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    Indiana Pacers president Larry Bird has spent the past couple of years talking about the need to acquire veteran players to speed the team's development.

    Bird did that Thursday night, and he accomplished it while also bringing a local standout back home.


    The Pacers acquired George Hill, a Broad Ripple High School graduate and former IUPUI star, from the San Antonio Spurs for the NBA draft's No. 15 pick -- San Diego State's Kawhi Leonard -- and the No. 42 pick -- big man Davis Bertans.

    The Pacers also gave up the rights to forward Erazem Lorbek, who has been playing in Europe since 2005.

    The Pacers used part of the $3.5 million trade exception they acquired in the Troy Murphy deal with the New Jersey Nets last summer to get Hill.

    "Very emotional moment right now," Hill wrote on his Twitter page. "But just want to thank everyone for all the support. (San Antonio) has been great to me and will never forget it."

    Keeping Leonard, 19, meant the Pacers likely would have had to wait at least a year before he became a regular contributor. He was projected to be a top-10 pick.

    The Pacers, who made the playoffs for the first time since 2006, have spent the past couple of seasons developing players.

    Hill, 25, could have an immediate impact with the Pacers.

    He wasn't heavily recruited out of high school but went on to become a star at IUPUI and was drafted by the Spurs with the No. 26 pick in the 2008 draft.

    "I think it's great for the Pacers, great for George, and ultimately great for IUPUI," IUPUI coach Todd Howard said in a statement released by the school. "He's been an ambassador for our program and it's great that he's going to have the opportunity to continue to showcase his skills in his hometown."

    Spurs coach Gregg Popovich quickly became a fan of Hill for his work ethic and versatility.

    "We can put him at (shooting guard) because he can guard those guys, runs the floor well and he's a good rebounder," Popovich said during a 2009 interview.

    Bird has had his eye on Hill since he entered the NBA. Bird talked to the Spurs about Hill during the summer of 2010 before the Pacers traded for Darren Collison.

    "We're very pleased to get a player that has NBA experience," Bird said.

    "We've been after him for a while. San Antonio always told us they didn't have interest in trading him."

    Hill played an important role coming off the bench and starting for the injured Tony Parker at times during his three years with the Spurs.

    Hill averaged 11.6 points and 2.5 assists last season for the Spurs.

    The addition of Hill will make for interesting competition between him and Collison for the starting point guard position.


    Collison started all 79 games he appeared in last season and was never threatened after T.J. Ford was demoted by former coach Jim O'Brien.

    Hill averaged 14.8 points and 3.6 assists in 55 starts, compared to 8.4 points in 176 games off the bench in his career.

    Hill, like Lance Stephenson, can play both guard positions.

    "It'll be good competition, which will only make us better," Collison said during a phone interview. "He's a very good defender and he can play both guard spots."

    Hill's defensive ability means the Pacers no longer have to assign Paul George to defend point guards.


    Hill's addition likely signals the end of A.J. Price's time with the Pacers.


    The Pacers will have to improve their frontcourt depth once free agency starts after an expected NBA lockout.

    Big men Jeff Foster, Josh McRoberts and Solomon Jones are unrestricted free agents.
    The part about how Hill will allow George to not guard pg's excites me. I mean it was just a few years ago Hill really flustered Kobe Bryant in the playoffs. Also now DC doesn't have to be a liability if he is not scoring and playing poor defense now we have a great backup.

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    Hill would certainly have changed some things for us in that Chicago series. Good guy to have in a decade that will feature lots of Derrick Rose.

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    Imagine if we were able to have Hill on Rose and George on Korver/Bogans in the playoffs. I don't think those guys would have hit as many threes.

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    Speaking of Hill as an Indiana native player, I wonder if it'll have any effect on the attendance next year..? I'll be waiting for a report by Scot Pollard

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    I don't see Hill as challenging DC for the starting point guard job. Frankly we don't have enough playmaking in the starting lineup as it is.

    I expect Hill to be the main scorer off the bench. In fact I'm predicting a breakout year for him scoring wise, and perhaps he'll be the closer that we've been looking for. I could see finishing games in place of either Collison or Paulie G, depending on who's playing better.

    In the longer term, he could be a good pairing with Lance. Lance has PG skills in a SG body, with Hill it's the other way around.

    I think Rush is gone for sure. Not so sure about Price though. IMO Hill's PG skills are still a work in progress.

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    NY Times article on George Hill

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    George Hill and the Green Light
    By ROB MAHONEY
    April 5, 2011, 4:50 PM

    Within 15 seconds of entering Sunday’s game against the Phoenix Suns, George Hill had made his first basket. After 35 seconds more, he had made another. Minutes later, Hill was in the midst of a full-blown explosion, as he dropped a pair of pull-up three-pointers, hit a short jumper, and then successfully executed the patented, controversial “rip move” to earn three foul shots and pull off an 11-2 run all on his own. Toss in an extra basket and a technical free throw, and Hill concluded his six-minute stint in the first quarter with 16 points and spotless shooting from the field and the free throw line.

