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    So now that the lockout seems to be coming to a end, who do you think the Colts should target out of the undrafted FA class. I know that the Colts are typically big in this market.
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    I hope Darren Evans gets picked up by a good team. It is a shame how his college career had to turn out at the end due to injures.

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    I hope Darren Evans gets picked up by a good team. It is a shame how his college career had to turn out at the end due to injures.
    Yup, thought Colts would give him a chance... still might but when they grabbed Carter I think that really hurt the chances of that happening...
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    I am not sure myself, but Polian seems to pick up a few guys each year that provide some sort of an impact on the season. I am personally hoping he gets a large DT and an athletic as all get out LB.

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    So now that the lockout seems to be coming to a end, who do you think the Colts should target out of the undrafted FA class. I know that the Colts are typically big in this market.
    Depending on who they resign they need to go try hard to get:
    DeAndre McDaniel - SS Clemson
    Cedric Thornton - DT
    Jeremiha Hunter - OLB Iowa

    I have a feeling that we resign Addai, Vinny, Charlie Johnson, and they let go of Session, Muir and possibly Bullit even though I think the Colts try hard to resign him.

    This Vet FA class is going to get overpaid due to teams that have to spend to meet the minimum team salary limit. THe Colts are going to lose some pretty good players and hopefully they can plug the holes with cheap options once again.

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    Yeah SS is going to be a position that we have to lock up... It would be interesting to see if we sign Addai back... with the supply of RB's that we have and seeing that the Colts going off last years salary are already over the new proposed salary cap it will be interesting to see what we do.

    We should know by tomorrow, that is when they are proposing to allow for the singing of undrafted free agents I believe.

    I am ready for some football
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    A couple cool people that I would be interested in...

    S Will Hill... very high recruit coming out of hs... tons of potential, and I believe the veteran leadership on the Colts could help him out.

    Also I like Ian Williams as a potential DT sub

    WR Terrence Tolliver would be an interesting prospect at wr.

    CB Kendric Burney would probably fit in our defensive scheme.. especially if we don't bring back Hayden..

    and I have heard good things about this Joe Legeged guy at safety...

    Here is a list of some of the top group from an espn analyst...

    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...ed-free-agents
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    http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story...ed-free-agents

    Undrafted free agents were among the biggest casualties of the NFL lockout, unable to have contact with teams or sign contracts while owners and players worked out a new collective bargaining agreement.

    However, with free agency set to begin this week, that state of limbo is ending and undrafted players will finally know where they're headed.

    Here's a look at the top 40 undrafted free agents in Scouts Inc.'s 2011 prospect rankings and what they have to offer the teams that will come calling.

    1. Joe Lefeged, S, Rutgers (Scouts Inc. grade: 73)
    Lefeged possesses a nice combination of size and straight-line speed, and the range, discipline and toughness to contribute as a sub-package safety and special-teams player early in his career. He also has the skills and potential to develop into a starting strong safety in time.


    2. Kendric Burney, CB, North Carolina (68)
    Burney's lack of size (5-foot-9⅜, 186 pounds) and top-end speed (4.74 in the 40) are likely the reasons he went undrafted, but he has the instincts, short-area quickness and ball skills to add depth and eventually compete for a starting job in a Cover 2-heavy scheme.

    3. Cedric Thornton, DT, Southern Arkansas (64)
    Thornton has enough size and short-area power to develop into an adequate reserve as a one-gap lineman for a base 4-3 team.

    4. Darvin Adams, WR, Auburn (62)
    Adams lacks top-end speed and suddenness in his routes, but he is a smooth athlete with the body control, hands and toughness to develop into a No. 4 or No. 5 receiver at the next level.

    5. DeAndre McDaniel, S, Clemson (61)
    McDaniel has limitations in terms of fluidity and top-end speed, but he has the size, strength and instincts to become an effective in-the-box safety and also flashes above-average ball skills.

    6. Jeron Johnson, S, Boise State (60)
    Johnson is still developing in terms of instincts and discipline in coverage, but has the quickness and agility to contribute in sub packages.

