OSU, vs. Mich, vs. ND (on a neutral court), @NC St.) they are not even close to being negated by our bad losses.
Iowa walloped Michigan at home as well. Don't know why everyone seems to be forgetting this. That was anything but a guaranteed win. We are 5th right now in what is regarded as the most difficult conference in America. We have 20 wins, and while this shouldn't matter it does, we are Indiana.
We would have to lose every game left on our schedule and our first tourney game to not get in and even then we would still probably get in as a 9 seed or a 10 seed.
Last edited by Trader Joe; 02-20-2012 at 10:25 AM.
Fortunately, we tend to play better on a neutral court than a true opposing court. Otherwise, we'd be a lock first-round out in the tourney.
A meh performance over a mediocre mid-major school. 21 wins is nice- at least we are back to respectability and should stay there for the foreseeable future.