    That kind of burst is exactly what makes Hill fascinating to some, confounding to others, and occasionally infuriating to those who understand and appreciate his scoring capability. Such a showcase has simply been uncharacteristic of Hill’s N.B.A. career, though hardly because of a lack of talent; Hill has come to embody San Antonio role player deference, and while that respect for the Spurs’ pecking order is surely appreciated, Hill is considerably more gifted than the specialists who typically fill minutes alongside Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker.

    Hill has the potential for much more than players in the Roger Mason Jr.-Brent Barry-Michael Finley mold. He needn’t confine himself to the perimeter, nor attempt to be wholly accommodating to his high-profile teammates. More than any other contemporary Spur role player, Hill is in a position to force his own way; not only is he talented enough to provide another dimension to San Antonio’s offense, but Hill has also been given Gregg Popovich’s blessing (via Jesse Blanchard of 48 Minutes of Hell):

    “We’re trying to get him to the point where every time he steps on the floor he knows that he’s a heck of a player, that we want him to be aggressive and that he has the green light to do that and be a scorer,” Popovich said. “It’s just a process. He’s a young guy and a respectful guy who defers and wants everybody to be happy. In an ironic sort of way, we’re trying to get him to be more selfish.”

    Popovich believes in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before him. It has eluded Hill, but that’s no matter—tomorrow he will run faster, stretch out his arms farther…And then one fine morning—

    When playing with the Spurs’ stars, Hill plays within his conception of a particular role. He largely sinks into the corner to await spot-up opportunities, making occasional plays and hitting shots when the ball swings his way. That’s not enough, at least in Popovich’s estimation. Clearly, San Antonio -– one of the top teams in the league this season on offense -– doesn’t need Hill to be an amazingly productive scorer to find offensive success, but why shouldn’t the Spurs strive for the actualization of an underused weapon? Any burden that Hill can lift from Duncan, Ginobili, and Parker is unquestionably helpful to the team’s overall performance, and adding a more dynamic Hill would only make the Spurs’ offense flow even more freely.

    Regardless of the role that Hill believes he is playing for the Spurs, he can’t elect to mute his own scoring potential. Obviously there’s room for discretion, but universal deference isn’t helping his team produce nor is it aiding in his development as a player. Shooting from the corner isn’t the be-all, end-all for a player of Hill’s caliber. It’s a valuable skill, sure, but spacing the floor is no reason to disregard intuitive scoring instinct. Hill is a natural, an athlete, and has a silky jumper on which to rely. He won’t take the world by storm if he chooses to be more assertive, but Hill could very well make one of the league’s top offenses even better with his potential to score both inside and out, all while distracting opponents from his ever-potent star teammates.

    For that to happen, Hill needs to step out of his trained role with San Antonio and back into himself. His maturation with the Spurs provides an invaluable infrastructure in which to access his greatest talents, but it’s still Hill’s original allure as a scorer that makes him so intriguing today (via 48MoH):

    “[Popovich] needs me to be the Indiana George, the Indiana George that played in high school and college,” Hill said. “In high school and college I’d have 25-point halves, so I should try to relive the dream I guess.”

    Hill is right in a sense, but Popovich simply desires the best of both worlds: a self-aware scorer who fully understands his role within the team concept and when those limitations no longer apply to him. It’s a change in approach that only Hill can make. So he beats on, boat against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past.
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    Tell me the last ripped line in the Times article isn't for real.

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    Speaking of Hill as an Indiana native player, I wonder if it'll have any effect on the attendance next year..? I'll be waiting for a report by Scot Pollard
    No, I'm sure most casual fans won't remember who Hill even is. I guess this could start the beginning of the grassroots campaign to get all Indiana players back to Indiana. Need to get JJ, Gordon, Oden, etc.
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    Tell me the last ripped line in the Times article isn't for real.
    I just read that.
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    The part about how Hill will allow George to not guard pg's excites me. I mean it was just a few years ago Hill really flustered Kobe Bryant in the playoffs.[/QUOTE]

    Given Hill guards ones and twos effectively, we can not only have George focus on wings, but if the need arises, for example; we can throw George on Rose and have Hill closing out on Korver.

    So much flexibility with this addition.

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    Will someone please tell me what IUPUI is?
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    Will someone please tell me what IUPUI is?
    Indiana University Purdue University at Indianapolis
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    Will someone please tell me what IUPUI is?
    Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. Enrollment 30,000+. Third largest public university in the state after IU and Purdue.

