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    Burks is a 2, and Brooks is turnover prone, I think 3rd highest in the draft class from what I heard..

    As far as athleticms from the NBA draft combine Brooks was 1st in lane agility, first in vertical and 2nd in Max vertical...

    People please stop calling Burks more athletic than Brooks... either it is close or Brooks is beasting him going from these numbers

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    Sorry numbers were of 2nd hightest vert, 6th max vert, and 7th in lane agility, 6th in 3/4 court... all of those numbers beat Burks
    I think its close but keep in mind that there is a considerable gap between the 2 in age. Which one has more potential? I would say Burks is over Brooks at this point.

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    Burks is a 2, and Brooks is turnover prone, I think 3rd highest in the draft class from what I heard..

    As far as athleticms from the NBA draft combine Brooks was 1st in lane agility, first in vertical and 2nd in Max vertical...

    People please stop calling Burks more athletic than Brooks... either it is close or Brooks is beasting him going from these numbers

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    Sorry numbers were of 2nd hightest vert, 6th max vert, and 7th in lane agility, 6th in 3/4 court... all of those numbers beat Burks
    From what I seen of Brooks, he's our pick and will probably be available at 15. Brooks has way too many offensive moves (not sure about his defense) to past on him. After watching the videos, I was sold on Brooks the same way I was sold on Paul George. Brooks may very well be turnover prone, because he seems to be very ball-dominant.

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    The next Dwayne Wade or the next Brandon Roy... damn so hard to choose!

    Who was that guy who was said to be the next Alonzo Mourning. Let's get him! Or that guy who is supposed to be the next Dale Davis! Oh and also the next Kobe Bryant, I think that was Brooks? I think there is a guy who is supposed to be the next Reggie Miller too, but when we can take the next Dwayne Wade or Kobe, why take the next Reggie? Maybe in the 2nd round...

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    Roy's vs. Burk's production as sophomores:



    Roy's vs. Burk's measurements (keep in mind Roy was two years older then than Burks is now):


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    I think its close but keep in mind that there is a considerable gap between the 2 in age. Which one has more potential? I would say Burks is over Brooks at this point.
    Age really don't matter...it's all about the skills and their ability to learn more. I think Burks has to learn more skills. He seems too one-dimensional to me right now.

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    Brandon Roy had mediocre measurements. What made him special was his handle and his dexterity. He has maybe the best off-hand of any guard in the NBA, which made his movements impossible to predict.

    In terms of guards in this draft that have that kind of attribute, there are none. The most dexterous guards available are probably Irving and Fredette.
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    Age really don't matter...it's all about the skills and their ability to learn more. I think Burks has to learn more skills. He seems too one-dimensional to me right now.
    I think we would all say that most 19 year old kids in the NBA draft need to learn more skills. Age does determine the ceiling of a player and I would bet Burks is a better NBA player at the end of the day than Brooks.

    IMO your comparing apples to oranges. Your saying age doesn't matter but how is someone suppose to learn more without time to do it? Brooks has had more time to do it and both can score at almost the same percentage just in different ways.

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    Roy's vs. Burk's production as sophomores:



    Roy's vs. Burk's measurements (keep in mind Roy was two years older then than Burks is now):

    Could you put up the stats for the year that they got drafted...

    One thing that is never really taken into consideration on these comparisons is the way that they are used on their teams.

    Remember they had Nate Robinson at the time...

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    I think we would all say that most 19 year old kids in the NBA draft need to learn more skills. Age does determine the ceiling of a player and I would bet Burks is a better NBA player at the end of the day than Brooks.

    IMO your comparing apples to oranges. Your saying age doesn't matter but how is someone suppose to learn more without time to do it? Brooks has had more time to do it and both can score at almost the same percentage just in different ways.
    I will have to look up the stats, but younger players are not lasting any longer in the NBA than the older players.

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    I will have to look up the stats, but younger players are not lasting any longer in the NBA than the older players.
    Well good luck with that...

    Let me ask you this, Would you draft Brooks 15th overall based on his college sophmore abilities. You wouldn't even have known who he was but you would have known Burks based on his abilities. Thats an apples to apples comparison.

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    Well good luck with that...

    Let me ask you this, Would you draft Brooks 15th overall based on his college sophmore abilities. You wouldn't even have known who he was but you would have known Burks based on his abilities. Thats an apples to apples comparison.
    Like I said one thing is how players are used on their teams, another thing is just because a player isn't as good as a sophomore doesn't mean he won't turn out to be a better player...

    I feel looking at stats alone can be one of the most misleading thing as far as comparing players... depending on systems, teamates, coaches and many other things stats typically don't get close to telling the whole story...

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    Well good luck with that...

    Let me ask you this, Would you draft Brooks 15th overall based on his college sophmore abilities. You wouldn't even have known who he was but you would have known Burks based on his abilities. Thats an apples to apples comparison.
    Actually, I didn't have a clue about either one of them until I watched the videos and read up on them. Based on that information, Brooks is the better pick to me.

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    Default Re: Alec Burks - The Next Brandon Roy

    He doesn't look 6'6 in those clips.

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    Let's be honest with ourselves, who had heard of Alec Burks before the draft process started? Then again, who had heard of Paul George before we drafted him? Can't wait for the draft. If we take Burks, Jimmer, or Brooks I think all Pacer fans can be pleased.

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    He doesn't look 6'6 in those clips.
    I thought the same thing which was why I made the original mistake of thinking that he was a PG.

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    He measured out at 6'6" in shoes, so unless there's a conspiracy or someone goofed, 6'6" he is. He looks like a future star to me.

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    I will have to look up the stats, but younger players are not lasting any longer in the NBA than the older players.
    I seen a special on ESPN that suggested the players who leave early dont play any longer than the ones who go to school. The point was each player has so much mileage available and the players who leave younger burn it up faster - KG, Kobe should not be slowing down at their age but have considerable wear on their knees.
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