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    Simon Chun, via Twitter: Kendrick Perkins. Playing in Boston overrated him, then the trade and the subsequent Celtics "collapse" helped further the legend of a center who has averaged just 6.4 points and 6.1 rebounds a game.

    Jordan Heimer, ClipperBlog: Roy Hibbert. First he was good, then bad, then good enough down the stretch that Pacers president Larry Bird recently called him untradeable. But for a guy who stands 7-foot-2, Hibbert doesn't bring much to the table when his shot isn't falling. He's an average defender and a below-average rebounder -- hardly ideal for a guy being treated like a franchise center.

    Spencer Wellesley Percy, Queen City Hoops: For a guy valued as highly as Kendrick Perkins is, and someone brought in to be OKC's big man of the future, I think this one is easy. Perkins has zero offensive ability and is more interested in complaining to the officials, rather than playing hard and being the physical force everyone wants to give him credit for being.

    Jonathan Santiago, Cowbell Kingdom: Tyson Chandler. He's the perfect complementary piece on a great team, but he'll probably be overpaid when a new CBA is agreed upon because of this offseason's paltry free-agent crop.

    John Converse Townsend, 48 Minutes of Hell: Andrew Bynum. Put down your pitchforks and torches, Lakers fans; there is no need to burn down the Internets. Bynum is one of the better talents in the NBA when healthy. But frankly, he's bench-ridden far too often to be considered an elite talent -- Bynum has missed 160 games over his six-year career.

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    Can't argue with his reasoning but Roy is still "developing" so we think. Is it safe to say that if Roy doesn't make a big impact this year that he will never develop into what we hope?
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    I definitely think the most overrated center in the league is Tyson Chandler.

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    I definitely think the most overrated center in the league is Tyson Chandler.
    You're kidding, right? He's no Dwight Howard, but he's still very good. His contributions just don't show up that much in his stat line.

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    I say that guy is jaded by years of following the hands-down crappiest team in the NBA.
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    I definitely think the most overrated center in the league is Tyson Chandler.
    I don't think you watched him in the finals when making a statement like that.
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    You're kidding, right? He's no Dwight Howard, but he's still very good. His contributions just don't show up that much in his stat line.
    This is the same guy, who last season, was traded for Emeka Okafor's terrible contract. And other than this one healthy year, he's been incredibly injury prone. He's going to end up getting a 4 year/50 million contract or something of the sort, when all in all, he's just a more athletic version of Jeff Foster. His offense is/was coming from Jason Kidd/Chris Paul.

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    I don't think you watched him in the finals when making a statement like that.
    Is he pretty good, yeah. He's a rebounder/defender. But he doesn't deserve all of the praise that he gets.

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    I love Hibbert and don't want us to trade him.. But I would agree that when Hibbert's shot isnt falling, hes practically worthless. Because it really effects his confidence. He is a terrible rebounder for a 7'2 guy and his defense isn't great but i feel like that part may be a part of his game that is underrated and will be improving as well as his conditioning gets better and hopefully his toughness will improve as well as he gets more experienced.

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    Booooooooooooo.

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    Default Re: Roy Hibbert Overrated?

    Sure, Chandler's not a good offensive player, he's injury prone, and might get overpaid, although it remains to be seen what the new CBA will be like.

    But does Dallas win it all if it's Roy instead of Chandler in the middle for them?

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    Sure, Chandler's not a good offensive player, he's injury prone, and might get overpaid, although it remains to be seen what the new CBA will be like.

    But does Dallas win it all if it's Roy instead of Chandler in the middle for them?
    I think so, but that's just me. They still have Haywood backing him up, if they need the interior presence.

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    Sure, Chandler's not a good offensive player, he's injury prone, and might get overpaid, although it remains to be seen what the new CBA will be like.

    But does Dallas win it all if it's Roy instead of Chandler in the middle for them?
    I would put Perkins ahead of Chandler as far as being overrated.

    I think Roy is more untradeable do to him being on his rookie contract. Anything you get in returen is going to cost a lot more and be a marginal upgrade.

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    Yes, Very...
    Why so SERIOUS

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    I usally reject the notion that someone is overrated or underrated, because I do not know how the players are rated.

    Roy is the starting center for a team that won 38 games and lost 4-1 in the first round of the playoffs.

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    If Bird calls him untradeable and means it, that's overrating.
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    He's not mentally with it and I don't know how he can fix that.

    What I noticed when he plays like a dominant center, we can beat anyone and we have.

    We could be a 10+ .500 team if he played well consistently.

    Maybe Vogel, who really wants to make Roy the biggest piece to the offense, it'll make him consistent and better and make us better.

    What does that ****er Jordan Heimer from ClipperBlog know? Idiot probably doesn't even watch the Pacers and just looks at stats because he definitely brings a lot to the table.

    He's still young and getting better. He had a terrible coach in his career in O'Brien and now he's the center piece in Vogel's offense.
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    Hibbert's defense has gotten much better. His offense has improved. everything about him has improved.

    So what is there to worry about, that his improvement stops completely next year? He's still not a bad center if he were stuck where he's at, he'd just be disappointing.
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    I've honestly never heard Bird say a player on our team is untradeable. I've heard him say stuff like NO ONE is untradeable.

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    I usally reject the notion that someone is overrated or underrated, because I do not know how the players are rated.

    Roy is the starting center for a team that won 38 games and lost 4-1 in the first round of the playoffs.
    You should add that he was, arguably, that team's worst player in the playoffs.
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    You should add that he was, arguably, that team's worst player in the playoffs.
    After Dunleavy

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    I love Hibbert and don't want us to trade him.. But I would agree that when Hibbert's shot isnt falling, hes practically worthless. Because it really effects his confidence. He is a terrible rebounder for a 7'2 guy and his defense isn't great but i feel like that part may be a part of his game that is underrated and will be improving as well as his conditioning gets better and hopefully his toughness will improve as well as he gets more experienced.
    He may be 7'2", but that doesn't mean he's as nimble as a lot of the 6'10" guys are. It's very rare and special to be that tall AND still be able to move at a decent speed (think Hakeem). It's not that surprising that he's not going to be chasing down rebounds. If he's in range, his height and length can go a long way, but he'll never rebound the way a guy like Jeff Foster or Tyler Hansbrough has/does.

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    Ugh...off season...

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    I don't think you watched him in the finals when making a statement like that.
    No way they win the finals without him. They had a C mismatch in their favor. They had to exploit it to win and TC succeeded in doing so in his physical, blue collar, hustle way.
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    Not as overrated as Magnum Rolle, OJ Mayo and Mike Suckleavy "team defense"

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    Sure, Chandler's not a good offensive player, he's injury prone, and might get overpaid, although it remains to be seen what the new CBA will be like.

    But does Dallas win it all if it's Roy instead of Chandler in the middle for them?
    I say no b/c who the hell would have rebounded, scrapped, and otherwise provided a physical presence inside? Roy might have been able to contribute some scoring, but Dallas only needs that peripherally from that position. Roy doesn't have the strength/athletic ability to put with his height that TC used to his advantage to swing the inside toughness/rebounding to the Mavs.
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    Not as overrated as Magnum Rolle, OJ Mayo and Mike Suckleavy "team defense"
    Really?

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