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    Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis. Enrollment 30,000+. Third largest public university in the state after IU and Purdue.
    Thanks. Never freaking heard of it.
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    George Hill will be on 1070 The Fan with Grady and Big Joe sometime during the 11 o'clock hour.
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    Article out of San Antonio

    http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursna...-still-a-spur/

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    The fact Hill was traded to the team that plays in his hometown was no consolation. One of the most affable of Spurs was not up to speaking to the reporters he always accommodated, win or lose, hero or goat.

    “He is real emotional right now,” said his agent, Michael Whitacre.

    Trading Hill wasn’t easy for Gregg Popovich and Buford, either. The GM called Thursday “one of the most difficult nights in Spurs history since we’ve been here.”

    Early in Hill’s second season, Popovich declared Hill his new favorite player, a sobriquet he previously had applied to Rasho Nesterovic. This was partially facetious, but Popovich sincerely appreciated Hill’s grit and willingness to work.

    Popovich had declared the 2009 playoffs were “not for George,” then gave him significant playing time when Hill showed fortitude while some teammates shrank under pressure.

    Hill developed so much in his second season, some called Parker expendable. So when rumors began circulating this week that the Spurs were talking to teams about moving Hill, player personnel experts for other teams wondered why.

    “I thought Pop loved that kid,” one GM said, perplexed by the trade talk.

    Popovich and Buford didn’t like Hill any less. Trading him hurt, and the deal wasn’t about getting rid of him. Rather, it was about adding Leonard, and the fact they traded up in the draft for the first time in the Popovich era should be a clue about their opinion of a player who had better become Popovich’s favorite sooner than later.

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    so who is going to start? I think they should battle it out, I'm not sure if one is that much better than the other but they are both good. Does this mean Lance is playing the 2?

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    so who is going to start? I think they should battle it out, I'm not sure if one is that much better than the other but they are both good. Does this mean Lance is playing the 2?
    From what I can tell, GH is a 2 with solid ball handling skills. So, DC + GH is more likely.

    Unless Lance really shows something, its hard to believe he's going to get very many minutes, with PG, DC and GH splitting 96 minutes/game. Even if PG takes 5-10 min/game from DG, you're talking 106 minutes/game, 35 Min/player. That leaves little to go around in the backcourt, except maybe garbage time.

    Obviously, if Lance dominates in practice, gets his head on straight, there may be more minutes in there. Whole lotta ifs for a guy who is largely a question mark.

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    I think Collison will be traded before Price.

    Collison will have more trade value than Price. I think we should package up Collison and Rush (theyre both pretty young still) and get a quality scorer off the bench
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    They're available now at @TheFieldhouse and coming soon on PacersGear.com RT @PatrickRSebanc When will George Hill jerseys be available?!

    just some news on george hill jerseys... im gonna go buy one..

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    George Hill will be on 1070 The Fan with Grady and Big Joe sometime during the 11 o'clock hour.
    I just turned it on. They're playing a Paul George interview from last night's draft party. Just said "Danny's known as being a lazy dude, but this summer he's working".

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    I don't see Hill as challenging DC for the starting point guard job. Frankly we don't have enough playmaking in the starting lineup as it is.

    I expect Hill to be the main scorer off the bench. In fact I'm predicting a breakout year for him scoring wise, and perhaps he'll be the closer that we've been looking for. I could see finishing games in place of either Collison or Paulie G, depending on who's playing better.

    In the longer term, he could be a good pairing with Lance. Lance has PG skills in a SG body, with Hill it's the other way around.

    I think Rush is gone for sure. Not so sure about Price though. IMO Hill's PG skills are still a work in progress.
    Honestly, it could go either way.

    If Bird thinks the Pacers still need a "true" PG at least as a 3rd string player, he'll keep Price and trade BRush. That would likely keep Lance Stephenson in the developmental stage for another year. But, if he thinks Lance can fill the backup PG role and wishes to unleash George Hill at SG and let Paul George back him up, he'll let Price and BRush walk. I think Bird will go with the latter.

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    I just turned it on. They're playing a Paul George interview from last night's draft party. Just said "Danny's known as being a lazy dude, but this summer he's working".
    I was just coming back to post that very thing!

    "He's lookin' real good. Danny is typically known for being a lazy dude, but this summer, man, he's gettin' after it. So that's huge for this team, for Danny to take this summer so serious. A guy who has that game already, to try to take his game to another level is huge for the team"
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    I think Collison will be traded before Price.

    Collison will have more trade value than Price. I think we should package up Collison and Rush (theyre both pretty young still) and get a quality scorer off the bench
    WHAT? Are you crazy, man?! No way will Bird trade Collison. Bird may have sought Hill over Collison before and went with Collison because he couldn't pry Hill from the Spurs, but Collison was also someone Bird wanted badly. I seriously doubt he'd trade him after just acquiring him last year and seeing what the kid brings to the hardwood.

    Collison has nothing but an upside to his game; very few flaws. Outstanding potential. Odds are totally against a Collison trade. Price and BRush, yes. Collison, no way!

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