    7. Ian Williams, DT, Notre Dame (58)
    Williams is a limited athlete with a squatty build but it provides him with natural leverage to anchor in the middle and bolster a team's interior run defense. He also has the versatility to line up in three- or four-man fronts.

    8. Mark Herzlich, OLB, Boston College (58)
    We ranked Herzlich as the No. 1 overall defensive prospect in the nation following the 2008 season, but he missed the entire 2009 season while battling cancer and was not the same player when he returned to the field in 2010. He lacks elite athleticism, especially when asked to play in space, but Herzlich has the frame, smarts, toughness and intangibles to develop into an effective strongside linebacker if he returns to 100 percent.

    9. Derrick Locke, RB, Kentucky (58)
    Locke's size (5-8, 188) and lack of power limit his potential as an every-down player, but he has the instincts, lateral quickness, body control, hands and toughness to make an impact as a third-down back and special-teams contributor.

    10. Nick Bellore, ILB, Central Michigan (56)
    Bellore is limited in coverage and as a pass-rusher but has the size, smarts, motor and toughness to develop into an effective two-down run-stopper and contributor on special teams.

    11. Zach Hurd, G, Connecticut (56)
    Hurd has good size (6-6, 316), strength and long arms, plus the natural ability and toughness to develop into a quality backup guard in the NFL.

    12. Ricardo Lockette, WR, Fort Valley State (56)
    Lockette is a well-traveled, unpolished prospect with limited football experience, but he has the size and raw talent to become a solid fourth or fifth receiver, given enough time and coaching.

    13. Scott Lutrus, OLB, Connecticut (54)
    Lutrus comes with durability concerns but he showed well at the NFL combine and has the speed, toughness and smarts to provide depth on the strong side for a base 4-3 defense.

    14. Dane Sanzenbacher, WR, Ohio State (54)
    Sanzenbacher is undersized (5-11⅜, 182) and lacks the speed to threaten vertically in the NFL, but he shows the quickness, hand-eye coordination and competitiveness to contribute as a sub-package slot receiver and help on special teams.

    15. Orie Lemon, ILB, Oklahoma State (52)
    Lemon has a good combination of size (6-0, 242), strength and closing burst to fit nicely as a two-down strongside inside linebacker for a 3-4 defense.

    16. Willie Smith, OT, East Carolina (52)
    Smith has the frame (6-5⅜, 310) and athletic ability to develop into an effective reserve tackle, though he needs to get stronger and improve his technique under the direction of NFL coaching.

    17. Will Hill, S, Florida (51)
    Hill has upside because of his above-average athleticism, though his instincts still need developing and character concerns probably helped cause him to go undrafted.

    18. Terrence Toliver, WR, LSU (51)
    Toliver's size (6-3, 212), deceiving top-end speed, body control and good hands give him the potential to develop into a No. 3 or 4 receiver at the next level, though he is a bit tight in his routes.

    19. David Sims, S, Iowa State (49)
    Sims is undersized and older than most prospects, but he shows good instincts, adequate range and coverage, and a willingness to mix it up against the run and on special teams.

    20. Brandon Bair, DT, Oregon (49)
    Bair lacks the anchor to line up inside, but his frame (6-5⅞, 276) gives him the length to contribute as a five-technique for a 3-4 team if he improves his fundamentals.

    21. Kai Forbath, PK, UCLA (49)
    Forbath has the leg strength and accuracy to eventually become an effective place-kicker at the next level.

    22. Ryan Winterswyk, DE, Boise State (48)
    Winterswyk is disciplined and plays with a consistent motor, and while he is a limited athlete he would fit well as a reserve five-technique in a 3-4 scheme.

    23. Ryan Jones, CB, NW Missouri State (47)
    Jones has above-average speed and athleticism and he plays the ball well in coverage, though his tackling in run support needs some work.

    24. Martin Parker, DT, Richmond (47)
    Parker has the size (6-2⅛, 303), athleticism and skill sets to develop into an adequate reserve three-technique for a team that runs a 4-3 defense.

    25. Zack Pianalto, TE, North Carolina (47)
    Durability issues kept Pianalto from being drafted, but he has good hands and the ability to get open against zone coverage, and is an effective downfield blocker.

    26. Weslye Saunders, TE, South Carolina (46)
    Major character concerns scared teams off on draft weekend, but Saunders has the frame (6-5⅛, 270), ball skills and enough speed to become a solid NFL tight end if he reaches his full potential.

    27. Deunta Williams, S, North Carolina (45)
    Williams' top-end speed is above-average and he moves well laterally, and he is at his best in zone coverage. He flashes good ball skills as well but lacks size/power and is timid at times in run support.

    28. Garrett Chisolm, G, South Carolina (44)
    Chisolm comes with durability concerns and needs developing in terms of footwork, but he is a high-character player with the frame and power to provide depth at guard.

    29. Ryan Donahue, P, Iowa (44)
    Donahue shows the leg strength and directional punting ability to become an effective punter in the NFL.

    30. Graig Cooper, RB, Miami (Fla.) (44)
    A major knee injury in 2009 robbed Cooper of explosiveness and lateral quickness, but he offers enough vision, short-area quickness and third-down ability to become a change-of-pace back at the next level.

    31. Charlie Gantt, TE, Michigan State (44)
    Gantt is not elite in any area but has the potential and overall skill set to develop into an effective No. 2 tight end at the next level.

    32. Armon Binns, WR, Cincinnati (43)
    Binns is limited as a route-runner and lacks explosiveness, but he shows good hands and body control to contribute as he develops.

    33. Alex Linnenkohl, C, Oregon State (42)
    Linnenkohl's athleticism is limited but he is a hard worker who flashes instincts as a pass blocker and could provide depth along the interior with proper development.

    34. Mario Addison, OLB, Troy (42)
    Addison plays with good pad level and appears strong enough to set the edge against the run, and he shows active hands as a pass-rusher.

    35. Joe Torchia, TE, Virginia (42)
    Torchia runs sharp routes, clearly works hard on the little things, shows good hands and runs hard after the catch.

    36. Terrance Turner, WR, Indiana (42)
    Turner runs good routes and has above-average ball skills, and if he can contribute on special teams he could become a solid No. 4 or 5 receiver in the NFL.

    37. Ricky Henry, G, Nebraska (41)
    Henry is a blue-collar player with excellent toughness and a mean streak, and he flashes above-average upper-body strength in the run game.

    38. Tori Gurley, WR, South Carolina (41)
    Gurley's size (6-4⅛, 216) and athleticism give him a chance to develop into a strong fourth or fifth receiver for an NFL team.

    39. Pierre Allen, DE, Nebraska (40)
    Allen has the size (6-3, 273), upper-body strength and long arms to provide depth and possibly develop into a starting left end in a four-man front.

    40. Mike Holmes, S, Syracuse (40)
    Holmes is a tough, versatile defensive back who played both corner and safety in college, and his ability to contribute as a kick and punt returner could also be an asset for an NFL team.
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    To keep up with pick-ups:

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-...ed-free-agents

    They are coming fast.

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    Colts pick ups so far:

    Joe Lefged (S, Rutgers)
    Jake Kirkpatrick (C, TCU)

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    To keep up with pick-ups:

    http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011-...ed-free-agents

    They are coming fast.
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    Colts pick ups so far:

    Joe Lefged (S, Rutgers)
    Jake Kirkpatrick (C, TCU)
    It is moving fast. 15 minutes later there are 2 more.

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    Sorry, I knew you'd object. The signings in general are coming fast, not the Colts in particular, smartbutt.

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    Sorry, I knew you'd object. The signings in general are coming fast, not the Colts in particular, smartbutt.
    Where was I being smart?

    15 minutes after you posted the Colts have 2 signings, there are 2 more signings. That's fast! Lol

    Just sucks its on a Pats site.

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    Oh ok, well I didn't think you actually meant it was fast haha.

    I'm not sure why they are so quick, but I don't mind the Pats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PurduePacer View Post
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    Colts pick ups so far:

    Joe Lefged (S, Rutgers)
    Jake Kirkpatrick (C, TCU)
    I wanted the bears to pick him up

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    Default Re: undrafted FA's - Lockout winding down...

    Some interesting signs...

    Pat Delvin goes to the cards..

    Nic Grigsby to the Dolphins

    Kendrick Burney to the Panthers

    Taylor Potts to the Rams

    Ben Chapell to the Redskins

    Deandre Mcdanials to the Saints

    Weslye Saunders to the Steelers

    I will say that I wish we would have got Noel Divine... Good luck with the falcons though..
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    Joe Lefeged and Jake Kirkpatrick are both REALLY good pickups. Don't know anything about the other two though.
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    Joe Lefeged and Jake Kirkpatrick are both REALLY good pickups. Don't know anything about the other two though.
    DeAndre McDaniel should of been the Colts target IMO he is a great safety prospect

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    I'm a Purdue guy so I like our current backup.... but we just signed Scott Tolzien and I have a feeling that he will give him a run for his money... May the games begin..
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    Just a little research I did...

    Mike McNeill sounds like a Colts TE... runs a 4.67, 33.5 vertical, 6'4" receiving TE and not much of a blocker, going to be interesting to see what this guy does and if he can make the team.

    http://multimedia.foxsports.com/m/vi...htm?r_src=ramp

    Scott Tolzien
    Good guy that knows how to win, biggest problem that I have seen is he doesn't have a strong arm... his accuracy should help right now with that but with the speed of the defenses in the NFL his arm strength will be the determining factor in if he is able to stay or not I believe.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2oSxblrlQU

    Adrian Moton

    Sounds like the typical Colts LB... he runs 4.55/4.60 and is pretty good in coverage... not really good at taking on blocks... with that being said he should have a chance in our defense.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmSYUfVHp9o

    Chris Colasanti

    Not really a fast guy 4.82 for a ILB... but he got 102 tackles last year... one thing that stands out about this guy to me is that he benched 225 28 times... I like that....

    Couldn't find any video of him playing but this link has a pretty cool video attached to it though, lol

    http://www.ydr.com/psu/ci_16298885?source=rss



    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3eXg...eature=related
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    Interesting the two transfers

    Emmanuel Moody to the bills

    Jeremiah Masoli to the 49ers

    Darren Evans... Welcome home man... Go Colts

    I am thinking Addai will be gone.... lol no way am I saying that Darren is replacing him though... but we have added 2 RB's, still can sign Hart, Devin Moore, Donald Brown, and Rhodes who did a good job last year.... and with multiple RB offenses now and Addai's high price tag along with having to sign Manning I think it is going to be over for Addai's time as a Colt...
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    I'm a Purdue guy so I like our current backup.... but we just signed Scott Tolzien and I have a feeling that he will give him a run for his money... May the games begin..
    Keith Smith is going to Detroit, and Kyle Adams to Chicago.

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    Colts have 3 local highschool Rb's on the Roster

    D Evans Warren Central

    C Spann North Central

    D Moore Ritter

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    Interesting the two transfers

    Emmanuel Moody to the bills

    Jeremiah Masoli to the 49ers

    Darren Evans... Welcome home man... Go Colts

    I am thinking Addai will be gone.... lol no way am I saying that Darren is replacing him though... but we have added 2 RB's, still can sign Hart, Devin Moore, Donald Brown, and Rhodes who did a good job last year.... and with multiple RB offenses now and Addai's high price tag along with having to sign Manning I think it is going to be over for Addai's time as a Colt...
    If Darren gets his knee right he has the tools to be a 3 down back. But his knee is ****ed. I hope it gets better but if it wasn't for injury's he would of been drafted in the first couple rounds. He was clearly better than Ryan Williams until his injury.


    on other news Dane Sanzenbacher took less to play in Martz system he should be playing right away perfect fit for the bears. Now we just need a legit #1 receiver and 4 OL men and some depth at corner and LB.
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    Yup, a couple more DB's and I am sure we will get another WR sometime soon pretty sure this WR David Gilreath is most likely just here for special teams help...
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